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Posted by rabbitjoker on Nov-08-2007 16:23:

The low dollar is great for American exporters! MADE IN USA!


Posted by English Rachel on Nov-08-2007 16:35:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
The low dollar is great for American exporters! MADE IN USA!


Absolutely, hopefully this will have a balancing effect on the rising superpower that is China

They are taking over the world
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To see this story with its related links on the Guardian Unlimited site, go to http://www.guardian.co.uk/technolog...ment.secondlife

Virtual China looks for real benefits
Victor Keegan
Thursday November 1 2007
The Guardian


Anyone who still thinks that virtual worlds such as MindArk's Entropia Universe or Second Life are the plaything of geeks should look at what is happening in China. It is simply mind-boggling and, if it all comes off, has awesome implications for western economies. I have written before about how the Beijing municipality in partnership with private capital (and with help from MindArk of Sweden) is planning a virtual world for around 150m avatars, of which 7m could be online at the same time. This is so far above the capability of the much-hyped Second Life, which rarely has more than 50,000 online concurrently, that I had some difficulty in believing it.

So when I saw Robert Lai, chief scientist of the Beijing Cyber Recreation District project, at last week's excellent Virtual Worlds forum in London, I asked him whether it was really true they were planning on such a scale.

No, he replied, it wasn't true. The project is much, much bigger than that. There are nine similar virtual universes being planned. China is converting a 100 sq km site (yes, that is a very big space) on the former nationalised steel mill site to house, among other things, virtual worlds able to support not millions or tens of millions but billions of avatars. When I looked puzzled, he said that people still did not realise how big a country China was. And he is right. It is tempting to dismiss all this as an Asian phenomenon with no implications for us. That would be a serious mistake. It is about the availability of broadband, not culture. The sky is no longer the limit. The world is changing.

And how. When I asked Professor Lai to explain what this was all about, he touched his shirt. This, he said, cost $1 when it left China but he noticed, walking around the shops, that it would retail at $20 over here. This project is about staking a claim to that value added. And not just in shirts. A western avatar wandering around one of these virtual worlds could almost as easily be ordering a car built to his specification for delivery in the UK. Goods that were made in China could have web addresses to take western buyers direct to a Chinese website for further purchases or replacements. There will of course, be games - they are a big part of industry these day - but this is a bold attempt to repeat what China has done in manufacturing (ie, conquering the world) in services. Be warned.

It doesn't stop there. This site, now under construction, will have all the infrastructure (server farms, communication links, electricity, banking links, logistics etc) needed to make this the world's one-stop shop for consumers and producers. China, which is hosting a conference on the subject next month, wants companies around the globe to set up here - the likes of Cisco, IBM or western virtual worlds - to take advantage of state-of-the art communications, infrastructure and (for the moment) cheap wages. It could be a difficult proposition for many corporations to resist.

If it were anyone but China planning this you would take it with a pinch of salt. But this is not the NHS, it is the world's biggest manufacturing country pitching to lead the next stage of development as the internet moves into three dimensions. When I asked the professor whether the coming of virtual worlds would be on a scale commensurate with the industrial revolution, he replied: "It will be faster, bigger, more like an explosion."

At the moment, Britain and other western economies benefit from cheap Chinese manufactured goods and the low inflation they bring while also benefiting from huge wholesale, retail and distribution markups on the same goods. If they too migrate to China, what will there be left for us to do? That is a very serious question.

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Posted by slingshot on Nov-08-2007 17:07:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
The low dollar is great for American exporters! MADE IN USA!


Beggar thy neighbor!


Posted by Orko on Nov-08-2007 17:14:

Seems like most of what you guys have been saying, is true.


  1. We are an export, resource based economy
  2. The USA is importing less than they used to from Canada
  3. Oil and other natural resources are driving our exports



quote:
Canada's exports to China surged in the first part of this year, as the eastern economic giant's appetite for Canadian metals, crude oil, chemicals, potash and agricultural goods picked up ahead of the 2008 Olympic games in Beijing.

According to a Statistics Canada report released Thursday, Canada's exports to China nearly doubled to $8-billion in 2006 from $4-billion in 2002. In the first seven months of 2007, they soared 43 per cent over the same period one year ago, the largest gain by any of the G-7 countries.

Although Canada still imports far more from China than it exports � $21.7-billion as of July, 2007 compared to $5.5- billion � export growth has outpaced imports by a wide margin this year. China is now sitting neck and neck with Japan as Canada's third largest export market.

�Canada is clearly benefiting from the magnitude of China's demand for natural resources,� said Statistics Canada's Diana Wyman. �The nation of more than 1.3 billion people is expanding its manufacturing base and building massive infrastructure projects, from ports and bridges to facilities for the 2008 Olympic Games.�

Chinese demand accelerated in 2007, at the same time as prices for metals, potash, canola and industrial goods have climbed. In addition, China is now Canada's second-largest consumer of crude oil, which is also trading at record highs.

Canadian trade has diversified in recent years, Statscan said. Rising demand from Europe and Asia, combined with relatively flat demand growth in the United States, led to a sharp rise in the share of Canadian exports heading to countries other than the U.S., which has long been Canada's biggest trading partner.

Nearly a quarter, or 24 per cent, of Canadian exports are now headed for non-U.S. countries, up from 16 per cent five years ago.

�The recent shift to increased trade with the rest of the world was well-timed, given the onset of the housing-induced slowdown south of the border,� Ms. Wyman said. �All regions of Canada have benefited from this shift in exports toward non-U.S. countries.�

Ontario was the biggest beneficiary of this trend, with exports to countries other than the United States rising nearly $20-billion since 2002. �Ontario's auto sector may have slowed, but the overseas demand for its nickel, gold, and uranium resources, as well as aircraft, high-tech and other machinery, is on the rise,� Ms. Wyman said.

Canada's sources of imports also have shifted, with a record-high 35 per cent coming from countries other than the U.S. in 2007, up from 25 per cent in 2002. More than half of that increase is attributable to China.

So what kind of Canadian goods is China devouring? Industrial products like metals, fertilizers such as potash, chemicals like ethylene glycol, which is used to make polyester, make up just over half of Canadian exports to China, Statscan said. They are set to triple their 2002 values in 2007.

Forestry and agricultural materials, like wood pulp, grains and canola, machinery, energy and consumer goods are some of the other Canadian exports to China.

China's economy has been on a tear in recent years, and the country is now in the midst of a construction boom. The building spree has picked up as it prepares dozens of stadiums and other venues for the 2008 Olympics games in the capital city of Beijing. The massive building and infrastructure projects have boosted demand for Canadian natural resources.

Canadian metal exports to China are running 70 per cent higher in 2007 than in 2006, Statscan said, a much faster pace than in previous years.

Energy has never been a major export to China, but Canadian crude oil shipments to China topped $150-million in the first seven months of 2007, opening up a potentially large market for Canadian crude. Statscan said increased trade was a result of China and Canada testing the �logistics of shipping Alberta oil through the Port of Vancouver.�

source

Interesting points from this article:

  1. Ontario has actually increased its exports over the last few years, even with the rising dollar
  2. Ontario is still exporting manufacturing goods, but the focus has shifted away from the auto industry
  3. China is not only willing to buy our oil companies, but also to buy our oil
  4. China needs building materials for the Olympics, and their incredible boom
  5. Canada is exporting less to the USA, but more to other parts of the world


Posted by I_Am_Vince on Nov-08-2007 21:22:

I just went to the bank today to deposit my check, and they asked me if I wanted to get some US dollars I said "sure why not? how much is $300 USD?" the teller said $287 CAD I laughed out loud and yelled out 'DEAL!' and people stared at me lol


Posted by Skipper on Nov-09-2007 00:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Invasionmix
I just went to the bank today to deposit my check, and they asked me if I wanted to get some US dollars I said "sure why not? how much is $300 USD?" the teller said $287 CAD I laughed out loud and yelled out 'DEAL!' and people stared at me lol


That means the exchange rate on that deal was 1.04. the dollar is trading at over 1.07.


Posted by geroin on Nov-09-2007 01:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
That means the exchange rate on that deal was 1.04. the dollar is trading at over 1.07.


you would get 1.07 on a deal worth 5 million dollars not 300 bucks, the more money you exchange the better rate you get. The rate you see on TV is calculated towards millions of dollars.


Posted by Skipper on Nov-09-2007 01:24:

How often does the bank adjust their posted exchange rate, then?
*checks latest beatport receipt*


Posted by Cro_Addict on Nov-09-2007 01:24:

quote:
Originally posted by geroin
you would get 1.07 on a deal worth 5 million dollars not 300 bucks, the more money you exchange the better rate you get. The rate you see on TV is calculated towards millions of dollars.


Your face is a million dollars.!


Posted by geroin on Nov-09-2007 01:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
How often does the bank adjust their posted exchange rate, then?
*checks latest beatport receipt*



The rate changes every minute, hour etc and is adjusted on that basis, if you want to find out the exact rate of the time you can call the banking representative.
Also depending on the credit card you use there is also a 2.5% conversion fee for converting Canadian dollars to US dollars when making a transaction. It will never be posted on your statement because it is already included into the price, you will only see the rate. It is in your cardholders agreement btw. If your bank offers a US dollar credit card I'd suggest getting one because there is no conversion rate fee and it strictly in US funds.


Posted by me@t k@tie on Nov-09-2007 03:47:

http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi

Go there if you want an exact current exchange rate.

1.00 CAD = 1.07575 USD

I just clicked refresh, and

1.00 CAD = 1.07687 USD

ZOMG!!


Posted by geroin on Nov-09-2007 05:38:

quote:
Originally posted by me@t k@tie
http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi

Go there if you want an exact current exchange rate.

1.00 CAD = 1.07575 USD

I just clicked refresh, and

1.00 CAD = 1.07687 USD

ZOMG!!


like i said, this will never be the rate when you're making purchases because this is an exchange rate in millions so you will have to call a banking representative to find out the rate.


Posted by jchung52 on Nov-09-2007 05:40:

i just reloaded my poker account... exchange was around the 1.07 mark


Posted by Skipper on Nov-12-2007 17:49:

From today's globe:

quote:
Dollar tumbles more than 2 cents
ROMA LUCIW
Globe and Mail Update
November 12, 2007 at 12:15 PM EST
The Canadian dollar dropped more than two cents on Monday, as traders extended last week's selloff amid a background of increased global risk aversion and falling commodity prices.

�Everything people have bought, they sold today. Everything they had sold, they bought,� Marc Chandler, a currency strategist at Brown Brothers Harriman in New York, said in an interview. �So the Canadian dollar, which has been a high-flying currency, is having a setback today.�

The loonie slid to $1.0345 (U.S.) on Monday morning, down $0.0262 cents from Friday's closing price. According to Bloomberg, the Canadian dollar fell as much as 2.2 per cent on Monday, its largest drop since January 1971, when they started keeping data for the exchange rate.

The currency has outperformed all of its global peers this year, with a meteoric 22 per cent surge against the greenback. Last Wednesday it hit another milestone, hurtling above $1.10. But it failed to hang on to those gains, losing 4 per cent in the last five trading sessions.


The loonie slid to $1.0421 in Monday morning trade, down $1.86 from Friday's closing price. According to Bloomberg, it was the Canadian dollar's biggest one-day drop since February, 2005. (The Canadian Press)


Soaring commodity prices, a weak U.S. currency and solid domestic economic growth have helped lift the loonie to record highs. However, currency experts agree that the loonie has surpassed what is justified by economic fundamentals, and that part of the gains are stemming from speculative buyers who are looking for a quick profit.

Part of Monday's Canadian dollar weakness came on the back of lower oil prices, which retreated from last week's record highs near $99 a barrel, as well as falling bullion. Analysts said fears that slowing global growth will pare demand for commodities was fuelling the day's drop.

The increased risk aversion in commodity markets was being driven by concerns about a further and wider fallout from the U.S. subprime mortgage crisis. That has, in turn, caused investors to pull back from higher yielding currencies, like the Canadian and Australian dollars, and boosted the U.S greenback.

The American dollar rose against all major global currencies Monday, with the exception of the Japanese yen.

�That is really one driving force today for the Canadian dollar, people getting out of short yen positions,� Mr. Chandler said. �Market participants are unwinding their positions and reducing their overall risk exposure in thin holiday markets.�

U.S. bond markets were closed Monday for the Veterans Day holiday, leading to lower volumes and exaggerated trading actions.

Mr. Chandler said Monday that currency traders are taking profits where they can. The key issue, he said, is whether Monday's Canadian dollar losses are a trend reversal or a short-term fall driven by the unwinding of risk positions.

�We don't think this is necessarily a trend reversal,� he said. �Before Canadian exporters pat themselves on the back for dodging a bullet, we suspect the other shoe could still drop and that the Canadian dollar could get much stronger before it gets much weaker.�

U.S. investment newsletter writer Dennis Gartman is not so sure. �We take it quite seriously that the Canadian dollar has weakened as sharply as it has since mid-week last week, and we consider it a harbinger of a change relative to the euro, the British pound and to the carry trade generally.�

He noted that speculative buyers who have borrowed yen to invest in Canada have in the last month run into trouble and are facing problems for the first time in a long while. �This, we fear, can get very, very ugly, and do so very, very quickly.�

The soaring loonie claimed another Canadian corporate victim Monday. Conglomerate Onex Corp. reported a large third-quarter loss as its bottom line was hit by currency translation losses on U.S. cash and securities, as well as by non-cash charges on a recent acquisition. Onex keeps its accounts in Canadian dollars but does most of its business in U.S. dollars.


Posted by I_Am_Vince on Nov-12-2007 18:53:

Yeah so I went to the US on Saturday the wait getting there at the border was about an hour (@ 9:00 am) the wait on the way back was 2 hours (@11:00 PM) we didn't get pulled over though or pay taxes cause the line up was really long I guess spent a good thousand bucks


Posted by zookeeper on Nov-13-2007 05:26:

I have never seen so many Ontario vehicles at the Waterloo, NY Outlet Mall this weekend.
There were Canadians everywhere, throwing old jackets, shirts, shoes and pants into the trash bins and walking out of stores wearing brand new clothes.

I can remember when Canadian currency was discounted 40% at the NYS Thruway!

WTF is going on here?!!


Posted by Zentac_75 on Nov-13-2007 05:29:

quote:
Originally posted by zookeeper
I have never seen so many Ontario vehicles at the Waterloo, NY Outlet Mall this weekend.
There were Canadians everywhere, throwing old jackets, shirts, shoes and pants into the trash bins and walking out of stores wearing brand new clothes.

I can remember when Canadian currency was discounted 40% at the NYS Thruway!

WTF is going on here?!!


I hope your exagerating about the trash part.


Posted by jchung52 on Nov-13-2007 05:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Zentac_75
I hope your exagerating about the trash part.


ive seen it many times. like one time at the nike outlet, i saw a family come out, take their shoes off and put on the new kicks, tossing the box and old shoes in the trash


Posted by malek on Nov-13-2007 05:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Zentac_75
I hope your exagerating about the trash part.



old trick, you dress like a hobo with cloth you were going to throw away anyways, come back in and declare nothing


Posted by zookeeper on Nov-13-2007 05:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Zentac_75
I hope your exagerating about the trash part.


NOT AT ALL!! People were literally "stripping down"!

The bins at the mall were overflowing with shoe boxes, removed price tags, packing papers and old clothes.


Posted by Zentac_75 on Nov-13-2007 05:57:

Im going to tell call Goodwill and tell them to set up those booths at those locations. Srsly what a waste....

The dollar fluctuates and we throw away our old clothes ????

WOW my grandparents would come back to life and die again if they heard about this.


Posted by zookeeper on Nov-13-2007 06:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Zentac_75
Im going to tell call Goodwill and tell them to set up those booths at those locations. Srsly what a waste....


Not to worry, lots of Waterloo white trash will have new Canadian coats for Christmas (they were all there for dumpster diving)


Posted by LKD on Nov-15-2007 23:52:

as i speculated...we're now down to 1.01478.....i wish i actually put money down when i had the bet with some optimists that said CAD would only rise while i said 30 ddays is all it needs to fall back down to the same as or less than the USD..

y do people not listen...tsktsktsk


Posted by djbruuen on Nov-16-2007 00:09:

quote:
Originally posted by El K Dee
as i speculated...we're now down to 1.01478.....i wish i actually put money down when i had the bet with some optimists that said CAD would only rise while i said 30 ddays is all it needs to fall back down to the same as or less than the USD..

y do people not listen...tsktsktsk



pg.2 --

quote:
Originally posted by djbruuen
i was thinking the same thing. If i had money to invest, i'd definitely go nuts on it in about a month or so when it surpases $1.10...its inevitably going to come back down. Selling in 2 years you'd probably make a killing.


Posted by LKD on Nov-16-2007 00:57:

quote:
Originally posted by djbruuen
pg.2 --


lol obviously i didnt read the whole thread to know someone else had similar sentiments

but yea...those who called us pessimists are now sad


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