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Posted by steven-neil on Oct-25-2007 05:32:

quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
No bro, you don't get it. Supply and demand isn't simply a numbers thing. It's the graphical representation of REAL life. It's just an easy way to show what's occurring.

NYC (BK and other boroughs included) has a greater supply of housing. It also has a greater demand. Not surprisingly, it also has higher prices. That shows that the high prices of NYC(including outer boroughs) housing compared to NJ housing isn't a result of low supply. So it means something else is going into it; That's where preference comes into play. And yes, generally speaking, supply, demand, and prices are the best indications of which place is better. (of course this is generally speaking) Seriously bro, read some books.


Don't waste your breath James...He knows less about housing markets than he does about edm...


Posted by jerZ07002 on Oct-25-2007 05:35:

quote:
Originally posted by steven-neil
Don't waste your breath James...He knows less about housing markets than he does about edm...


next he's going to tell us to invest in subprime loans.


Posted by blenderx on Oct-25-2007 05:38:

quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
No bro, you don't get it. Supply and demand isn't simply a numbers thing. It's the graphical representation of REAL life. It's just an easy way to show what's occurring.

NYC (BK and other boroughs included) has a greater supply of housing. It also has a greater demand. Not surprisingly, it also has higher prices. That shows that the high prices of NYC(including outer boroughs) housing compared to NJ housing isn't a result of low supply. So it means something else is going into it; That's where preference comes into play. And yes, generally speaking, supply, demand, and prices are the best indications of which place is better. (of course this is generally speaking) Seriously bro, read some books.


Demand is composite function of so many different factors...

Just because a shitload of people come to New York because there is work, that makes it better than new jersey?


Posted by blenderx on Oct-25-2007 05:40:

quote:
Originally posted by vtec junkie
The only thing apparent is that fact that you're off to a great start on TA......you fit right in and will gain many friends from here on out.


lol i've actually met/saw a lot of you at love when thrillseekers was there


Posted by steven-neil on Oct-25-2007 05:43:

quote:
Originally posted by blenderx
lol i've actually met/saw a lot of you at love when thrillseekers was there


I'm having great fun with you,,keep up the good work...So how much did you pay for your house ?????.....


Posted by blenderx on Oct-25-2007 05:44:

lol why would i answer that


Posted by steven-neil on Oct-25-2007 05:48:

quote:
Originally posted by blenderx
lol why would i answer that


youre the one saying put your money where your mouth is..i assume you do own your own house even though you know very little about the market...your argument must be based on personal experience surely...


Posted by jerZ07002 on Oct-25-2007 05:52:

quote:
Originally posted by blenderx
Demand is composite function of so many different factors...

Just because a shitload of people come to New York because there is work, that makes it better than new jersey?


no, but employers don't blindly locate their business in a location. They do so with the intention of attracting people to work there (or get tax incentives, etc....). But since NYC expenses are so great, it is a reasonable assumption to think businesses locate in NYC to attract people who are otherwise attracted to NYC. NYC doesn't do that much to attract employers; the state and city have high corporate, personal, and property taxes, and a shitty credit and incentives program. That alone is enough to drive businesses away, but nevertheless they stay because the people want to live here.

At the same time, the aggregate will of the people could demand employers to relocate in NJ, but that simply doesn't happen. Additionally, people who work in NYC can easily live in NJ, and create sufficient demand to top the prices in NYC. That doesn't happen. I don't understand how you can't understand this. This shit is basic logic.

Lastly, i don't know why you keep saying demand is a composite function, NO SHIT! That composite function is mostly the will of people. Any component function of demand you can pull from the equation i'm sure i can attribute it back to the desire of the people to live in NYC (BK included).


Posted by blenderx on Oct-25-2007 06:01:

quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
no, but employers don't blindly locate their business in a location. They do so with the intention of attracting people to work there (or get tax incentives, etc....). But since NYC expenses are so great, it is a reasonable assumption to think businesses locate in NYC to attract people who are otherwise attracted to NYC. NYC doesn't do that much to attract employers; the state and city have high corporate, personal, and property taxes, and a shitty credit and incentives program. That alone is enough to drive businesses away, but nevertheless they stay because the people want to live here.

At the same time, the aggregate will of the people could demand employers to relocate in NJ, but that simply doesn't happen. Additionally, people who work in NYC can easily live in NJ, and create sufficient demand to top the prices in NYC. That doesn't happen. I don't understand how you can't understand this. This shit is basic logic.

Lastly, i don't know why you keep saying demand is a composite function, NO SHIT! That composite function is mostly the will of people. Any individual function of demand you can pull from the equation i'm sure i can attribute it back to the desire of the people to live in NYC (BK included).


Hey buddy you can incorrectly use and apply as many economic principles as you want. NO respectable economist would make so bold a statement to say that new york is better than new jersey based simply on economic data.

Especially because "better" is subjective. Supply and demand always ensures the most efficient outcome occurs. That's not always the best. And what you say is better is different than what I say.

By your logic, more demand for swiss as opposed to gouda cheese means gouda is better? A disparity in preferences does not reveal which is better.


Posted by jerZ07002 on Oct-25-2007 06:12:

quote:
Originally posted by blenderx
Hey buddy you can incorrectly use and apply as many economic principles as you want. NO respectable economist would make so bold a statement to say that new york is better than new jersey based simply on economic data.

Especially because "better" is subjective. Supply and demand always ensures the most efficient outcome occurs. That's not always the best. And what you say is better is different than what I say.


you're right, better was a poor choice in wording, "preferable to more people" is a better phrase. But then again, we are arguing about whether the outer boroughs are shit. The economic data simply doesn't support that ridiculous notion. You can call it a misapplication all you want, that doesn't make it a misapplication. I was not using economic data to show efficiency, that is a given. I was working backwards to show the factors involved in creating the equilibrium. You can read far more from the supply and demand graph than just the efficient price. You can deduce the reasons for such a result.


Posted by steven-neil on Oct-25-2007 06:12:

quote:
Originally posted by blenderx
Hey buddy you can incorrectly use and apply as many economic principles as you want. NO respectable economist would make so bold a statement to say that new york is better than new jersey based simply on economic data.

Especially because "better" is subjective. Supply and demand always ensures the most efficient outcome occurs. That's not always the best. And what you say is better is different than what I say.

By your logic, more demand for swiss as opposed to gouda cheese means gouda is better? A disparity in preferences does not reveal which is better.


So where did you buy your home and establish your company...


Posted by blenderx on Oct-25-2007 06:14:

quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
you're right, better was a poor choice in wording, "preferable to more people" is a better phrase. But then again, we are arguing about whether the outer boroughs are shit. The economic data simply doesn't support that ridiculous notion. You can call it a misapplication all you want, that doesn't make it a misapplication. I was not using economic data to show what was more efficient, that is a given. I was working backwards to show the show the factors involved in creating the equilibrium. You can read far more from the supply and demand graph than just the efficient price. You can deduce the reasons for such a result.


this wasted a lot of my time im going to bed

ILL BE BACK IN THE MORNING THOUGH


Posted by steven-neil on Oct-25-2007 06:16:

quote:
Originally posted by blenderx
this wasted a lot of my time im going to bed

ILL BE BACK IN THE MORNING THOUGH


dont forget to use the bathroom...


Posted by vtec junkie on Oct-25-2007 06:19:

quote:
Originally posted by steven-neil
dont forget to use the bathroom...



Posted by euphoria on Oct-25-2007 13:16:

quote:
Originally posted by steven-neil
I'm having great fun with you,,keep up the good work...So how much did you pay for your house ?????.....


Why would you assume he lives in a house? I think he still lives with his mom I was going to come on this morning to tear him a new one but you guys are doing just fine

In fact the more he posts, the more he makes himself look like a dumb ass. Quite entertaining

Carry on.....


Posted by blenderx on Oct-25-2007 13:45:

lol don't be mad cause you said boro's


Posted by yankeeBaby on Oct-25-2007 13:46:

hey jerz last year I was living on Riverside Drive, right outside of the opening to riverbank park GREAT place to live......and on a subway line....


Posted by euphoria on Oct-25-2007 13:58:

quote:
Originally posted by blenderx
lol don't be mad cause you said boro's


I'm not mad at all. I think you are a blithering idiot. Can't be mad at someone for being stupid, it's really not their fault. Anyway, I am done with you....and this thread.

The original poster never replied so there is no point in continuing this discussion. May be he changed his mind and will move to Jersey and then Blender can have his first and only friend.


Posted by daydreamer on Oct-25-2007 16:36:

you guys were having so much fun
that i decided just to go get some popcorn.


i'm not scared at all really,
it's not like if i've lived in Houston my whole life. i like to travel.
I've spent a summer in Japan, 6 weeks in Europe, and a couple of months in Central and South America. I can easily adapt, i think....

i've saved some money to make the move, but maybe i should save a few more bucks. 15g's enough to make the move?

i'm thinking of subletting a place for a month or two(thanks to whomever suggested that) while i figure out exactly where i want to stay, and if i can afford it of course. most likely, going to have to get a roommate after that.

if my first job doesn't pay that much, i'll just get a second job. hard work is nothing new to me. i just want to work in something i love to do.

thanks for your help NYTA's
(vos tambien NJTA, no te dejes, tu dale duro vale.)


ciao ciao


Posted by phuzzyfish12 on Oct-25-2007 16:37:

quote:
Originally posted by daydreamer
you guys were having so much fun
that i decided just to go get some popcorn.


i'm not scared at all really,
it's not like if i've lived in Houston my whole life. i like to travel.
I've spent a summer in Japan, 6 weeks in Europe, and a couple of months in Central and South America. I can easily adapt, i think....

i've saved some money to make the move, but maybe i should save a few more bucks. 15g's enough to make the move?

i'm thinking of subletting a place for a month or two(thanks to whomever suggested that) while i figure out exactly where i want to stay, and if i can afford it of course. most likely, going to have to get a roommate after that.

if my first job doesn't pay that much, i'll just get a second job. hard work is nothing new to me. i just want to work in something i love to do.

thanks for your help NYTA's
(vos tambien NJTA, no te dejes, tu dale duro vale.)


ciao ciao


Shit you don't need us you're good to go!!!


oh and WELCOME TO NY


Posted by yankeeBaby on Oct-25-2007 17:45:

day dreamer: fyi if you need a second job, try bartending or waiting tables in a touristy area. I was making $300 a night just in tips (plus $100 paycheck). I think I make the same money waiting in Times Square than I do know, with a masters degree and a real job.


You also never said what your monthly budget for rent would be. We could easily give you advice on what exact neighborhoods to stay in if you gave us that info . Also, unless you are willing to put up major bucks, PLEASE remember that living in manhattan equals living in a shoebox.


Posted by dcctnycprincess on Oct-25-2007 18:08:

more like livin' in a kleenex box


Posted by blenderx on Oct-25-2007 23:02:

quote:
Originally posted by euphoria
I'm not mad at all. I think you are a blithering idiot. Can't be mad at someone for being stupid, it's really not their fault. Anyway, I am done with you....and this thread.

The original poster never replied so there is no point in continuing this discussion. May be he changed his mind and will move to Jersey and then Blender can have his first and only friend.


LOL


Posted by fr0st on Oct-25-2007 23:23:

You guys are idiots.... Blender is completely right, please everyone move to Manhattan, brooklyn and queens are def the slums... And forget Bronx, has anyone ever actually been there?


Again stay out of Brooklyn or get your ass shot.... I dodged a few coming home today, steven has actually witnessed a few shootings in brooklyn and been shot himself right down the street from my house.


Posted by jerZ07002 on Oct-25-2007 23:58:

quote:
Originally posted by yankeeBaby
hey jerz last year I was living on Riverside Drive, right outside of the opening to riverbank park GREAT place to live......and on a subway line....


I don't do north of columbia. But those parks are beautiful.


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