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Originally posted by rulzz +1 but if you do go as far as ego death on acid its much less appealing after

Agreed - though necessary for all at different times, the death of the ego is a terribly painful experience.

Is ego death the phenomna of not knowing that you exist anymore???

I have read about before but I would love to hear an experiance about it.

I believe that there are claims that such state can be also reached by meditation... not 100% sure tho

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Originally posted by _EuG_ Is ego death the phenomna of not knowing that you exist anymore??? I have read about before but I would love to hear an experiance about it. I believe that there are claims that such state can be also reached by meditation... not 100% sure tho

Not entirely, although I suppose it's definition is different for everybody (the nature of the individual experience is archetypal, though still unique in its dressings). It really is, as they say, beyond the words of explanation - but a simple summation, at least from experience, would be this: the complete dismemberment of what you went in thinking defined yourself - call it a stripping away of the self down to the bear minimum of functional needs, and the realization of the trueness of the unconscious, and the falsity of the rational manifestation taking place in the current ego of the current. It feels a lot like the death and rebirth scenario: you feel yourself stripped down to an infant mind, and then its a slow rebirth into a new method of thinking.

To endure the experience, and emerge from it, is truly the most blissful, ecstatic thing I've yet encountered; however, the journey down was also, by far, the most terrifying and painful.

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Originally posted by Elendil It feels a lot like the death and rebirth scenario: you feel yourself stripped down to an infant mind, and then its a slow rebirth into a new method of thinking. To endure the experience, and emerge from it, is truly the most blissful, ecstatic thing I've yet encountered; however, the journey down was also, by far, the most terrifying and painful.

WOW dood, you TOTALLY hit the nail on the head
Now i KNOW you've smoked this stuff

Mayyyyybe

Salvia Drug Craze Sparks Concern
Teens Bragging About Hallucinogenic Trips


PHOENIX -- Salvia, a legal drug more potent than LSD, has recently gained popularity among teens and young adults.

Available online and in smoke shops, salvia is a plant that causes hallucinations to those under its influence.

Scottsdale teen Jake Posso tried salvia three years ago at age 15 and said his first trip caused him to see checkerboards across the sky.

"I've seen more things on salvia than I've seen on acid," said Posso.

The drive for the drug is increasing as teens brag about and even post their experiences with the salvia on YouTube.

One video on the site showcases a teen on hallucinogenic trip in his bathtub acting as if someone is attacking him.


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YouTube Video: Teen On Salvia
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While many teens are describing the drug as "the best legal high there is," the drug itself has proved dangerous.

In 2006, after using salvia for several months, 17-year-old Brett Chidester of Delaware zipped himself in a tent and set it on fire.

Valley drug counselor Sean Walsh said compared to other drugs, hallucinogens are more likely to lead to suicide.

"Every kid I've had come in who hallucinogens are their drug of choice, every one of them generally has anxiety disorders or depression," said Walsh.

Salvia's newfound popularity has raised the question of whether it will cause long-term side effects.

The drug is currently illegal in eight states, but Arizona is not one of them.

The Drug Enforcement Administration is investigating salvia, but said it has not set a timetable for a decision on whether the drug should remain legal at the federal level.

Researchers said they believe salvia has medicinal value for treatment of psychological diseases like schizophrenia and Alzheimer's, but said they would still support a law making it illegal to people under 18.

http://www.kpho.com/news/15221494/detail.html

Not interested in trying it.

Been there and done that with drugs. I'm no saint, but I kinda like feeling in control.

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Originally posted by activate Been there and done that with drugs. I'm no saint, but I kinda like feeling in control.

I couldnt agree more

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Originally posted by Ania_xox Crazy story I had a really bad sore throat once and my grandma told me that sage tea was once commonly used to treat sore throats and that I should try it. The word for "sage" in Polish is "szalwia" (shalvia) Anyways, I bought a whole box of the stuff and made myself a steaming hot cup with two teabags in it and drank it piping hot, allowing myself to inhale the steam. I took a nap right after.... FUCKED.UP.DREAMS. I was a mermaid with purple fins flying through the sky and some shit like that and my mom told me she saw me gnawing my thumb while I was sleeping. Anyways, yes - salvia contains a direct extract of sage herb. Moral: gargle the tea. don't fucking ingest it.

what you tried was different, while you're not supposed to ingest it, you're supposed to gargle it only
it's called shalphey in russian.

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Originally posted by geroin what you tried was different, while you're not supposed to ingest it, you're supposed to gargle it only it's called shalphey in russian.

Why aren't you allowed to ingest it?

I don't know dude, I've tried the Salvia Polish tea, and it tastes quite good. Definitely no need to gargle it. I think what you're saying is she SHOULD have gargled shalpey, but instead she drank the tea.

what she is talking about is Salvia officinalis L.

http://www.uni-graz.at/~katzer/engl/Salv_off.html


Genus Salvia is not restricted to the Old World; several sage species from Central America are characterized by a sweet, fruity fragrance very dissimilar to Mediterranean sage, e.g. Pineapple sage (Salvia rutilans), peach sage (Salvia greggii), fruit sage (Salvia dorisiana) and more. Some of these become increasingly popular for herb infusions, others are grown as ornamentals for their large flowers.

Also native to Central America is a hallucinogenic species, Salvia divinorum (sacred sage, sage of the seers), which is of old cultivated by Central American Indians and was used in religious ceremonies before the advent of the Spaniards. The psychoactive constituents were identified as diterpenoid lactones (salvinorin A, divinorin C and others) specific for this species. S. divinorum is the only hallucinogenic species in the whole Lamiaceae family.

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Originally posted by jsibilin

This guy needs a punch in the face.

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Originally posted by Skipper This guy needs a punch in the face.

i think i became stupid watching that

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Originally posted by jchung52 i think i became stupid watching that

Stupid is as stupid does

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