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Posted by enydo on Apr-25-2008 20:55:

Well yeah, I know sodas bad. Why do you think I tried to quit.

It's just the cheapest and most easily accessible drink on campus, outside of our tapwater which is absolute piss.

Posted by nchs09 on Apr-25-2008 21:00:

quote:
Originally posted by bananas
the idiots the idiots
are taking over.....

Posted by nchs09 on Apr-25-2008 21:01:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
Maybe you're a special exception cause I know people that turn into the meanest sons of bitches if they don't get their coffee fix. It's pathetic.

Stupid "crack"heads
I only drink it for socializing. Sit with my dad and drink a cup of coffee in the afternoon or with me mum. Very rare that i drink it alone.

Posted by Gen3r4l1ty on Apr-25-2008 21:17:

quote:
Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
I dunno, I don't think its having an actual addiction to caffeine, but its more of a routine that one develops thats the addiction. In this case, waking up and brewing a cup of coffee, then get dressed, yada yada. I was a huge soda drinker for years and thought it was due to the caffeine, but I cleaned up my diet and really haven't craved any. I drink water, and I pop a caffeine pill only when I'm tired.

While it is true that routine helps to make it a psychological addiction, caffeine itself is proven to be physically addictive.

Some info
and.
More good resources linked here.
(I know... I got lazy)

As far as the soda thing goes... you have to consider that the average soda only has 25-30 mgs of caffeine, compared to the typical 100-200 found in a cup of drip coffee.

Posted by Lomeli on Apr-26-2008 03:50:

I just wanna be able to smoke weed down the street and not give a FUCK!

Posted by d-miurge on Apr-26-2008 03:51:

pot si cool but i'm so funfeikiing drunk rignht nwwow!

Posted by bucke on Apr-26-2008 04:25:

you're all a bunch of fucking potheads.

.....especially clovis.

Posted by Jake Benson on Apr-26-2008 07:34:

I think personal possession of pot has been decriminalized in the city of West Hollywood for a while now.

Posted by elFreak on Apr-26-2008 07:38:

they should legalize pot and ban koreans.

fuck id kill for a smoke.

srsly

Posted by Jake Benson on Apr-26-2008 07:49:

quote:
Originally posted by elFreak
they should legalize pot and ban koreans.

NO way dude. Korean food is AWESOME. They have to stay.

Posted by elFreak on Apr-26-2008 07:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson
NO way dude. Korean food is AWESOME. They have to stay.

go to korea and tell me the shit they eat is awesome. oh my fucking god you have no clue how dirty they are. think cheesy smegma cock but replace cock with mystery animal.

legalize weed...ban koreans.

hint: chinese food in china is nothing like chinese food ion the states.same applies to kim jong and co.

Posted by LoveHate on Apr-26-2008 09:06:

i vote for it to remain illegal...

i mean look at how much more it will cost if it becomes legal?

plus MTV and eveyone will be trying to get in on it, and the whole thing quality wise will go down couple notches..

just keep it the way it is..

plus hippies will have nothing to protest about on 4/20

edit// well here in vancouver, you can smoke it anywhere and the cops wont give two shits so i may not be speaking for everyone.

Posted by RandomGirl on Apr-26-2008 10:23:

I really don't think people have truly thought it all the way through.

Would you be comfortable having a pilot flying your plane after he just smoked a bowl? Would you think it is safe for people to be blitzed while driving (and please don't give me the "I drive better stoned" shit... ok maybe you do but not everyone does.)? Would you be ok with half baked morons wandering around, and not paying attention to what they are doing all the time?

MOST of the population has a requirement to be productive in someway for a majority of their waking time. Either a job, or schooling usually.

Weed really doesn't do much to perpetuate productivity - in fact it usually severely hinders it. Now the gov't certainly can't force people to only use it during their off-time if they choose to make it legal. This will put the society at risk for stoners all over feeling comfortable enough to blaze at any time, including during the hours in which they should be productive. Put two and two together... you get a lot of people not doing shit all, or you get a lot of rules from institutions stating that it is banned anyway.

Since we don't really have a proper way of testing the level of intoxication from THC (like a breathalyser for alcohol), there will be mandatory drug testings, and things like driving under the influence cannot be monitored much at all.

Not to mention that weed isn't as "clean" as it once was. Weed can really fuck you up these days... and not in a good way.

Sure, legalizing it and letting the gov't control it could change that... but then you have companies adding shit to it to make it addictive, or taxing the hell out of it, or putting specific requirements on it... blah blah blah.

This is a hindrance more than it is a benefit. The cons in my opinion seriously outweigh the pros to actually legalizing it.

At this point, people smoke it anyway if they really want to, and most don't get caught, or if they do, it's a warning or a small fine. At least with it not being legal, people are taking precautions by not being fucked off their asses when they shouldn't be.

P.S. THC isn't as harmless as a lot of people like to think.

Posted by nchs09 on Apr-26-2008 12:27:

Posted by Darkarbiter on Apr-26-2008 13:00:

Posted by nchs09 on Apr-26-2008 13:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Darkarbiter
+1 fucking stupidest post I have ever seen.

Right... because holland is like some kind of post apocalyptic warzone at the moment? Society has totally broken down.

ARE YOU HIGH?
She is like a dog that humps your leg. Doesn't matter how many times you try to kick it off, she keeps coming back. I really wish she would fuck off. Not only for that post, but for every single one she makes.

Posted by Darkarbiter on Apr-26-2008 13:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Theresa
P.S. I have had a bad experience with THC that most likely is not directly related with THC and or have been listening to some American propaganda
FIXED imo

I like how your post has wild and or stupid claims and then ends with something post script that might actually be mildly intelligent.

Posted by infinity HiGH on Apr-26-2008 15:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Theresa
Not to mention that weed isn't as "clean" as it once was. Weed can really fuck you up these days... and not in a good way.

You know; if you're gonna go on a rant about something you better be fairly familiar with it.

Posted by UmmiE on Apr-26-2008 16:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Darkarbiter
+1 fucking stupidest post I have ever seen. I'm sorry but any argument where you could substitute weed for alcohol is automatically invalid.

You know why its automatically invalid because you dont have an argument for it......how is it safe for people to go about their everyday lives while drunk out of their minds and not know what happened last night while when your stoned your completely conscious.....and know whats going on.....I fucking smoke everyday almost and not just one spliff or two I literally smoke up to 4-6 a day no jokes.....But yet I carry on with my life and go to work and school ....I drive most of the time when im high and yes its a fact that I drive better when stoned but when not i drive fast and over speed cut lanes like in a high speed chase.

Weed > Alcohol in many ways and will be regardless.

Posted by Krypton on Apr-26-2008 17:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Theresa
I really don't think people have truly thought it all the way through.

Would you be comfortable having a pilot flying your plane after he just smoked a bowl? Would you think it is safe for people to be blitzed while driving (and please don't give me the "I drive better stoned" shit... ok maybe you do but not everyone does.)? Would you be ok with half baked morons wandering around, and not paying attention to what they are doing all the time?

MOST of the population has a requirement to be productive in someway for a majority of their waking time. Either a job, or schooling usually.

Weed really doesn't do much to perpetuate productivity - in fact it usually severely hinders it. Now the gov't certainly can't force people to only use it during their off-time if they choose to make it legal. This will put the society at risk for stoners all over feeling comfortable enough to blaze at any time, including during the hours in which they should be productive. Put two and two together... you get a lot of people not doing shit all, or you get a lot of rules from institutions stating that it is banned anyway.

Since we don't really have a proper way of testing the level of intoxication from THC (like a breathalyser for alcohol), there will be mandatory drug testings, and things like driving under the influence cannot be monitored much at all.

Not to mention that weed isn't as "clean" as it once was. Weed can really fuck you up these days... and not in a good way.

Sure, legalizing it and letting the gov't control it could change that... but then you have companies adding shit to it to make it addictive, or taxing the hell out of it, or putting specific requirements on it... blah blah blah.

This is a hindrance more than it is a benefit. The cons in my opinion seriously outweigh the pros to actually legalizing it.

At this point, people smoke it anyway if they really want to, and most don't get caught, or if they do, it's a warning or a small fine. At least with it not being legal, people are taking precautions by not being fucked off their asses when they shouldn't be.

P.S. THC isn't as harmless as a lot of people like to think.

We have laws restricting drunk driving, flying, and boating. Why can't the same be done for marijuana? Who cares if someone is half-baked? If they aren't a danger to you, you shouldn't care. Productivity-wise, are people showing up drunk all the time to work? Maybe in a very VERY few cases, but the majority of people know they should not show up to work drunk or high. Productivity will not fall. Alcohol and cars have been around for more than 100 years. Were there breathalyzers back in the 1920's, 30's, 40's etc.? No. Technology will quickly meet the demand for a device which detects marijuana on the breath or something of the sort. Marijuana is stronger today of course. But as with any cash crop, it is in the growers best interest to grow the best plant possible. No one's adding angel dust to weed for god's sake...

A lot of people, particularly the conservative kind, are scared by too many assumptions about marijuana. It's just my belief that a lot of these assumptions have no basis behind them. Is it bad for the lungs, yes. Does it impede motor skills, yes. But like the substances which are legal and used by many people, there are laws to curtail the possibility of danger caused by the drug, such as intoxicated driving.

You also have to think about the criminal element of the drug trade. Because marijuana is illegal, it is sold by black market drug dealers. Now, in many cases, drug dealers are not only selling marijuana, but also cocaine, or meth, or whatever. This helps the DEA assertion that marijuana is a "gateway" drug, when it really is not. Also, people die from the commerce of illegal drugs, when cartels or gangs battle for territory. It is just much better for society to be open and free about marijuana. Keep fighting against the hard drugs though...

Posted by jupiterone on Apr-26-2008 17:18:

i don't really care if it's legalized or not. even if it stays criminalized it's not going to stop me from smoking, seriously

i do things based upon how i view them, not based upon the opinion and legality instituted by a couple of guys sitting behind a desk.

based on personal experience, i have had nothing but fun and peaceful times with friends who have been high, i can't say the same for when they're drunk. i'm pretty sure a number of people here can say the same thing.

Posted by RandomGirl on Apr-26-2008 21:04:

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
Are you fucking retarded? Alcohol is legal but its illegal for them to drink before flying. Same rules would apply for pot. Its illegal to operate any vehicle while intoxicated.

Now shut the fuck up. Jesus you are a tard.

Did you not read the part where I said that it would have to be monitored?

quote:
Originally posted by RandomGirl

Since we don't really have a proper way of testing the level of intoxication from THC (like a breathalyser for alcohol), there will be mandatory drug testings, and things like driving under the influence cannot be monitored much at all.

Not to mention that weed isn't as "clean" as it once was. Weed can really fuck you up these days... and not in a good way.

So what... we're going to do a drug test and send it to the lab each time there is a suspicion that the person had been smoking up? That can take weeks to get the results back... what do you suppose they do in the meantime?

Krypton, they might be able to come up with something to test how much THC has been ingested, but I still wonder at how effective it would be to measure how impaired someone is. I guess they would have to put a limit on it as they have alcohol.

Wouldn't it be wiser to wait until such a device is created?

quote:
Originally posted by Darkarbiter
FIXED imo

I like how your post has wild and or stupid claims and then ends with something post script that might actually be mildly intelligent.

My "wild and stupid" claims are my opinions. Obviously I don't know if that is how it will pan out, but that is what I suspect.

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
You know; if you're gonna go on a rant about something you better be fairly familiar with it.

Funny you should say that. Do you think I have never smoked pot before? I know exactly what I meant by that because I have smoked some weed that had me on my ass tripping right out. Some people don't have as a high a tolerance to the shit as others... and that could be considered a very hard thing to measure, and a hard thing to monitor when it comes to situations in which it should not be used.

As for the comment about Holland... I have never personally been there, so I don't really know how their society runs, and how productive they are as people. However, I do know that they are incredibly liberal, and that they accept a much different and relaxed lifestyle than what we do in the Western world.

Perhaps it wouldn't be a bad idea if there were more efficient ways of monitoring the effects, and when people are under the influence.

Right now though, from my experiences, and from what I have seen, I don't think it would be beneficial in the grand scheme of things.

Posted by nchs09 on Apr-26-2008 21:06:

Posted by RandomGirl on Apr-26-2008 21:07:

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09

Go smoke a joint man...

Posted by UmmiE on Apr-26-2008 21:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Theresa
Go smoke a joint man...

I cant wait to roll the blueberry I have 45 more minz woooohoooo

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