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Posted by Moongoose on Mar-27-2008 23:24:

I think your thinking of this.






Decent game, interesting concept but in the end didnt do it for me.


Posted by Elior on Mar-28-2008 10:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Moongoose
I think your thinking of this.






Decent game, interesting concept but in the end didnt do it for me.




Yep! That's the game...

and, anyone remember Road Rush ? Spent so many hours with this game..


Posted by david.michael on Mar-31-2008 19:49:

The MARATHON Series

Marathon
Marathon 2: Durandal
Marathon: Infinity



One of the best shooters ever designed for its time. Best player-created-content community I have ever seen. Most developed and complex storyline I have ever seen. Halo's predecessor, pre-Microsoft/Bungie mashup.







Also, some of the most ingenious level-design I've ever seen (by its creators and by end-users) considering the limited capabilities of its "2.5D" engine, by using engine tricks, 5D space, etc.



Not as well known as it could've been since it was a Macintosh only release. (That's right, a Mac-only FPS.) Marathon 2 (only) WAS released for PC and the engine has since been open-sourced and ported across platforms.


Posted by BTG on Apr-01-2008 00:08:



Shodown 2100 AD for the Odyseey 2.

used to play that and the baseball game all the time at my nans house.
i still have the system, i should fix it.


Posted by CONNERMAN2000 on Apr-01-2008 01:26:

quote:
Originally posted by david.michael


Just to let ya know, Marathon has been released on XBLA if you own a 360, so be sure to check that out.


Posted by david.michael on Apr-01-2008 13:11:

quote:
Originally posted by CONNERMAN2000
Just to let ya know, Marathon has been released on XBLA if you own a 360, so be sure to check that out.


Yeah, I saw that... Marathon 2: Durandal, if I recall. I looked at some YouTube footage and it looked completely different. :/ I might check it out anyway though.


Posted by CONNERMAN2000 on Apr-03-2008 00:50:

quote:
Originally posted by david.michael
Yeah, I saw that... Marathon 2: Durandal, if I recall. I looked at some YouTube footage and it looked completely different. :/ I might check it out anyway though.


I played the demo, and I can't really vouch for things that were changed because I never played the original PC version. All I'll say is that those "changes" you noticed were probably to adjust the game to the 360's HD capabilities. I can't tell you for sure, because I don't really know.

Strangely enough, right around the time of Marathon's XBLA release, several reports from gamers throughout started hitting the web about cases of motion sickness. Apparently the game had such a smooth framerate that it was nauseating. How weird is that?

I found a link that speaks of this issue:

http://thexboxdomain.com/2007/08/05...ckness-problem/


Posted by david.michael on Apr-03-2008 13:00:

lol, that's interesting. Definitely wasn't a problem on the old ones.

And yeah, the new game appears to be using 3D models and stuff instead of sprites, so of course it will look different. I'm sure I will still check it out, though. Once I actually get my Live account again.


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Apr-03-2008 15:09:

I got some use out of this one on Genesis, as well as alot of games already mentioned here...which btw is an impressive list






Posted by CONNERMAN2000 on Apr-03-2008 15:53:

Awwww, your pics didn't show, guessing the site doesn't allow direct-linking or whatever its called. What game do you speak of?


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Apr-03-2008 15:56:

quote:
Originally posted by CONNERMAN2000
Awwww, your pics didn't show, guessing the site doesn't allow direct-linking or whatever its called. What game do you speak of?


Populous Who doesn't like being god and starting armegeddon


Posted by CONNERMAN2000 on Apr-03-2008 20:14:

quote:
Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
Populous Who doesn't like being god and starting armegeddon


Can't think of anyone off the top of my head who wouldn't.

I actually rented one of the Populous games on PSone, I think it was called Populous The Beginning. Thing is, I was probably 11 years old when I played it, and I had NO idea what I was doing, so I quickly turned it off and jumped back into mindless Goldeneye. Everyone tells me its a gem of a game, though. I need to give it another shot.


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Apr-03-2008 20:42:

quote:
Originally posted by CONNERMAN2000
Can't think of anyone off the top of my head who wouldn't.

I actually rented one of the Populous games on PSone, I think it was called Populous The Beginning. Thing is, I was probably 11 years old when I played it, and I had NO idea what I was doing, so I quickly turned it off and jumped back into mindless Goldeneye. Everyone tells me its a gem of a game, though. I need to give it another shot.


Ahhh Goldeneye was such a great game. I played through it so many times. Metal mouth (Jaws) was such a bitch to beat. Had to sneak up on him and get the first shot with grenades or he would pwn that ass, lol. You can get the Populous PC version for like $5 at Wally World and try it out.


Posted by Darkarbiter on Apr-10-2008 01:58:

Europa Universalis 3... awesome grand strategy game with great ai and gameplay. It's what the total war campaign should be like.


Posted by CONNERMAN2000 on Apr-10-2008 22:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Darkarbiter
Europa Universalis 3... awesome grand strategy game with great ai and gameplay. It's what the total war campaign should be like.


I remember a buddy of mine had one of the Europa Universalis games, dunno if it was #3 or not. Its definitely a learning-intensive game; you have to fool around with shit for a while to get a hold of what the hell is going on and what you have to do(if I remember correctly...). It's kind of like Civilization, right?


Posted by Darkarbiter on Apr-11-2008 04:42:

quote:
Originally posted by CONNERMAN2000
I remember a buddy of mine had one of the Europa Universalis games, dunno if it was #3 or not. Its definitely a learning-intensive game; you have to fool around with shit for a while to get a hold of what the hell is going on and what you have to do(if I remember correctly...). It's kind of like Civilization, right?

No not really. As I said... its like the total war campaign... except actually decent. You can start at any date (down to the day... and the borders change... as do in some circumstances the countries religion... government type ETC). The most important thing its based on though is that the game finishes reading the history files once you start the game... although there are certain events that will happen ingame if certain perameters are reached (for example if either england or scotland takes over a significant portion of the others land then they will form great britain... or you might play the aztecs and attempt to christianise... or you might decide that protestantism is the best option for you ETC).

but anyway let me explain what you basically do: You play ANY country in the world from the Hindu city state of Bali in the east to the French to the Aztecs (the Aztecs are a lot harder than the French though). You have a certain amount of money you get each year... mostly from taxes from your provinces... or production from your provinces (the types of resources in europe are quite low value... however the stuff in the new world means you can make a killing with production). As well as from sending out merchants. You mainly spend your money on your armies (making new ones or upkeep) or on technological research as well as diplomacy (gifts) and various other more minor things.

The main part of the game however involves basicly declaring war on people and taking their land... meanwhile being nice to everyone and making sure you don't get too big too fast and everyone freaks out, declaring war on you until your back down to a more manageable size. You can also trade and colonise as well as various other things.

It's quite complicated as I said... but not really too hard to learn. The best part is... as I said before... is that in eu3 (unlike eu2) the AI England will attack the AI Scotland... because its a good idea in terms of game mechanics. Not just because they fought historically.

To be honest... civilistation 3 has been quire boring since I found medieval total war/the other total war games(civ 4 isn't much better)... and the total war games have been boring (the campaign part anyway) ever since I found out about EU3. I'm totally against file sharing however word on the street is theres no demo I can find any links to and you can find the full version +xp at a size of only 150mb to try it out.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Apr-11-2008 04:59:

LOL. You made it sound pretty much like civilisation.


Posted by Darkarbiter on Apr-11-2008 07:50:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
LOL. You made it sound pretty much like civilisation.

Well civilisation is generally done on random maps and is a lot less complicated and in general more gamey than historical (not that gamey means better gameplay). So no its not like civilisation... just like how wing commander isn't like halo.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Apr-11-2008 08:04:

oh, im sure its not like civilisation, but you didnt make it sound terribly different check PMs.


Posted by Dervish on Apr-12-2008 02:18:

Played that, it's like running a country. Long long term.

One of my favs was a old mac game. Escape Velocity in what other game can you take over planets get all their money then take out the bounty hunters they send for you?

Well now some, but then none.


Posted by CONNERMAN2000 on Apr-12-2008 02:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Darkarbiter
No not really. As I said... its like the total war campaign... except actually decent. You can start at any date (down to the day... and the borders change... as do in some circumstances the countries religion... government type ETC). The most important thing its based on though is that the game finishes reading the history files once you start the game... although there are certain events that will happen ingame if certain perameters are reached (for example if either england or scotland takes over a significant portion of the others land then they will form great britain... or you might play the aztecs and attempt to christianise... or you might decide that protestantism is the best option for you ETC).

but anyway let me explain what you basically do: You play ANY country in the world from the Hindu city state of Bali in the east to the French to the Aztecs (the Aztecs are a lot harder than the French though). You have a certain amount of money you get each year... mostly from taxes from your provinces... or production from your provinces (the types of resources in europe are quite low value... however the stuff in the new world means you can make a killing with production). As well as from sending out merchants. You mainly spend your money on your armies (making new ones or upkeep) or on technological research as well as diplomacy (gifts) and various other more minor things.

The main part of the game however involves basicly declaring war on people and taking their land... meanwhile being nice to everyone and making sure you don't get too big too fast and everyone freaks out, declaring war on you until your back down to a more manageable size. You can also trade and colonise as well as various other things.

It's quite complicated as I said... but not really too hard to learn. The best part is... as I said before... is that in eu3 (unlike eu2) the AI England will attack the AI Scotland... because its a good idea in terms of game mechanics. Not just because they fought historically.

To be honest... civilistation 3 has been quire boring since I found medieval total war/the other total war games(civ 4 isn't much better)... and the total war games have been boring (the campaign part anyway) ever since I found out about EU3. I'm totally against file sharing however word on the street is theres no demo I can find any links to and you can find the full version +xp at a size of only 150mb to try it out.


Sounds like a hardcore game, one that can't really be played in small spurts but rather through a lot of dedication. Games like that are awesome for some, but I have a short attention span, so chances are I won't want to spend all the time necessary to learn all the tricks of the trade. Sounds like a great game nonetheless.



quote:
Originally posted by Dervish
One of my favs was a old mac game. Escape Velocity in what other game can you take over planets get all their money then take out the bounty hunters they send for you?


I don't think I've EVER heard of that game. Then again, I am not and never have been a Mac owner, so that would explain it.


Posted by Dervish on Apr-12-2008 03:38:

>Explains it<

quote:
Gameplay

Most of the game takes place in a spaceship shown from a third-person overhead perspective. The player has the option of engaging in both combat and trade. Players fly around in one of hundreds of star systems, which are connected to each other by hyperlinks. A spaceship can move between star systems along the hyperlinks by engaging its hyperdrive.

...

The series prescribes very little limitation as to what the player can do. They can choose which missions to follow and which governments to form a good relationship with or to be entirely neutral. They can choose to be a trader or a mercenary or an asteroid miner among a number of things or a combination of several.


Posted by Darkarbiter on Apr-12-2008 06:08:

Well EU3 isn't really that hardcore. It's just hardcore enough to not sell too well... but most gamers (mostly people who play total war) I've talked too don't find it too hard. Apparently it did best of all the games that paradox have made. One of their other games is called Victoria which is set between 1836 and ww1. NOW that is a hardcore game. You have to manage your countries industrialisation... change policies in an attempt to change the type of government your country has (whether you want more liberal... or your going for a radical dictatorship). Try and attract immigrants... or try and stop them from leaving ETC. As well as managing an economy semi properly... where you must either subsidise or tarriff various things (construction of roads... research etc) and where you don't get certain things at tech levels... tech levels just allow them to happen and they require inventers to actually be made avaliable. have never played it though... and apparently it was a commercial flop but theres a lot of fanbois at the forums

Just tried the EU:Rome demo... hmm a bit abstract and boring for me. EU3 is much better IMO. BTW theres an expansion coming out for EU3 really soon where theres missions for various things (e.g. comepleting the reconquista) so that should make the game a fair bit more interesting (apparently the AI actually responds to these things too). Can't wait to play that.


Posted by Audigy7 on Apr-12-2008 18:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Darkarbiter
Well EU3 isn't really that hardcore. It's just hardcore enough to not sell too well... but most gamers (mostly people who play total war) I've talked too don't find it too hard. Apparently it did best of all the games that paradox have made. One of their other games is called Victoria which is set between 1836 and ww1. NOW that is a hardcore game. You have to manage your countries industrialisation... change policies in an attempt to change the type of government your country has (whether you want more liberal... or your going for a radical dictatorship). Try and attract immigrants... or try and stop them from leaving ETC. As well as managing an economy semi properly... where you must either subsidise or tarriff various things (construction of roads... research etc) and where you don't get certain things at tech levels... tech levels just allow them to happen and they require inventers to actually be made avaliable. have never played it though... and apparently it was a commercial flop but theres a lot of fanbois at the forums

Just tried the EU:Rome demo... hmm a bit abstract and boring for me. EU3 is much better IMO. BTW theres an expansion coming out for EU3 really soon where theres missions for various things (e.g. comepleting the reconquista) so that should make the game a fair bit more interesting (apparently the AI actually responds to these things too). Can't wait to play that.


Did you ever play EU2? I think if EU3 had the combat system of EU2 where you don't have the stupid regiment system, it'd be the best strategy game ever. I get so fucking tired of chasing around 1 regiment armies that just instantly retreat making them indestructible. Victoria, though, holy shit. I've been playing that game on and off ever since it came out (something like 3 years ago) and I'm still finding things I didn't know I could do. It didn't sell too well at all, but, no questions asked, it is the deepest game I've ever played and I think that's the reason for the low sales; it's almost too deep at times.

EU:Rome looks pretty good. I'm really dissapointed in the regiment based armies approach they stuck with, but it fits better with this time period thanks to the Crusader Kings-ish(another Paradox game) character system they implemented. I have a big feeling it's going to be a lot like Crusader Kings, though, in the sense that it's going to need about a years worth of patches and tweeks before it becomes the game it should be. But, judging from the demo, it should still be a lot of fun.


Posted by Spam on Apr-15-2008 23:57:

How unknown is "The Incredible Machine"?

Now that's a fun little game right there


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