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hawks and celts going to game 7. this is nuts. at least now i don't feel so pissed about vegas not accepting my bet for the celtics.

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Originally posted by jonze hawks and celts going to game 7. this is nuts. at least now i don't feel so pissed about vegas not accepting my bet for the celtics.

If the celtics lose Orlando would have a good shot as long as DH does his 20/20 thing. They do have a strong line up but there always is a but when it comes to orlando. Well see in a week or two.

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Originally posted by Trancealot If the celtics lose Orlando would have a good shot as long as DH does his 20/20 thing. They do have a strong line up but there always is a but when it comes to orlando. Well see in a week or two.

i like orlando but i think detroit is going to end up coming out the east if the celtics lose

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Originally posted by jonze i like orlando but i think detroit is going to end up coming out the east if the celtics lose

orlando matches up well except playoff exp. Orlando handled well in the first and pistons did not. Hmmmmmmm something to think about.

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Originally posted by Trancealot I did not watch the game due to some work ughh but I am sure Darius Songaila not playing due to the so called face slap caused the wizards to get wrecked. esp.@home. on the flip side only thing keeping lebron from real deal HOF status is one ring. With his team comparing to last year. LOL he will have to get quardruple doubles this time

Eh, it wasn't worth watching. Least fun game to go to EVER. The Wizards just gave up on defense about halfway through the third quarter when they got down by double digits. I mean, they didn't even try to get out on Wally on the perimeter. Really lackluster performance.

But one comment:

I lost all respect I may have ever had for LeBron James as a player. He may be one of the most talented athletes to ever play the game, but the way he handles himself on the court is appalling. He constantly jaws at his own teammates, chewing them out whenever he has to take a bad shot. I'll give credit where credit is due and say he did look to pass more in this game - one reason I think the Cavs played so much better - but his ability to take a terrible shot and still chew out a teammate is unparalleled in any athlete I've ever watched in person.

Also, the way he whines and moans at the refs throughout the game is so tiring. You may have seen on TV that the Verizon Center was handing out mock 23 jerseys that said "Crybaby" - he definitely lived up to that name once again tonight. Any time he got bumped, whether incidental or not, he'd go straight to the refs. He'd ham it up as well - the worst example was when he lowered his shoulder and went into Antawn Jamison to shoot a shot - his shoulder caught Jamison square in the jaw, but it was LeBron who made a great show of pain! And the eye thing - give me a break. I've never seen someone so unabashedly fake an injury since watching the Italians play in the World Cup.

Despite his unbelievable skill and athletic ability, the guy is nowhere near ready to be a leader, and the talk about Hall of Fame is laughable - he needs to grow up first. Say what you will about DeShawn Stevenson, but he doesn't plead his case to the officials after every call that doesn't go his way, and he certainly doesn't chew out his teammates for his own mental lapses.

I've said it once and I'll say it again, if I were going to build an NBA franchise around just one player, LeBron would not be on my top 5 list of candidates for the job.

Gah, what a disappointing night.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Least fun game to go to EVER. DeShawn Stevenson LeBron would not be on my top 5 list of candidates for the job.

Interesting comments but!!!! hmmm damn lost my mind ok..

-you went to the game?? if so nice but sucks they lost

-Unfortunately I don't watch the NBA like I used to and even if I am sure Desahwn Stevenson would not compute in my NBA knowledge. Unless he played like Chris paul who I never heard of until this year as well.

-Blame David Stern. He loves good ol lebron and his winning ways.
When he see lebron he see MJ and guess what that means = $$ so until he sucks stern is riding the Lebron train right now. Personally if I got yelled at by a super star and we still won its better than gettting yelled at and losing!(i.e. see kobe bryant last year) he is soo happy he got his sibling team mate to help out gasol)

chris paul was a pretty good pg during his college days. i didn't think he would turn out this well. there's only a couple players besides lebron that i can think of to build a team around for the next 7 or 8 years. chris paul is one and dwight howard is the other. i think a lot of it depends on where you want to start. some teams feel like having a dominate big man is the most important while others strive for that dynamic pg. when lebron came into the league i was rooting for him to fail because i hate when the media hypes up athletes like that (see michelle wei). but he's developed pretty well in a shitty system with not a lot around him. i think the only thing he needs is a veteran or coach to set him straight on how to be a leader, but his game is at the right level.

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Originally posted by jonze chris paul was a pretty good pg during his college days. i didn't think he would turn out this well. there's only a couple players besides lebron that i can think of to build a team around for the next 7 or 8 years. chris paul is one and dwight howard is the other. i think a lot of it depends on where you want to start. some teams feel like having a dominate big man is the most important while others strive for that dynamic pg. when lebron came into the league i was rooting for him to fail because i hate when the media hypes up athletes like that (see michelle wei). but he's developed pretty well in a shitty system with not a lot around him. i think the only thing he needs is a veteran or coach to set him straight on how to be a leader, but his game is at the right level.

Oh I agree that he is a dominant player, but in a franchise player you want someone who can make his teammates better as well. Someone who can lead. And after six years in the NBA, LeBron still acts like a baby.

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Originally posted by Trancealot -Unfortunately I don't watch the NBA like I used to and even if I am sure Desahwn Stevenson would not compute in my NBA knowledge. Unless he played like Chris paul who I never heard of until this year as well.

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You'd never heard of Chris Paul?? I will give you that Stevenson had vastly underperformed since getting so much hype when he was drafted a few years ago, but he had a very solid season in Washington this year - 12 pts, 3 asts, 3 rebs per game and shooting ~40% from three point. His defense is also probably the best on the team. I've heard him compared to a young, more powerful and gritty Ray Allen.

some tidbits

1. Rockets can't make it out the first round
-sucks for aldeman first year there.

2. Wizards can't make it out of the first round again
-gilbert was hurt too much and they played their fav opponent again(sarcasim)

3. Sun and Dallas(Waste in the playoffs)
-Suns president pissed I bet and you already know how cuban felt
-kudos to the hornets and coach

4. Celtics could have won 70 and they still would of got a game 7 against an 8 seed
-there is a difference b/w the season and the playoffs. Some are hungry and some are not.

5. Spurs love the playoffs
-Karl malone should of joined them instead of the lakers to win his only ring before he got hurt and left

since it's nba playoff times, lets go back 11 years ago to probably one of the best playoff series ever : 1997 western conf finals : rockets vs jazz

game 4 (eddie johnson's GW 3):


game 6(john stockton's GW 3):

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Originally posted by LeopoldStotch since it's nba playoff times, lets go back 11 years ago to probably one of the best playoff series ever : 1997 western conf finals : rockets vs jazz

memories
I won't post the you tube video due to losing my self respect

I miss chalres Barkely. He had the best 15-17 foot shot I ever seen.
Now I see him and dwade wade on those fav5 crap commericals
I think I saw greg ostertag . Damn this is old

PS. KOME won the MVP. We can all rest now!

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Originally posted by Trancealot 5. Spurs love the playoffs -Karl malone should of joined them instead of the lakers to win his only ring before he got hurt and left

That's the absolute truth.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Eh, it wasn't worth watching. Least fun game to go to EVER. The Wizards just gave up on defense about halfway through the third quarter when they got down by double digits. I mean, they didn't even try to get out on Wally on the perimeter. Really lackluster performance. But one comment: I lost all respect I may have ever had for LeBron James as a player. He may be one of the most talented athletes to ever play the game, but the way he handles himself on the court is appalling. He constantly jaws at his own teammates, chewing them out whenever he has to take a bad shot. I'll give credit where credit is due and say he did look to pass more in this game - one reason I think the Cavs played so much better - but his ability to take a terrible shot and still chew out a teammate is unparalleled in any athlete I've ever watched in person. Also, the way he whines and moans at the refs throughout the game is so tiring. You may have seen on TV that the Verizon Center was handing out mock 23 jerseys that said "Crybaby" - he definitely lived up to that name once again tonight. Any time he got bumped, whether incidental or not, he'd go straight to the refs. He'd ham it up as well - the worst example was when he lowered his shoulder and went into Antawn Jamison to shoot a shot - his shoulder caught Jamison square in the jaw, but it was LeBron who made a great show of pain! And the eye thing - give me a break. I've never seen someone so unabashedly fake an injury since watching the Italians play in the World Cup. Despite his unbelievable skill and athletic ability, the guy is nowhere near ready to be a leader, and the talk about Hall of Fame is laughable - he needs to grow up first. Say what you will about DeShawn Stevenson, but he doesn't plead his case to the officials after every call that doesn't go his way, and he certainly doesn't chew out his teammates for his own mental lapses. I've said it once and I'll say it again, if I were going to build an NBA franchise around just one player, LeBron would not be on my top 5 list of candidates for the job. Gah, what a disappointing night.

How do you even still watch the NBA? You just described 99% of its players

Bitter much?

Edit: And @ your complaining about Lebron yet unabashed love of Deshawn.

Seriously Jeff - this is going to be like you and I and the NFL all over again.

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Originally posted by Zild That's the absolute truth.

good thing you live there or else
*punches fist to open hand repeadily

RJT: Leb is just in denial the wizards lost.
Cue COR type thread lol.

Do you want to add lebron to the flop list like reggie and karl malone ? when he gets touch he crys foul. What do you excpect with the back and forth talk. Just play but wizards are the ones who said "lebron can be beaten" in the first place; well until next year I guess..

Quote from end of game one recap:
"Determined to shut up trash-talking Washington guard DeShawn Stevenson, who had called him "overrated" last month"
Game one recap

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Originally posted by LeopoldStotch since it's nba playoff times, lets go back 11 years ago to probably one of the best playoff series ever : 1997 western conf finals : rockets vs jazz

i've never seen two teams fight so hard for the chance to lose to jordan.

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Originally posted by Trancealot good thing you live there or else *punches fist to open hand repeadily

I love my Spurs so much I even support Tottenham Hotspur. I always try to tell people that the regular season is all about resting key players, developing your bench, and trying out various strategies. The playoffs are when you actually need to show up and play because winning 70 games does not compare to winning a championship. Ten seasons of winning the most games in the league doesn't hold a candle to one championship season.

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Originally posted by Zild I love my Spurs so much I even support Tottenham Hotspur. I always try to tell people that the regular season is all about resting key players, developing your bench, and trying out various strategies. The playoffs are when you actually need to show up and play because winning 70 games does not compare to winning a championship. Ten seasons of winning the most games in the league doesn't hold a candle to one championship season.

It all starts with the coaching.
So few good ones left
Popovich > Sloan > Aldeman>rest of NBA coaches(Phil J does not count )
and then up to what happens on the floor

When I was at the Spurs Vs the Knicks. It reminded be of when UNC played SUNY Buffalo. Buffalo was up the entire game by a few(somehting that would never happen) and at the very very end lose. Thats what exp. vs inexp is all about.

<3 Pop

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Originally posted by jonze i've never seen two teams fight so hard for the chance to lose to jordan.

those were the good ol' days when players fought tooth and nail for every ball....

anyways, when the playoffs started, i thought the sixers-pistons series would go 7, but wouldn't figure the hawks-celtics series to go 7. atlanta proving you don't need experience to win a tough series, just adversity, youth, and the will to win. game 6 had it all.

spurs-hornets tonight. i see the spurs taking this in 6. spurs taking at least 2 in new orleans, and the hornets taking at least 1 in san antonio imo. cp3 vs the frenchman. the big fundamental vs the dentist. the argentinan big man vs tyson chicken mcnuggets. the argentinan 2 step vs mo pete. should be a good series!

as for the magic vs pistons, this looks to be another headscratcher series. if turkoglu,lewis, and howard can manage at least 60 points between them, i see the magic winning this in 6. otherwise, pistons in 6. d-ho vs ra-weed. mr. big shot vs that guy from st. joes. that turkish guy vs mr long arms. the masked man vs some guy named rashard. should be a good series!

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Originally posted by RJT How do you even still watch the NBA? You just described 99% of its players Bitter much? Edit: And @ your complaining about Lebron yet unabashed love of Deshawn. Seriously Jeff - this is going to be like you and I and the NFL all over again.

Eh, I disagree - LeBron is a lot worse than any of the other truly great NBA players.

And as for DeShawn, I certainly don't love him - I think he's a narcissistic prick, but he is a good role player and did what he could to get the Wizards fan base energized this season.



Edit: In any case, the Wizards aren't even close to being my team... I just love Gilbert. So you guys can continue to rip on them all you'd like and I'm not going to get riled up about it.

Also, Brett Favre still sucks.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov So you guys can continue to rip on them all you'd like and I'm not going to get riled up about it. Also, Brett Favre still sucks.

well I don't rip them. I talk about the truth using facts about them. You do as well but then you say "If healthy I'd say 55 and Finals"

Lebron thing: no one and I mean no one allows an NBA player to be that good without talent and hard work. If Lebron is worse than alot of great players then what does these stats say
07-08 30pts,7.9 rebounds,7.2 assists this season!!!
Carrer: 27.3P,6.6R,6.6A
side note: Jordan carrer: 30.1p,6.2R,5.3A
If his team was in first place in the east he def be a shoe in for MVP. IMO without championships he won't ever be close to MJ.

-Damn Orlando tonight lol
-If NO wins this series they might be the new kids on the block! If not Zild will be happy as usually.

PS. Bret farve sucks!! If I only watched the NFL enough to argue that well but I can't. NFL ticket is on order right now cause of that comment

extra credit

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Also, Brett Favre still sucks.

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Originally posted by Trancealot PS. Bret farve sucks!!

it's funny how brett favre is coming up in a NBA thread

brett favre

i've made my contribution.

but hawks-celtics today. if the hawks do win, it would possibly be the biggest upset in the past 20 years. we are talking about a team below 500, winning a series against the best team in the conference. i see a very bright future ahead of atlanta. kudos to management putting this team together.

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Originally posted by LeopoldStotch brett favre i've made my contribution. but hawks-celtics today. if the hawks do win, it would possibly be the biggest upset in the past 20 years. we are talking about a team below 500, winning a series against the best team in the conference. i see a very bright future ahead of atlanta. kudos to management putting this team together.

i thought atlanta was nuts for the contract they offered joe johnson but i guesss they're proving me wrong.

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