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Originally posted by Fledz A couple of times I've made abput $150-$200 worth of cocktails and shots in one order, and the bastards even took the 5c pieces back as change. I mean ffs, people like that should be shot. On the spot, double barrel shotgun, BAM! Unnatural but necessary fucktard selection (ie elimination).

get out of the food industry if you dont want to rely on tips.

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Originally posted by Zewad i thought about that too... i wonder if in their system than can put comments about the customer

no, but they remember addresses and next time your pizza will be cold, at best. If it doesn't have special sauce in it.

See this thread from today for more info & flaming about tips

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Originally posted by getfoul Don't tip the pizza guy. He chose a job where he wastes his own gas and he expects us to pay EXTRA for his job choice? F that! This is coming from an ex server and bartender, so don't lecture me on tipping. I know full well when someone deserves a tip and when they don't.

THIS. Don't whine about expecting a tip because you chose a job where you're being illegally underpaid.
Good service = tip. It's like respect.


Basically, the FARK thread I mentioned above = 20x big brother of what this thread may become.

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Originally posted by ScuL Dominos sucks so bad.. pile of grease in a cardboard box

And this.

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Originally posted by whiskers THIS. Don't whine about expecting a tip because you chose a job where you're being illegally underpaid. Good service = tip. It's like respect.

Eeeeeeeexactly. I've never tipped a pizza guy, except the couple of times our old newspaper delivery guy when I was a kid (who also happened to live a few houses down) worked for a local pizza chain shortly before he retired.

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Originally posted by bas Delivery charge is totally a tip.

Sometimes. And rarely will all of it go to the driver.

Also, why do people still discuss tipping on the internet? It just makes people furious, time and time again, and no one ever changes their habits because of someone else's point.

That said, I work as a delivery driver, and have for 2.5 years now. YES, I agree the tipping system is stupid. THAT SAID, every culture has their own norms and whatnot, and tipping happens to be one of ours. I make $5/hour before taxes, thats all the people I work for pay me, and the rest is tips. There's no delivery charge, and I get no compensation for gas, wear+tear on my car, etc. So, if someone doesn't tip, I am paying for the gas to get that person their food, and making under minimum wage to do so. Its fucking retarded, but the prices of the food are set with that in mind, if tipping wasn't customary the prices would without a doubt be higher. This system saves the company money as it shifts the cost to the customer. However, it fucking sucks that some people do not understand the unstated but assumed extra cost in the price of all goods delivered.

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Originally posted by mezzir Sometimes. And rarely will all of it go to the driver. Also, why do people still discuss tipping on the internet? It just makes people furious, time and time again, and no one ever changes their habits because of someone else's point. That said, I work as a delivery driver, and have for 2.5 years now. YES, I agree the tipping system is stupid. THAT SAID, every culture has their own norms and whatnot, and tipping happens to be one of ours. I make $5/hour before taxes, thats all the people I work for pay me, and the rest is tips. There's no delivery charge, and I get no compensation for gas, wear+tear on my car, etc. So, if someone doesn't tip, I am paying for the gas to get that person their food, and making under minimum wage to do so. Its fucking retarded, but the prices of the food are set with that in mind, if tipping wasn't customary the prices would without a doubt be higher. This system saves the company money as it shifts the cost to the customer. However, it fucking sucks that some people do not understand the unstated but assumed extra cost in the price of all goods delivered.

I'm not trying to knock you or anything here, but... why work where you get paid shit and have to pay for gas (especially when it's climbing in price)? Why not retail, stock some shelves or something? You'll make minimum wage at least, plus there's less gas and wear/tear on your car involved.

*shrug*

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Originally posted by idoru I'm not trying to knock you or anything here, but... why work where you get paid shit and have to pay for gas (especially when it's climbing in price)? Why not retail, stock some shelves or something? You'll make minimum wage at least, plus there's less gas and wear/tear on your car involved. *shrug*

Oh I make better than minimum wage, and my job is cushy as hell. I'm really not trying to complain . As a matter of fact, I fucking love my job. Just trying to say that while I agree that the system is stupid, if you don't tip on principle, you're in the minority and probably gonna catch some shit for it.

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Originally posted by mezzir Oh I make better than minimum wage, and my job is cushy as hell. I'm really not trying to complain . As a matter of fact, I fucking love my job. Just trying to say that while I agree that the system is stupid, if you don't tip on principle, you're in the minority and probably gonna catch some shit for it.

Aah, alrighty then.

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Originally posted by idoru Aah, alrighty then.

It's pretty much the same as any job, always gotta find things to complain about. Only difference is that people who don't work for tips still like complaining about it

whoever delivers pizza to carl cox is either a lucky mofukka or fucked

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Originally posted by mezzir Sometimes. And rarely will all of it go to the driver. Also, why do people still discuss tipping on the internet? It just makes people furious, time and time again, and no one ever changes their habits because of someone else's point. That said, I work as a delivery driver, and have for 2.5 years now. YES, I agree the tipping system is stupid. THAT SAID, every culture has their own norms and whatnot, and tipping happens to be one of ours. I make $5/hour before taxes, thats all the people I work for pay me, and the rest is tips. There's no delivery charge, and I get no compensation for gas, wear+tear on my car, etc. So, if someone doesn't tip, I am paying for the gas to get that person their food, and making under minimum wage to do so. Its fucking retarded, but the prices of the food are set with that in mind, if tipping wasn't customary the prices would without a doubt be higher. This system saves the company money as it shifts the cost to the customer. However, it fucking sucks that some people do not understand the unstated but assumed extra cost in the price of all goods delivered.

Next time we're getting wings, you're getting a betamax tape as a tip!

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Originally posted by mezzir Oh I make better than minimum wage, and my job is cushy as hell. I'm really not trying to complain . As a matter of fact, I fucking love my job. Just trying to say that while I agree that the system is stupid, if you don't tip on principle, you're in the minority and probably gonna catch some shit for it.

Deliver to any stoned, hot chicks? You know, like in them porno movies. I could see that happening around here.

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Originally posted by Palladium whoever delivers pizza to carl cox is either a lucky mofukka or fucked

Elaborate?

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Originally posted by whiskers Deliver to any stoned, hot chicks? You know, like in them porno movies. I could see that happening around here.

Dude wtf! Two weeks ago I had a delivery to pufton, definitively stoned and good looking chick answers the door and the pleasant smell of marijuana wafts out, check the card and she puts a 2 dollar tip on the credit card, then also hands me a single folded up and mumbles something that sounded like her saying there was weed in there. wouldn't be that unlikely, and why else would she give me an extra single, folded up, aside from the tip on the credit card. anyways, i'm psyched. as she shuts the door i'm turning around and open the bill, nothing. wtf
and like, it was well lit and a sidewalk right there so i know i didn't drop it, but yeah. i think she was too stoned to remember to give me the weed she meant to

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Originally posted by whiskers Elaborate?

he could either give a big tip or eat you

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Originally posted by mezzir Dude wtf! Two weeks ago I had a delivery to pufton, definitively stoned and good looking chick answers the door and the pleasant smell of marijuana wafts out, check the card and she puts a 2 dollar tip on the credit card, then also hands me a single folded up and mumbles something that sounded like her saying there was weed in there. wouldn't be that unlikely, and why else would she give me an extra single, folded up, aside from the tip on the credit card. anyways, i'm psyched. as she shuts the door i'm turning around and open the bill, nothing. wtf and like, it was well lit and a sidewalk right there so i know i didn't drop it, but yeah. i think she was too stoned to remember to give me the weed she meant to

Ha, owned by the Puffton crowd. Puff-ton.
Getting pot for tips sounds like a crazy time.

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Originally posted by whiskers Ha, owned by the Puffton crowd. Puff-ton. Getting pot for tips sounds like a crazy time.

hah between tips and one dude i used to work with bumming cigs off me at work and hooking me up with weed, i had a modest but steady supply for about a year without paying a dime for it
kinda glad too cause in theory i could see myself becoming a stoner but i never go out of my way to get it, if it falls in my lap then sure, but otherwise, i can do without just fine.

I think this thread and everyone before it makes it clear that how much if at all to tip is a very localised thing. Each nationality seems to have its own way to go about it. In the UK it seems fairly similar to the aussi way, whereby if you have had ok service its upto the person to tip but on the whole you will only tip if you have had excellent service which in my opinion is about right. The American way of tipping being basically part of their wages is utter bollocks. The company they work for should be paying more if thats the case, they shouldn't have to rely on the publics generosity to pay their staff a reasonable amount because thats just ludicrous

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Originally posted by tubularbills most places do have a delivery charge. it was rare to find ones even in a college town that didn't have one.

Our local place has minimum order of �10 (used to be �8 but the fuel prices have gone up 20% in the last year alone, and probably 50% over 3/4 years) and when we order, we usually surpass that, mostly cos my brother orders a huge pizza. We tip the driver a bit, usually when it's come quick (sometimes 15 mins from ordering it'll turn up) and if they're cheerful & nice. won't be a huge tip, just something to say thanks.

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Originally posted by DRM I think this thread and everyone before it makes it clear that how much if at all to tip is a very localised thing. Each nationality seems to have its own way to go about it. In the UK it seems fairly similar to the aussi way, whereby if you have had ok service its upto the person to tip but on the whole you will only tip if you have had excellent service which in my opinion is about right. The American way of tipping being basically part of their wages is utter bollocks. The company they work for should be paying more if thats the case, they shouldn't have to rely on the publics generosity to pay their staff a reasonable amount because thats just ludicrous

Indeed mate. I feel sorry for the people in the states who have to try to earn a living in that kinda business.

I used to deliver pizzas.

The delivery fee is not a tip. The driver doesn't see any of that. It's complete horse shit that every pizza chain added on to screw the customer out of a few more dollars and fuck over the pizza driver.

And for the record, not tipping the driver is a great way to get your next pizza either cold, late as fuck, or with some extra toppings. I'm serious when I say this, do NOT fuck with pizza delivery drivers.

If you don't want to tip the driver, don't order delivery. Go get the fucking pizza.

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Originally posted by nchs09 get out of the food industry if you dont want to rely on tips.

I'm still at uni, with this semester and the next left before I can move into a full time job. You think I'm that stupid to stay in Hospitality forever? Fuck that right off, it would be terrible as a full time job.

Oh and when it comes to tipping and foreigners, Yanks are great. Most Yanks on holiday tip and they tip well, so do the Canucks. As for the Brazilians, fuck you. Fuck you all.

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Originally posted by CyclonesWorld I used to deliver pizzas. The delivery fee is not a tip. The driver doesn't see any of that. It's complete horse shit that every pizza chain added on to screw the customer out of a few more dollars and fuck over the pizza driver. And for the record, not tipping the driver is a great way to get your next pizza either cold, late as fuck, or with some extra toppings. I'm serious when I say this, do NOT fuck with pizza delivery drivers. If you don't want to tip the driver, don't order delivery. Go get the fucking pizza.

Didn't get tipped much?

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Originally posted by tubularbills no you jerkass you still have to tip.

why?

tipping is up to the customer. Does not matter how good or bad the service was. It is a show of generosity.

I valet park cars as a side job and out of a couple hundred cars I park(over a couple days) I will get a stiff. So mathematically that is less that 1%. Do I cry? Maybe at the moment in time when I get stiffed but when I look back I realize
1. some people are cheap and some are not
2. Maybe I did a bad job
3. Maybe they had no cash and felt bad saying so
4. Had a big bill and did not want to break it
Well this list can go on and on so why worry in the end when I already know I will lose less than 1% of tips anyhow.

Now I don't think all those things I just think in my mind no tip = scumbag but then the next car comes and its back to square one

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Originally posted by Trancealot tipping is up to the customer. Does not matter how good or bad the service was. It is a show of generosity. I valet park cars as a side job and out of a couple hundred cars I park(over a couple days) I will get a stiff. So mathematically that is less that 1%. Do I cry? Maybe at the moment in time when I get stiffed but when I look back I realize 1. some people are cheap and some are not 2. Maybe I did a bad job 3. Maybe they had no cash and felt bad saying so 4. Had a big bill and did not want to break it Well this list can go on and on so why worry in the end when I already know I will lose less than 1% of tips anyhow. Now I don't think all those things I just think in my mind no tip = scumbag but then the next car comes and its back to square one

this is exactly one thing that has been pointed out to me on numerous occasions by friends from around the world. people in the USA seem to think they have an entitlement to so many things that arent even up to them. a tip is not required, but it is encouraged. there are actually a lot of places around the world, that if you tip they will return your tip. its just not customary.

theres also the fact that the driver makes ass wages and with gas to consider, tips are a very important addition to their pay.

i always tip well, and i am chronically broke as shit. if i cant tip well, i order ahead and go pick it up myself.

simple.

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Originally posted by wizniz theres also the fact that the driver makes ass wages and with gas to consider, tips are a very important addition to their pay. i always tip well, and i am chronically broke as shit. if i cant tip well, i order ahead and go pick it up myself. simple.

yessss. this is how i do it


Also, lets keep this just to delivery for arguments sake, cause I have a friend who works valet, and he gets a larger average tip compared to me for doing a tiny fraction of the work I do.

Made $77 in tips in 3 hours last night, lol.

BTW Pizza hut reimburses you some money for every delivery you make, regardless of the distance. Banking money off that, gas efficient car ftw.

And yes you can add notes to someone's address...very useful .

Only thing I'm worried about is the wear and tear on my car. I asked some of the veterans there and they said they only put about 14k on their car in one year, which is about 2k more than usual drivers. Not bad...

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