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I really don't fucking care who or what caused it. All that really matters at this point is what we can do to lessen the blow and prevent it from progressing at an insanely fast rate (I quite liked Clovis' bullet comparison). Even if, for some strange reason, we aren't the primary factor we are still certainly an immensely large contributor.

All that "global warming" is to mass media and most of the public at this point is a blame game. It's bullshit and outright moronic. Then again, what else about general society isn't bullshit and moronic these days?

I give it about 10 years before society finally takes serious action.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Good. Fucking. Lawdy. I've been duped! You wanted the names and agendas of those profiting behind global warming, pkc? Here it is: Jews and feminists were merely a distraction. Jellyfish shall inherit the Earth and WE ARE HELPING THEM.

Are all of these organisms suddenly incapable of evolution? Everything I know tells me that the animals that live through the warmness will have offspring that will also tolerate it.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Good. Fucking. Lawdy. I've been duped! You wanted the names and agendas of those profiting behind global warming, pkc? Here it is: Jews and feminists were merely a distraction. Jellyfish shall inherit the Earth and WE ARE HELPING THEM.

i fucking read most of that before seeing your comments you cvnt

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Originally posted by eROs.au Are all of these organisms suddenly incapable of evolution? Everything I know tells me that the animals that live through the warmness will have offspring that will also tolerate it.

In exactly the same way dinosaurs were able to avoid destruction in the presence of a disaster blotting out the sun and causing widespread environmental havoc.

The only things that tend to survive rapid, extreme environmental changes are bacteria and smaller lifeforms that have the tendency to very quickly and predictively mutate. Humans and most other mammals don't, and you can easily see this effect if you go through layers of rock in the Earth.

This is exactly what this study says too, which evaluates how the change in the sea environment (if it progresses at its current rate) will effect lifeforms living there:

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Enhanced biological carbon consumption in a high CO(2) ocean. Riebesell U, Schulz KG, Bellerby RG, Botros M, Fritsche P, Meyerh�fer M, Neill C, Nondal G, Oschlies A, Wohlers J, Z�llner E. Leibniz Institute of Marine Sciences, IFM-GEOMAR, 24105 Kiel, Germany. The oceans have absorbed nearly half of the fossil-fuel carbon dioxide (CO(2)) emitted into the atmosphere since pre-industrial times, causing a measurable reduction in seawater pH and carbonate saturation. If CO(2) emissions continue to rise at current rates, upper-ocean pH will decrease to levels lower than have existed for tens of millions of years and, critically, at a rate of change 100 times greater than at any time over this period. Recent studies have shown effects of ocean acidification on a variety of marine life forms, in particular calcifying organisms. Consequences at the community to ecosystem level, in contrast, are largely unknown. Here we show that dissolved inorganic carbon consumption of a natural plankton community maintained in mesocosm enclosures at initial CO(2) partial pressures of 350, 700 and 1,050 muatm increases with rising CO(2). The community consumed up to 39% more dissolved inorganic carbon at increased CO(2) partial pressures compared to present levels, whereas nutrient uptake remained the same. The stoichiometry of carbon to nitrogen drawdown increased from 6.0 at low CO(2) to 8.0 at high CO(2), thus exceeding the Redfield carbon:nitrogen ratio of 6.6 in today's ocean. This excess carbon consumption was associated with higher loss of organic carbon from the upper layer of the stratified mesocosms. If applicable to the natural environment, the observed responses have implications for a variety of marine biological and biogeochemical processes, and underscore the importance of biologically driven feedbacks in the ocean to global change. PMID: 17994008 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=PubMed&Cmd=ShowDetailView&TermToSearch=17994008&ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

So the smaller organisms will likely be able to adapt

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Originally posted by Fast Turtle In exactly the same way dinosaurs were able to avoid destruction in the presence of a disaster blotting out the sun and causing widespread environmental havoc. The only things that tend to survive rapid, extreme environmental changes are bacteria and smaller lifeforms that have the tendency to very quickly and predictively mutate. Humans and most other mammals don't, and you can easily see this effect if you go through layers of rock in the Earth.

Our release of CO2 in the atmosphere isn't even close to as devastating as an asteroid hitting the earth.

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Originally posted by eROs.au Our release of CO2 in the atmosphere isn't even close to as devastating as an asteroid hitting the earth.

No, but plenty of animals have met extinction from natural, slow climate change.

Ok good. So it's all natural

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Originally posted by eROs.au Our release of CO2 in the atmosphere isn't even close to as devastating as an asteroid hitting the earth.

No, but it is still devastating, and if you want to believe otherwise, fine but you're ignorant.

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Originally posted by jupiterone If you don't edit your post with *imo* you're going to get raped by everyone.

LOL u think i care what ppl on here think? most ppl here are assholes, why would i care. i dont respect ppl who are ignorant and act like an ass, if i dont respect u, i dont care.

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Originally posted by Clovis No, but it is still devastating, and if you want to believe otherwise, fine but you're ignorant.

Life will find a way, or it will not.

My money is on life finding a way. Species go extinct every day, the strong and the cunning and the lucky survive to breed another day. If that is suddenly interrupted, who would be here to miss it?

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN not by me. i agree 100%. it pisses me off immensely when people that aren't climate biologists etc are attempting to throw their opinion into the forum. a forum that they are thoroughly ill-equipped to participate in. thus, if youre a climate expert and don't agree with the general scientific consensus, then by all means express yourself here. otherwise, shut the fuck up.

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Originally posted by Lira Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN not by me. i agree 100%. it pisses me off immensely when people that aren't climate biologists etc are attempting to throw their opinion into the forum. a forum that they are thoroughly ill-equipped to participate in. thus, if youre a climate expert and don't agree with the general scientific consensus, then by all means express yourself here. otherwise, shut the fuck up.

We on agree on something!

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Originally posted by Krypton We on agree on something!

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Originally posted by Krypton We on agree on something!

im sure, once you peel past the superficial layers, we'd probably agree on quite a bit

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On It's nothing more than a myth propagated by feminists and Jews.

that's the holocaust not global warming

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Originally posted by sean5 that's the holocaust not global warming

woosh

Russian women are causing global warming: they're too hot and too near the Poles!

Buya!

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Originally posted by Lira Russian women are causing global warming: they're too hot and too near the Poles! Buya!

If there was ever a quote from here that I have enjoyed, this is it.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN not by me. i agree 100%. it pisses me off immensely when people that aren't climate biologists etc are attempting to throw their opinion into the forum. a forum that they are thoroughly ill-equipped to participate in. thus, if youre a climate expert and don't agree with the general scientific consensus, then by all means express yourself here. otherwise, shut the fuck up.

So does that mean you think man is the blame for global warming?

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Originally posted by ams.rld So does that mean you think man is the blame for global warming?

correct.

The only other possible cause of global warming other than man-made greenhouse gas emissions is increased solar output. Well, this theory has been debunked already..What will the man-made global warming deniers say next?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitem...09/s1740577.htm

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Sun 'not to blame' for global warming The sun's energy output has barely varied over the past 1,000 years, raising chances that global warming has human rather than celestial causes, a study shows. Researchers from Germany, Switzerland and the United States found that the sun's brightness varied by only 0.07 per cent over 11-year sunspot cycles, far too little to account for the rise in temperatures since the Industrial Revolution. "Our results imply that over the past century climate change due to human influences must far outweigh the effects of changes in the sun's brightness," US National Centre for Atmospheric Research spokesman Tom Wigley said. Most experts say emissions of greenhouse gases, mainly from burning fossil fuels in power plants, factories and cars, are the main cause of a 0.6 degrees Celsius rise in temperatures over the past century. A dwindling group of scientists says that the dominant cause of warming is a natural variation in the climate system, or a gradual rise in the sun's energy output. "The solar contribution to warming over the past 30 years is negligible," the researchers wrote in the journal Nature of evidence about the sun from satellite observations since 1978.

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Originally posted by _Nut_ If there was ever a quote from here that I have enjoyed, this is it.

I've found Russian women to be quite enjoyable too

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Originally posted by Krypton The only other possible cause of global warming other than man-made greenhouse gas emissions is increased solar output. Well, this theory has been debunked already..What will the man-made global warming deniers say next? http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitem...09/s1740577.htm

there have been solar flares though, which is what the deniers refer to when they talk about the sun. what's unlucky for them is that the sun hasn't had a big one for more than 20 years, so there's no correlation.

i saw the denier (alan durkin) film (the great global warming swindle) which was made in response to al gore's, and one of australia's top journalists took him to absolute pieces in a special doco. made him look like a fool, and a dishonest fool at that.

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