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Originally posted by RJT \ folks are already well pissed at Musharef, I can't see them taking this well.

The people your talking about are the ones who are lower class,Jobless,uneducated, people who are paid to do these kind of protests and are even paid to come out on the streets and political gatherings to scream slogans these people arent saying what they really feel these people are saying and making it seem like what they are asked to do so by whatever party they are with.


The regular working class or middle class or even higher class is just sitting in there homes watching TV and praying to GOD everything get better so they can go about there normal lives they have given up with this political drama and worry about there own lives and saftey and wont come to the streets knowing how bad the situation is and know how important Musharaf is for Pakistan.

A spokesperson for the al-Qaeda terrorist network has claimed responsibility for the death on Thursday of former Pakistani prime minister Benazir Bhutto.

�We terminated the most precious American asset which vowed to defeat [the] mujahadeen,� Al-Qaeda�s commander and main spokesperson Mustafa Abu Al-Yazid told Adnkronos International (AKI) in a phone call from an unknown location, speaking in faltering English. Al-Yazid is the main al-Qaeda commander in Afghanistan.

It is believed that the decision to kill Bhutto, who is the leader of the opposition Pakistan People's Party (PPP), was made by al-Qaeda No. 2, the Egyptian doctor, Ayman al-Zawahiri in October.

Death squads were allegedly constituted for the mission and ultimately one cell comprising a defunct Lashkar-i-Jhangvi�s Punjabi volunteer succeeded in killing Bhutto.

Bhutto had just addressed a pre-election rally on Thursday in the garrison town of Rawalpindi when the bomb went off.

She had come to Rawalpindi after finishing a rapid election campaign, ahead of the January polls, in Pakistan's volatile North West Frontier Province (NWFP) where she had talked about a war against terrorism and al-Qaeda.

Reports say at least 15 other people were killed in the attack and several others injured.

As news of Bhutto's death spread throughout the country, there are reports that people have taken to the streets to protest the death of the leader of the PPP, which has the largest support of any party in Pakistan.

In the southern port city of Karachi, Bhutto's hometown, residents reportedly threw stones at cars and burnt tyres.


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Lots of people are skeptical about the alleged "claim of responsibility" by Al Qaeda. See here:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast...ref=mpstoryview

the whole thing appears to be a bit fishy. For instance, Benazir Bhutto popped her head out of the car unexpectedly. How did the shooter know she was going to do that ? Secondly, why would a suicide bomber shoot first and then explode ? Makes no sense. Also, how would a man on a suicide mission be able to shoot with a steady hand moments before he was about to detonate himself ? Atypical of Al-Qaeda. At least, that's what they said on FOX

It is sad. It is a symbolic death of democracy in Pakistan. She stood for a movement of democracy in the region, the first woman prime minister, and a good woman. Not only did they kill her, but her brothers, and father all execution style. And 22 people total died with her from the blast, not to mention over 100 who died a short while back, a couple months ago, when they tried to kill her with a bomb then. Sick people who will kill for a cause, to keep a culture dead. Yes, it is sad. And even the comments in this forum are sad. Many simply don't care about the world around them.

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Originally posted by rose her http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benazir_Bhutto

she was hot

RIP

damn you Musharaf!

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Originally posted by nchs09 ah.. are you comparing a juiced up psychotic wrestler who committed suicide to a important political figure which could of helped (or not) a whole country? even though any death is sad, you cant compare both.

I didn't mean benoit, there's been way more deaths than that in wrestling in the last few years, some self inflicted, others not so. My point was that a long time ago i posted about a couple of other 'popular' ones dying and half the responses were laughter or something, so it doesn't surprise me that not everyone is in tears about this, something that has less to do with many of us personally.

I got a bad feeling about the Funeral. If you look at live feed pics, there are literally thousands of people gathering, all squashed in together.
Al Queda probably imagined there would be a mass gathering for mourners and planned for something like this. A couple of suicide bombers at this event would kill/maim large numbers.

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Originally posted by Jackson Al Queda probably imagined there would be a mass gathering for mourners and planned for something like this. A couple of suicide bombers at this event would kill/maim large numbers.

Assuming that Al Qaeda was the group that killed her in the first place...

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Assuming that Al Qaeda was the group that killed her in the first place...

Yeah assuming that.
It just looks very dangerous, u seen the pics?

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Originally posted by Jackson Yeah assuming that. It just looks very dangerous, u seen the pics?

Not sure what pictures you're talking about...

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Originally posted by Omega_M that's what they said on FOX

fox

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Originally posted by UmmiE The people your talking about are the ones who are lower class,Jobless,uneducated, people who are paid to do these kind of protests and are even paid to come out on the streets and political gatherings to scream slogans these people arent saying what they really feel these people are saying and making it seem like what they are asked to do so by whatever party they are with. The regular working class or middle class or even higher class is just sitting in there homes watching TV and praying to GOD everything get better so they can go about there normal lives they have given up with this political drama and worry about there own lives and saftey and wont come to the streets knowing how bad the situation is and know how important Musharaf is for Pakistan.

So what you're saying is that the educated people in Pakistan all love Musharef?



I'm no expert, but I don't think it would be too hard to find evidence to the contrary...

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Originally posted by nchs09 The death of millions of people will have 0 effect on me, yet i still fill pity for them. That is a very cold perspective mate.

I do feel for her family, friends and supporters and if I met any of them I would tell them I am sorry for their loss....just like you or anyone else would say to someone when you find out they have gone through a death.

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Originally posted by Allied Nations i thought we already proved to you her death and rising tension in pakistan would in fact have an impact on your life- princess dianas death was tragic but it didnt have anywhere near the political consequences butto's death will have, that i agree with- do you really not see the point here?

if you are talking about increase fuel prices as previously mentioned then that is a very weak impact in anyone's life.....so we see an increase of like $0.02 a litre for a couple of weeks....that is not an impact in my life....especially since the company I work for pays for my fuel.

If good old Prime Minister Stephen Harper died it would have little affect on my daily life....I would still have to pay taxes, I would still have to work and I would still have to do all the other daily things that I do now. Yeah we would have a new Prime Minister but that would eventually happen anyhow.

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced if you are talking about increase fuel prices as previously mentioned then that is a very weak impact in anyone's life.....so we see an increase of like $0.02 a litre for a couple of weeks....that is not an impact in my life....especially since the company I work for pays for my fuel. If good old Prime Minister Stephen Harper died it would have little affect on my daily life....I would still have to pay taxes, I would still have to work and I would still have to do all the other daily things that I do now. Yeah we would have a new Prime Minister but that would eventually happen anyhow.

Fuck you all with your oil! Pakistan has the 6th population, and the nuclear weapon.

I am not sure about mayan calendar, but if the nuclear weapons fall into wrong hands, we all may perish even before 2012.

Me and my wife are planning to have a baby soon and some times I question my self if we should bring life in between this stupid fucking idiotic archaic fanatic religious believers.

All this really makes me feel low at times.

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Originally posted by d-miurge Fuck you all with your oil! Pakistan has the 6th population, and the nuclear weapon.

I'm more affraid of the U.S. having nuclear weapons then I am of Pakistan and their nuclear weapons.

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced I'm afraid of nations having nuclear weapons

Fixed imo.

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Originally posted by RJT So what you're saying is that the educated people in Pakistan all love Musharef? I'm no expert, but I don't think it would be too hard to find evidence to the contrary...

Yes....Because all the people who are running for the elections have done their damage in their previous terms so.......The situation Pakistan is in right now it needs someone strong like Musharaf to control it.

The educated people look at facts and do a proper SWOT analysis......... On the other hand uneducated people do what they are told to do.They would smiply go and vote for someone just because its from their own caste or last name or alot of their friends are voting for them,not like how they do it in North America.

Pakistan govt. now claims she 'hit her head', no shots were fired.

Bizarre.
She was beautiful and strong.
I'm surprised she lived this long...

Utter shock... but it was to be expected I suppose.

I had tremendous admiration for that lady. R.I.P


Does anyone else think that, given the risk of further destabilizing the country, it might be better to postpone those elections for the time being?

I was quite in love with her to tell you the truth. I have a thing for women with power and grace. I was crushed to say the least.

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Originally posted by LiquidNitrogen I am not sure about mayan calendar, but if the nuclear weapons fall into wrong hands, we all may perish even before 2012. Me and my wife are planning to have a baby soon and some times I question my self if we should bring life in between this stupid fucking idiotic archaic fanatic religious believers. All this really makes me feel low at times.

The ways in which nature can put an abrupt end to our civilization, far outnumber the ways in which we can do it ourselves. At least we have the power to control our own actions and prevent this from happening. Don't speculate about things that you cannot control and don't let them affect your future planning.

i dont know if its been posted in here but her son is supposed to step in her shoes... sort of. hes seen as the leader of the opposition or at least the face of the opposition now that shes not with us.

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Originally posted by wizniz i dont know if its been posted in here but her son is supposed to step in her shoes... sort of. hes seen as the leader of the opposition or at least the face of the opposition now that shes not with us.

He'll take that role after he finishes college. How's that for hookups?

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