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Posted by 7-4-7 on May-29-2008 23:38:

You do nothing for the cause you clearly feel you are fighting for.

Please move to the States; a place where all of your opinions live and destroy morality and allow everything to exist relative to the amount of money they generate.


Posted by SkyHigh on May-29-2008 23:45:

quote:
Originally posted by 7-4-7
You do nothing for the cause you clearly feel you are fighting for.

Please move to the States; a place where all of your opinions live and destroy morality and allow everything to exist relative to the amount of money they generate.



What?


Posted by Jayx1 on May-30-2008 00:02:

quote:
Originally posted by 7-4-7
You do nothing for the cause you clearly feel you are fighting for.

Please move to the States; a place where all of your opinions live and destroy morality and allow everything to exist relative to the amount of money they generate.



Posted by 7-4-7 on May-30-2008 00:05:

I have submitted a motion to ban the icon.


Posted by 7-4-7 on May-30-2008 00:42:

quote:
Originally posted by SkyHigh
What?


huh?


Posted by Jayx1 on May-30-2008 17:09:

Here is a funny article about big brother. It was written in 2004 and scarily predicts the new law against smoking in cars and homes (condos and renters are now permitted to ban smoking in their buildings including YOUR living space)

quote:
Toronto Marathon should be banned
by Arthur Weinreb,

October 20, 2004

A fatality occurred during the running of last weekend's Toronto Marathon when a 42-year-old Guelph Ontario man suffered a heart attack while nearing the end of the 21 kilometre half-marathon. The unnamed man was the second person to die in the event's 10 year history.

The Toronto Marathon has to be banned. Although two deaths in 10 years may not sound like a lot, in round numbers it is more or less two more than the number of people in Toronto who have died from eating previously unfrozen sushi. And as well, we all know, when he's not yelling at hospital employees and officials, Ontario's Minister of Health, Georgie Smitherman, is proposing to ban the consumption of sushi unless it has been previously frozen. If banning things was only the result of an Ontario cabinet minister having too much time on his hands and having a hate on for raw fish that would be one thing. But banning less dangerous products or activities is the Canadian way. At least it's the Toronto way.

Recently we have seen bans or proposed bans on smoking in bars, pesticides, taxicabs that are more than two years old, pit bulls and dogs that look like pit bulls. How can the Toronto Marathon continue to be run when the cause of two deaths are so obviously related to the event?

Dr. Chris Woollam, the medical director of the marathon (okay, stop right there--the fact that the Toronto Marathon even needs a medical director is proof positive that the run has to be banned for health reasons) told the media that marathon runners over 40 should assess their health before running a marathon.

Since when have citizens become responsible for their own health? Adults can't decide to smoke in a bar with other consenting adults or use a pesticide or now it appears, eat sushi that has not been previously frozen. Where did this radical idea that people are responsible for their own health ever come from? The doctor's statement is a shameful expression of individual responsibility that has absolutely no place in 21st century Toronto. It will only be a matter of time before laws are proposed to outlaw smoking in cars and then homes and then limiting the number of Big Macs that people can eat. Yet the radical suggestion is made that people be allowed to run, even though that activity can result in serious injury or death.

Although death from marathon running is rare (although seemingly not as rare as dying from eating previously un-frozen or "improper" sushi) injuries and illness are not. The Toronto Marathon "medical tent" was staffed by 30 medical personnel to treat the various ills of the runners. The tent was packed to capacity this year as cold temperatures and strong winds led to all kinds of health problems. We simply cannot let this sort of activity to continue. We might as well just hand out cigarettes to people (except for the homeless--they are already receiving them) and tell them to go ahead and die.

All the people who ran in the marathon and later died or required medical treatment were in seemingly good health--or else they never would have attempted the run. So, requiring people to make their own health determinations prior to running simply won't do. The marathon just has to go. People wouldn't risk death, illness or serious injury if they spent their Sundays the way God intended them to--watching football on TV.

Of course the city of Toronto will never ban the marathon. The lefties on council get too much enjoyment out of the traffic chaos that the event causes to ever want to see it disappear. The many road closures, especially those that were unannounced and caused some to be stranded in their vehicles for hours, must have been especially pleasing to the bicycle-riding, car-hating set at Toronto City Hall. The runner who died while participating in the run simply died for the cause. Not a high price to pay to watch motorists fume.

The only hope for banning the event lies with the province whose slogan should be "today sushi--tomorrow, the marathon".


Posted by Xavier Moriarty on May-30-2008 19:10:

just wanna put in my 2 cents about that smokes cover dealio.

so im buying my poison sticks today and its all neatly covered, god forbid if kids saw it or something. and then i see something on the right hand side. now i cant see that good (fuck you old age) but there it was, clear as a day DIRTY ANAL WHORES VOL.53, BUKKAKE FIENDS VOL.28 and DADDY'S LITTLE WHORE : FINALLY 18.

but thank god kids cant see them smokes !


Posted by ChemEnhanced on May-30-2008 19:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
Here is a funny article about big brother. It was written in 2004 and scarily predicts the new law against smoking in cars and homes (condos and renters are now permitted to ban smoking in their buildings including YOUR living space)


Jay, is your real name Arthur Weinreb


Posted by MarkT on May-30-2008 20:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
Here is a funny article about big brother. It was written in 2004 and scarily predicts the new law against smoking in cars and homes (condos and renters are now permitted to ban smoking in their buildings including YOUR living space)


Correct me if I'm wrong or if the law has changed...

AFAIK, to implement 'no smoknig' in a condo, the condo corp would have to put something in the condo declaration or bylaws, which would have to be approved by the board and not contravene existing law.

since the board is made up of owners and represents owners...what's the problem?

you have suggested that if club/bar employees and patrons don't like smoking, they should work/patronize somewhere else. Isn't this the same thing? why not let the free market determine which buildings go "smoke free" and which ones don't? you can't have it both ways!

as for rental buildings...I honestly don't know how that works.

I'll repeat my philosophy: people should be able to do what they want SO LONG AS IT AFFECTS NO ONE BUT THEMSELVES.

so if you smoke, and your smoke infiltrates another unit...too bad for you...you need to figure out a way where your smoking isn't impacting your neighbours. why should the neighbour have to move or tolerate it?

smoking may be legal, but it's not an unlimited "right" (minors can't buy, you can't smoke *everywhere*, etc). just as driving is legal, but is not an unlimited right (age, speed limit, no impaired driving, etc). just as playing music is legal, but not an unlimited right (noise bylaws)


Posted by Jayx1 on May-30-2008 21:20:

If i buy a condo and down the road they vote to go smoke free i have no say in it do i? As for renting a unit. I think there is a big difference between choice at a bar and choice where you live. When i live in my unit, it's my right to smoke. I cant believe that there would be enough smoke to enter another apartment to affect anyone's health or for them to even smell it. If this is the case, it's an issue of building maintenance and safety rather than smoking. You should not be getting regular air flow from another apartment. I would be calling the health department and expecting massive renos to the building if this were occurring.

Whats next? banning cooking of certain foods because the smell *might* penetrate the other apartments? Banning people from their own apartment when they get the flu?

Give me a fucking break


Posted by jonnystel on May-31-2008 01:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
If i buy a condo and down the road they vote to go smoke free i have no say in it do i? As for renting a unit. I think there is a big difference between choice at a bar and choice where you live. When i live in my unit, it's my right to smoke. I cant believe that there would be enough smoke to enter another apartment to affect anyone's health or for them to even smell it. If this is the case, it's an issue of building maintenance and safety rather than smoking. You should not be getting regular air flow from another apartment. I would be calling the health department and expecting massive renos to the building if this were occurring.

Whats next? banning cooking of certain foods because the smell *might* penetrate the other apartments? Banning people from their own apartment when they get the flu?

Give me a fucking break


you really are not getting it are you dude.


Posted by MarkT on May-31-2008 02:37:

...

whatever. I promised myself to not debate ludicrous, illogical replies.

equating cigarette smoke with cooking and the flu...ordering massive renos to buildings...lol, ok.


Posted by SkyHigh on May-31-2008 03:25:

quote:
Originally posted by 7-4-7
huh?


You understood that?


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