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where the hell is the great escape remix?

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Originally posted by Palladium where the hell is the great escape remix?

prolly trouble with the record label of Ilse de Lange or something... i liked that remix a lot too, but they dont seem to release it

Is this what we've come to these days, judging tracks before even listening to them?

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Originally posted by 8Wonders Is this what we've come to these days, judging tracks before even listening to them?

I'll bet five thousand dollars that everyone who has said in this thread they expect a poor album will have that suspicion confirmed.

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Originally posted by Palladium where the hell is the great escape remix?

i don't mind dance music become mainstream but, why the hell all these people listen to this cheesy music and call it trance? they're like:

hey! i just heard this new trance album by armin van buuren

is not trance, respect to Armin but is not trance.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I'll bet five thousand dollars that everyone who has said in this thread they expect a poor album will have that suspicion confirmed.

I'd believe it because most people that are flaming the album don't like Armin's work to begin with, but I suppose these days you are guilty until proven innocent!

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Originally posted by Palladium i don't mind dance music become mainstream but, why the hell all these people listen to this cheesy music and call it trance? they're like: hey! i just heard this new trance album by armin van buuren is not trance, respect to Armin but is not trance.

his words have come back to haunt him!

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Originally posted by Stino im still amazed how much effort people do to make themselves look stupid on forums by being sheeps and repeat each other.

you might be referring to me, that's cool. I'm not the first to voice my displeasure with armin and vocal trance i understand. This is pretty much what I think though, and have come to think simply from listening to the music itself, not studying what ishkur and the like have to say.

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Originally posted by 8Wonders I'd believe it because most people that are flaming the album don't like Armin's work to begin with, but I suppose these days you are guilty until proven innocent!

you obviously haven't payed attention. Armin was considored a good producer and DJ back in the days. Though always a better DJ than producer. But still his tracks as such as Blue Fear, the Rising Star production and most of his remixes around 99/2000 were considored really good. Not to be confused with his modern day junk.

The simple truth is that Armin lost his productions skills around 00/01 and lost all sense of reality in his DJing after his early 03 essential mix.

Guaranteed that this album will be rubbish. But I also guarantee that it will sell.


Hell, at least its vocal cheese and not electro.

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Originally posted by 8Wonders I'd believe it because most people that are flaming the album don't like Armin's work to begin with, but I suppose these days you are guilty until proven innocent!

I used to like Armin up until Shivers.

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Originally posted by Palladium where the hell is the great escape remix?

great escape is an awasome track..
thank god its not included to this shitty release..

I like a lot of his older remixes and a few of his tracks, but this shit has gotta stop. Him and ASOT just keep polluting the genre with the same cookie cutter music. Hey everybody, let's throw our hands in the air for 5 minutes and sing about floating on the wind of eternity, that sounds FUN.

I have a few friends that recently got into "trance", mostly ASOT stuff. If I try to play them an older track, even something Armin remixed or made, they say it's boring, repetitive, and that it's not trance. I played them Blue Fear and they said the same thing. That's sad.

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Originally posted by enydo I like a lot of his older remixes and a few of his tracks, but this shit has gotta stop. Him and ASOT just keep polluting the genre with the same cookie cutter music. Hey everybody, let's throw our hands in the air for 5 minutes and sing about floating on the wind of eternity, that sounds FUN. I have a few friends that recently got into "trance", mostly ASOT stuff. If I try to play them an older track, even something Armin remixed or made, they say it's boring, repetitive, and that it's not trance. I played them Blue Fear and they said the same thing. That's sad.

Surprised? The same is being said by TA's over here about ASOT. Many old trance tracks which were good years ago, now simply sound old. But some still sound modern and good. I think that are the real good ones.

Why do so many producers eventually start adding vocals to their tracks? A huge list of producers did e.g. Chicane and Jam & Spoon, so it doesn't surprise me at all. I only hope also non-vocal versions will be produced. Next to that I agree that the number of tracks with vocals could be a lot less.

Not even worth downloading this crap.

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Originally posted by Palladium i don't mind dance music become mainstream but, why the hell all these people listen to this cheesy music and call it trance? they're like: hey! i just heard this new trance album by armin van buuren is not trance, respect to Armin but is not trance.

Oh, and... this thread has it all.

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Originally posted by Trance-MB Why do so many producers eventually start adding vocals to their tracks?

i think it has something to do with the fact that not everyone can get a good vocalist to work with them. a lot of amateur producers would probably want to try out vocals in their tracks but they can't get a good singer to sang to them. so when you finally break through and become big, all the vocalists will be happy to work with you.

vocals will give a track more personality and recognizability, so if you can't create a sound that stands out from the mass, vocals are the easy way to do so.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer Not even worth downloading this crap.

I'm gonna warez it and then delete it, just because.

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Originally posted by a98 vocals will give a track more personality

Imo all these freelance, breathy, pseudo-ethereal vocals are as far away as you can get from anything with "personality". Not to mention the extremely unintresting and cliche lyrics about love, breakup or random nonsense.

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Originally posted by a98 vocals will give a track more personality

Joke of the day. Seriously.

But you have to know that whenever you get introduced to a new style you'll always want to hear the most recent things first, then your curiousity will go to the older stuff.

I don't mind Trance with vocals. But I have to say that most artists who use them don't have composing skills so the tracks suck.

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Originally posted by Dj EntycE But you have to know that whenever you get introduced to a new style you'll always want to hear the most recent things first, then your curiousity will go to the older stuff.

That's certainly not true for everbody. When i set out to explore something new i usually start at the beginning. I don't think i'm the only one.

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Originally posted by a98 so if you can't create a sound that stands out from the mass,

then vocals are a nice way to cover that up (for the mass). I used to like vocal trance a lot and I don't think vocals are what makes a track bad, but nowadays it just seems to be a syptom of a bad trance track.

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Originally posted by SMC Imo all these freelance, breathy, pseudo-ethereal vocals are as far away as you can get from anything with "personality".

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Originally posted by RebeL9 Joke of the day. Seriously.

well duh! you know what i meant. not personality as in more interesting or anything like that, but personality as in something that makes the track easy to spot in a set/club among all the other tracks.

nowadays most of the trance use so much same sounds (weather it's full-on psy or mainstream trance), so when you hear those lyrics you instantly know what the track is. and after you've heard a new track in a club for the first time you probably forget everything about it in the next day, unless it has vocals, you'll remember those.

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