have lost all respect for paul van dyk...

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Posted by JonDC on Nov-05-2007 18:57:

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Originally posted by Skagdog
1st. He doesn't mix. He uses Ableton which mixes the tracks for him.

2nd. I am not the person who is down at the front with a notebook. I have seen PVD loads of times for loads of years and heard him play the best sets of my life with his banging tunes and uplifting trance. Until this year he has been the best by far. But now you can only really call 50% of his set uplifting and thats including the usual "Nothin But You" and all the same tunes he plays every set. When we used to see him it used to be 3 hours of the most up to date uplifting music that you could possibly want to hear but now his sets dont flow or have any construction to them.

Abelton doesnt 'mix it for you' - you still have to tell it what to do. By excellent mixing, I didn't mean he is good at getting beats in time - thats the only part that Abelton does for you. The exciting thing that PVD does is layer tunes over the top of eachother, giving them a different feel - again if you go back to the example of the Global set, where he plays "need's to feel" over the top of something else, and it just sounds way more energetic. Doing things like that on the fly impresses me more than tight beatmixing, which anyone can learn to do in a couple of years.

Posted by JonDC on Nov-05-2007 18:57:

Posted by jupiterone on Nov-05-2007 19:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Skagdog
1st. He doesn't mix. He uses Ableton which mixes the tracks for him.

LyKe, AbLeTRon DoEs AlL THe MiXiNg FoR HiM.

Posted by DJ Blitzkrieg on Nov-05-2007 20:10:

Ya, his new album "In Between" is pretty bad aside for a few good songs.

Posted by Rick D on Nov-05-2007 21:04:

Trancer-Gal - Why was his set crap?

Skagdog - why do you care what he uses to mix, he has been around since before all of this new technology and has proved that he can mix using 2 1210's and a mixer, and has now moved with the times and braced the fantastic technology that we have today. I don't know if you DJ or not, but if you do and use vinyl still, you should understand how limited the options are other than just mixing 2 tracks together. Even with cd's you are still fairly restricted in comparison to Ableton. Personally i couldn't care less if he was using fisher price toy decks to mix, so long as the result sounded good and i liked what i heard.

As for the content of hs sets, i think generally its top drawer, i like the sounds he puts out, mixing uplifting with driving with techtrance with techno and quite a few other genres as well. I saw Filo & Peri a few months back, now that is what you call a boring set, 90 minutes of what sounded like the same basslines with different buildups, no progression at all.

When PvD gets it right he pwns any DJ on this planet IMO

Posted by nefardec on Nov-05-2007 21:09:

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Originally posted by Rick D

When PvD gets it right he pwns any DJ on this planet IMO

You need to get out a little more i think, Richard

Posted by InfiniteSquare on Nov-05-2007 21:16:

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Originally posted by Cobalt
The difference, in my mind, is that all those artists had a shred of dignity.

Can you think of a more disgraceful artist for him to have remixed? Britney Spears is the poster child of musical blindness and delusion. Is this remix supposed to be a play of irony?

Titbalt: why would it matter who he remixes, all that should matter is what comes out of the speakers. if it's good, then it's good.. if it's not, well then it's not!

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Nov-05-2007 21:18:

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Originally posted by InfiniteSquare
Titbalt: why would it matter who he remixes, all that should matter is what comes out of the speakers. if it's good, then it's good.. if it's not, well then it's not!

Well... it's not.

Posted by InfiniteSquare on Nov-05-2007 21:53:

true dat

Posted by UWM on Nov-05-2007 22:09:

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Originally posted by InfiniteSquare
Titbalt

Wow, that's really clever.

Posted by Googooly on Nov-05-2007 22:52:

ladies and gentelmans....please give it up for MR PAUL VAN SHITE!

Posted by Big Poppa Smurf on Nov-05-2007 23:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Rick D
Personally i couldn't care less if he was using fisher price toy decks to mix, so long as the result sounded good and i liked what i heard.

LMAO... If he did that, then I would respect him even more. =D

Posted by Rick D on Nov-06-2007 09:05:

quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
You need to get out a little more i think, Richard

Why do you say that, I am not for one minute saying he is the best DJ in the world technically. Sure there are people that do scratching and cutting and all that DMX stuff that PvD can't do, but i'm not into that so for me, the statement I made was true.

And my name isn't Richard, I was christened Ricky

Posted by Paradox Lost on Nov-06-2007 11:07:

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Originally posted by Cobalt Is this remix supposed to be a play of irony?

Perhaps. As Mikey Mike G pointed out, James Holden had produced a remix of Britney Spears' "Breathe on Me" a couple of years ago, and it was actually quite a well produced remix. Although I'm not familiar with his reasoning, I'm familiar enough with his production style and background to assume it's one of those 'ironic remixes' you're talking about.

Besides, PvD and Holden are not the only two major acts who have applied their touches to Spears- Leama & Moor also gave her the remix treatment, in addition to one of Avril Lavigne's tracks, and I would hardly accuse that amazing duo of attempting to sell out (Leama said their Avril Lavigne remix is one of the highlights of his entire production career).

As for PvD in general, I've always been rather indifferent to him. He's always been at least passable to me in terms of a DJ, though I rarely find myself fond of anything he produces- this remix of Britney Spears will change very little of my personal viewpoint on him.

Posted by Cobalt on Nov-07-2007 01:45:

Posted by Darkarbiter on Nov-07-2007 11:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Googooly
ladies and gentelmans....please give it up for MR PAUL VAN SHITE!

No E, Paul van

Posted by alextranceraus on Nov-07-2007 13:13:

He's a great DJ, it's just that his track selection has now diminished, like most DJ's he discovered the new flavour of electronic, that being minimal/tech? He needs to go back to his musical roots and to make himself aware of what made him and his music so popular.

He was great back when he only did Soundgarden and guest DJ'd on GDJB and ASOT.

Posted by DiegoParra32 on Nov-07-2007 16:01:

I must say that although I agree that I do not approve the direction he has gone, even though I am not into trance as much as I use to be, i still go to see him b/c he is one of the few djs' that whenever I go see, always delivers.

Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Nov-07-2007 17:02:

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Originally posted by PvD_Rz
It is always the same, couldn't simply enjoy the music, always have to criticize everything; What is the problem with this remix? If the remix is bad, it's bad, what is the fucking problem? PvD is a great Dj and "In Between isn't so bad...It is curious as although you like EDM, always speak pure shit about this...

Is English your second language? It's fucking atrocious - not quite as atrocious as PvD's new album though.

Posted by chrisday on Nov-07-2007 17:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Rick D

I would second that! If he is on form... There is no one who can touch him.

Posted by MeLLyMeL on Nov-07-2007 18:37:

quote:
Originally posted by JonDC
Abelton doesnt 'mix it for you' - you still have to tell it what to do. By excellent mixing, I didn't mean he is good at getting beats in time - thats the only part that Abelton does for you. The exciting thing that PVD does is layer tunes over the top of eachother, giving them a different feel - again if you go back to the example of the Global set, where he plays "need's to feel" over the top of something else, and it just sounds way more energetic. Doing things like that on the fly impresses me more than tight beatmixing, which anyone can learn to do in a couple of years.
+1

I love the way he works that Ableton.

Saw him a few weeks ago for 6 hours and it was absolutely great. He did play that Britney track and the only thing that was good about it was that loud ass kick @ Roseland.

It's not a track ppl should d/l, buy, or even play [unless you are paul].

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