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Posted by gumble on Jan-15-2008 22:26:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=friS4OOcdgQ&

This scene has been used before, but its still funny


and also,

quote:
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Consumer electronics maker Toshiba Corp (6502.T: Quote, Profile, Research) said on Monday it is slashing prices of its HD DVD format players by between 40 to 50 percent as major Hollywood studios move to embrace Sony Corp's (6758.T: Quote, Profile, Research) Blu-ray format high definition DVDs.

Toshiba America Consumer Products said it cut prices of its HD DVD players effective January 13 to boost market adoption of its next-generation DVD players by mainstream consumers after what it said was a successful fourth quarter in unit sales.

"While price is one of the consideration elements for the early adopter, it is a deal-breaker for the mainstream consumer," said Toshiba executive Yoshi Uchiyama in a statement.

Toshiba's players will now start as low as $149 going up to $399 for the top-of-range player.

The company said it is also stepping up its marketing drive with major initiatives including joint advertising campaigns with studios and extended pricing strategies. Toshiba said it will continue with on-going promotions including five HD DVD titles for free with any of its HD DVD player.

The battle to dominate the next generation of DVD players appeared to have tipped in Sony's favor earlier this month when the biggest Hollywood studio Warner Bros, a unit of Time Warner Inc (TWX.N: Quote, Profile, Research), said it would exclusively support Blu-ray disc. It had previously supported both next-generation formats.

Analysts saw Warner Bros's move as an end to the next generation DVD war that they say has confused consumers and delayed the development of a multibillion-dollar market.

So far Toshiba has secured agreements with studios including Universal Home Video, Viacom Inc's (VIAb.N: Quote, Profile, Research) Paramount Pictures and DreamWorks Animation SKG.

But Blu-ray has support from News Corp's (NWSa.N: Quote, Profile, Research) 20th Century Fox, Walt Disney Co (DIS.N: Quote, Profile, Research) and Lions Gate Entertainment Corp (LGF.N: Quote, Profile, Research). In addition Sony's PlayStation 3 video game system can play Blu-ray movies while Microsoft Corp's (MSFT.O: Quote, Profile, Research) Xbox 360 works with HD DVD. But Microsoft said at the Consumer Electronics Show earlier this month that it could consider supporting Blu-ray technology should consumers want it.



So if you care about HD DVD winning, go buy a cheap player NOW. Otherwise just wait like normal people until hi-def becomes primary media and theres only one format, its cheap and it works.


Posted by sunrise3500 on Jan-15-2008 22:35:

quote:
Originally posted by gumble
So if you care about HD DVD winning, go buy a cheap player NOW.

except you'll have to order it from the states.
Cheapest player I've seen here is a 2nd generation player, $600. lol, and they go up to $1300.
It's the sony tax.


Posted by christos on Jan-15-2008 22:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Philby
well not really in this case. you said ps3 is moving ahead of xbox 360 and wii in sales. you then posted an article which had a number of sales for ps3 over holidays, but that number is not compared to anything, sales numbers of xbox 360 and wii aren't mentioned, and the article also says that xbox 360 and wii have still sold more than ps3 overall. if the article had numbers for the other consoles and the ps3 had more in the same period then fine. i think i get away with not being stupid this time


i think again, you have missed the point entirely. I was merely stating that sales for the PS3 were the highest over the xmas 07 period in the states. hence why the reality of BR becoming the standard is again reinforced.

lol, academics.


Posted by Philby on Jan-16-2008 12:30:

quote:
Originally posted by christos
i think again, you have missed the point entirely. I was merely stating that sales for the PS3 were the highest over the xmas 07 period in the states. hence why the reality of BR becoming the standard is again reinforced.

lol, academics.


i didnt miss the point at all. i don't really care about blu-ray vs hd-dvd but i thought it was interesting that you said ps3 sales are moving ahead of the other consoles, when i thought they were being consistently outsold by the others. then you posted the article that didn't compare anything and said ps3 is still behind.

lol, people with tiesto number plates.


Posted by christos on Jan-17-2008 00:09:

lol, ps3 have sold over 4 million consoles, therefore 4 million bluray players....read between the lines, you've read enough paragraphs at school i assumed you would have clicked. That was the main point.

lol, tiesto plates are maaaad! esp when you can't own them..


Posted by sunrise3500 on Jan-17-2008 00:55:

quote:
Originally posted by christos
lol, ps3 have sold over 4 million consoles, therefore 4 million bluray players....

not everyone that buys a ps3 uses it as a bluray video player.
everyone that buys a xbox 360 hd dvd is using it to play hd dvds.


Posted by christos on Jan-17-2008 01:19:

lol case in point bird brain is that it is a player IN the home regardless. take less pills, smoke less choof and listen to more psy.


Posted by sunrise3500 on Jan-21-2008 02:31:

*Apparently* in the last week in the US, 85% of HD sales were bluray...
now that is ownage

not sure if that's a change in ratio, or just a lot of new people settled to bluray, but I suppose regardless 85% speaks for itself..

(assuming it's true..)


Posted by christos on Feb-18-2008 02:55:

HDDVD DEAD!!

http://www.livenews.com.au/Articles...new_DVD_dynasty

there you go sunrise, hd-dvd is dead. good luck with your player.


Posted by sunrise3500 on Feb-18-2008 03:56:

Re: HDDVD DEAD!!

quote:
Originally posted by christos
http://www.livenews.com.au/Articles...new_DVD_dynasty

there you go sunrise, hd-dvd is dead. good luck with your player.

it's not dead yet.. although the rumour is they'll make the announcement this week.

so that makes this thread over.. wait not before a whole lot of "HAHAHA SUNRISE HD DVD IS OWNED"

i'm not the only loser, everyone is. the consumer format has lost. just most people are too stupid to realise. it's the only reason why bluray has won/will win. ofcourse the big companies are gonna back who pays them more, and the product which gives them more rights rather than the consumer.
and I don't actually have a HD DVD player.. was going to get one, maybe now ill pick one up in the firesale never will go bluray though.

in closing, say NO to bluray

ps ive been waiting all weekend for someone to post that :P


Posted by christos on Feb-18-2008 04:13:

haha, yeah just thought i'd rub it in, i'm thankful my ps3 is a bluray player, obviously this goes for everyone that owns one. Good times ahead, I can finally get some of my fave flicks in bluray in time.


Posted by sunrise3500 on Feb-18-2008 04:30:

quote:
Originally posted by christos
haha, yeah just thought i'd rub it in, i'm thankful my ps3 is a bluray player, obviously this goes for everyone that owns one. Good times ahead, I can finally get some of my fave flicks in bluray in time.

x264 rips > *


Posted by Aesthetic on Feb-18-2008 04:35:

lol yeah.. a compressed format is certainly > *, including the source...


Posted by gumble on Feb-18-2008 04:56:

sunrise does have a point though, still much easier to download an x264 rip

He's totally wrong about everything else though, of course.


Posted by sunrise3500 on Feb-18-2008 05:01:

yes, obviously the source is always gonna be better than a recompressed version... however, it gets around all the bullshits

quote:
Originally posted by gumble
He's totally wrong about everything else though, of course.

no that's where YOU'RE wrong! hah


Posted by sunrise3500 on Feb-19-2008 06:19:

still not over... w00t

quote:
A brief article published in Hollywood Reporter cited an anonymous source claiming that Toshiba was making plans to exit the HD DVD business... Reuters spread the story around the world due to its syndication agreement with the Hollywood paper.

The initial report was authored by Thomas K. Arnold from HomeMediaMagazine.com, an unabashedly pro-Blu-ray outlet that has published editorials from Arnold entitled, "A Plea for a Unified Blu Future" and "HD DVD Backers Should Call It a Day."

(Toshiba) The company then issued a statement over the weekend saying it "has not made any announcement or decision" to abandon HD DVD.

A Toshiba spokesperson did acknowledge, however, that "We are currently assessing our business strategies, but nothing has been decided at the moment." Toshiba says it has been evaluating the situation ever since Warner Bros. announced on the eve of CES 2008 that it would stop producing movies in the HD DVD format by June. Still, nothing has been decided thus far, the company asserts.


Posted by sunrise3500 on Feb-19-2008 12:51:

and a few hours later.. annouce, they're to stop producing players.. it's effectively over.

http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/2008_02/pr1903.htm

quote:
TOKYO--Toshiba Corporation today announced that it has undertaken a thorough review of its overall strategy for HD DVD and has decided it will no longer develop, manufacture and market HD DVD players and recorders. This decision has been made following recent major changes in the market. Toshiba will continue, however, to provide full product support and after-sales service for all owners of Toshiba HD DVD products.


Posted by Lemonad on Feb-20-2008 06:18:

Let's just rest it at that it was the better format overall... i guess only intellectuals bought HD-DVD... which ultimately failed against Sonys great marketing towards stupid people...

To be fairly honest though, HD-DVD was technically superior aswell which is only going to be matched with Blu Ray profile 2.0... so Blu ray should have failed...
*cough*


Posted by sunrise3500 on Feb-20-2008 06:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Lemonad
Blu Ray profile 2.0...

rendering all current bluray players (bar the ps3) useless.

class action law suit anyone?


Posted by gumble on Feb-20-2008 09:38:

Interesting development.......

quote:
TOKYO - Sony Corp said on Wednesday it will sell its microchip production facilities in western Japan to Toshiba Corp for 90 billion yen ($835 million), in their latest move to focus on their core businesses.

The equipment will be used by their semiconductor joint venture that will make high-performance Cell chips and RSX graphic chips, both used in Sony's PlayStation 3 game console, as well as other microchips that go into Toshiba products.

The venture will be established on April 1.
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Sony, which is focusing on image sensor chips for digital cameras and pulling away from heavy investments for cutting-edge chip production equipment, said in October it would sell production facilities for making key microchips used in the PS3 to Toshiba, but the price has been unavailable.

The announcement on the selling price comes on the heels of Toshiba's decision on Tuesday to abandon its HD DVD high-definition DVD format, ending a prolonged battle with the Sony-led Blu-ray camp.

Toshiba twinned the HD DVD exit with an announcement that it and partner SanDisk Corp would spend $16 billion on two new flash memory plants.

Shares in Sony were up 2.8 percent at 5,150 yen in afternoon trade while Toshiba fell 2.8 percent to 801 yen. The Tokyo stock market's electrical machinery index was down 2.1 percent.




source


Posted by narcism on Feb-21-2008 05:04:


Posted by Philby on Feb-21-2008 12:25:

quote:
Originally posted by narcism



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

funny shit


Posted by sunrise3500 on Feb-21-2008 12:41:

He clearly cheated!


Posted by Aesthetic on Feb-21-2008 21:54:

it's the end result that counts


Posted by batemanscott on Feb-21-2008 22:58:

Thats gold

It's really unfortunate things went the way they did.

Like most people I wanted a single format to hurry up and win (sadly the better format lost) but the fact that Blu ray has won so soon means it will be a while before the prices are more realistic given it was the HD DVD camp that was driving prices down.


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