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Originally posted by Bulgatti Not to hinder you or anything, but didn't you say you had a Master's? If I were you, I would shoot for a Uni position.

Thank you for the link! And I don't have a masters degree - just a BA right now and have just begun on graduate work and kind of decided I'd rather put that off for a year to do something like this, and come back and finish a grad program.

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Originally posted by Bulgatti This helped alot when I taught throughout South America. Daves ESL Cafe: http://www.eslcafe.com/ Do it. But keep asking lots and lots and lots and lots of questions. Zone in on the fine print. Too many instances I've seen when teachers would be "fired" 2 months before final contract or were told that the rest of their monies would go on their next paycheck. Or as someone already mentioned, many institutes just going straight bankrupt. Not to hinder you or anything, but didn't you say you had a Master's? If I were you, I would shoot for a Uni position. But Freak is right. Korea is where its at. I just didn't think I could assimilate myself too well in the Eastern culture. Still, it's all an experience of a lifetime. Regardless, best of luck to you.

What company did you use for teaching in south america?

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Originally posted by nchs09 What company did you use for teaching in south america?

Saxoncourt.

Don't know if its still the case, but then they required of course the BA + 1 year teaching experience, although now I heard its 2 years. You can read through some of its soso reviews and its website. they're trying to weed through all those recent grads who are merely doing this as a sort of spring break continuation. At the time availabity was only Brazil, Peru, Argentina, Mexico, Ura/Paraguay. I'm sure its had to have gotten more extensive.

lol, broad

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I don't know - I just kind of want to get lost in Japan for a year. Really appeals to me.

+1

I've wanted to do that for a very long time, and as such, these sort of programs have always appealed to me. I never got as far as to see what all was required. And I don't have a BS in anything. More of a dream, I suppose.

However, I have started learning the language. I even got the Japanese IME working on the laptop yesterday. 日本語 Hooray for me!

Let it be known that I'm quite jealous if you take this opportunity. Best of luck!

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN fucking weirdo lira, ban this fuck already.

I wasn't attracted to them either, until the day they surrounded me, gave me massage and... well, I think Myra doesn't need to worry about it

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Originally posted by Lira I wasn't attracted to them either, until the day they surrounded me, gave me massage and... well, I think Myra doesn't need to worry about it

lol, i've actually never been less worried.

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Originally posted by l�cid lol, i've actually never been less worried.

And I don't think I'd be able to do it, or even be able to be in a relationship with someone, who would.

Honestly, between you and my parents supporting me on this so much, knowing kids like Garth, Drew, and Mike who have all kind of taken advantage of their opportunities to travel, and my own general curiosity and excitement about all this, I really feel fortunate because I've got all these resources to draw on for support and just in general people encouraging me to live my life how I'm going to be happy.

It's an oddly (and awesome) calming feeling.

and to think it may have never happened if you put the butter back on the right shelf!

Are we at the end of a sitcom or something? The last 3 posts have been very cheese heavy

Yeah Rob, you have a lot of people really encouraging you to go. Just make the decision. You know you want to go, now it is just committing to it.

Oh, and I am with you on the Asians not being attractive. I prefer my white girls.

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Originally posted by l�cid and to think it may have never happened if you put the butter back on the right shelf!

Awesome. And THE BUTTER DOESN'T HAVE ITS OWN SHELF!

sorry... inside jokes.

and the butter has it's own little section with a door and everything on the top shelf. IT'S SPECIFICALLY MADE FOR BUTTER! jesus!

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Originally posted by RJT So I'm hoping Jay will have some input on this, but also that there are maybe more TA's than I think who have done this before. I've got an interview with a company (AEON) to teach in Japan for a year starting this fall, and I'm pretty excited about the possibility - but I guess I'm just looking to get to know the kinds of things that I might be forgetting about that could become major issues. As for the details, I really don't know specifically where I'd be outside of knowing it would be in Japan. I've wanted to visit Japan for ages, and genuinely think I wouldn't have a problem transplanting myself for a year to somewhere unfamiliar. It's just definitely time to take advantage of my degree and this seems like a prime opportunity - I'd be making as much (if not a bit more) than I would as a first year teacher in the states, better benefits, subsidized rent, and I think it's just the kind of experience I want to have on my resume when I pursue teaching/graduate school further. So have any of you (beyond Jay) done this? Known someone who did? What did you/they think? I've really heard nothing but wonderful things from the handful of people I know personally who've done programs in Japan and South Korea (most have stayed beyond - some well beyond - their first year), but I feel like with hearing all these positive stories I've got to be missing out on something. Any help/info/insights would be much appreciated - just trying to go into the interview prepared. Also (somewhat related), I've really been trying hard to learn more about the subtleties of Japanese culture (so as to at least avoid some inevitable social faux pas), as well as learn a bit of Japanese (though this is of course proving quite difficult) - anyone have anything "big" they think I should know provided I were both offered and accepted the job?

awesome, rob! i am applying for a fulbright grant to teach english in france the year after i graduate. i haven't done it yet (obviously) but i have a lot of friends who have and they love it. plus, it's always been my dream to live in japan, so i am kinda jealous of you right now!

I teach ESL in Sydney in two places- University of Sydney and at a private English school. I teach a lot of Japanese students. Not sure if you have any questions, but I could give you some info on what it is like to teach them. I've also been to Japan, but only on holiday.

What kind of English are you going to teach- General, EAP, stuff for tests in particular TOEIC, etc.?

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Originally posted by klingklang77 I teach ESL in Sydney in two places- University of Sydney and at a private English school. I teach a lot of Japanese students. Not sure if you have any questions, but I could give you some info on what it is like to teach them. I've also been to Japan, but only on holiday. What kind of English are you going to teach- General, EAP, stuff for tests in particular TOEIC, etc.?

It's mostly just conversational English - which is big business in Japan (and other parts of Asia) apparently.

Still trying to get a grasp on how they actually really go about it, to be honest.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel My buddy over there makes like 3700/month there, and usually has a good amount left over. He has been in a shitty time, as the company he went over with, went bankrupt and he had to find a new job. He got evicted from like 2 or 3 places he stayed. lol

I know a guy too who teaches in Japan and the company went bankrupt so he had to find a new job.

Hey Rob, two of my friends at uni have taught English in Japan. One taught for one year before getting married and the other signed up for one year, worked for two, and is now headed to Harvard for MBA. Both loved the experience.

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Originally posted by RJT It's mostly just conversational English - which is big business in Japan (and other parts of Asia) apparently. Still trying to get a grasp on how they actually really go about it, to be honest.

That's what I thought. Yes, it is big business in Asia. My Korean students have told me that their president or prime minister or whatever over there has recently started a program that they do more speaking and listening at school. From what I understand when they learn English they just learn grammar (which isn't taught completely properly anyway), reading and I think writing. Not much emphasis on speaking or listening! I can't tell you how many times we get students that are grammar machines, but can't speak a word. It seems strange, but it is their learning style.

So they have these conversational classes which are very popular. Getting then to speak can be difficult, but remember to make it all about them- speaking about their culture, their life etc. Japanese also love pron (pronunciation). They love their little dictionaries, which I find so annoying b/c from what I understand their language is very poetic, so you will hear them say English words that you wouldn't normally use in speaking- example- chagrin instead of embarrass. They are also afraid of making mistakes and being put on the spot. Again it is just the difference in school systems. They love the American accent, so that is good for you. I teach British English, but I can't get the accent b/c I am American.

Anyway, hope that helps. Let me know if you have any questions on materials and maybe I can help you. Some stuff on this website is helpful (the materials you have to sort through):

http://www.daveseslcafe.com/

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Originally posted by RJT 5 days a week, either noon to 8 PM or 2 to 10 PM, and never more than 40 hours per week.

Are you going to be teaching those hours? That's crazy. When I first started teaching it took me a long time to plan my lessons. Maybe things are different over there. Then again I teach EAP most of the time.

"Teaching English (to) a broad"?

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN just like asian girls' wastelines!

How, may I ask, did you become interested in the disposal of Asian girls' sewage?

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN cartoon so much better than the movie *ugh*

GTFO with your nerd spam.

But yeah, that was possibly one of the shittest movies I've ever had the displeasure of seeing. Even the infinite hotness of Charlize Theron couldn't save it. Needed a boob scene I think.

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Originally posted by RJT So I'm hoping Jay will have some input on this, but also that there are maybe more TA's than I think who have done this before. I've got an interview with a company (AEON) to teach in Japan for a year starting this fall, and I'm pretty excited about the possibility - but I guess I'm just looking to get to know the kinds of things that I might be forgetting about that could become major issues. As for the details, I really don't know specifically where I'd be outside of knowing it would be in Japan. I've wanted to visit Japan for ages, and genuinely think I wouldn't have a problem transplanting myself for a year to somewhere unfamiliar. It's just definitely time to take advantage of my degree and this seems like a prime opportunity - I'd be making as much (if not a bit more) than I would as a first year teacher in the states, better benefits, subsidized rent, and I think it's just the kind of experience I want to have on my resume when I pursue teaching/graduate school further. So have any of you (beyond Jay) done this? Known someone who did? What did you/they think? I've really heard nothing but wonderful things from the handful of people I know personally who've done programs in Japan and South Korea (most have stayed beyond - some well beyond - their first year), but I feel like with hearing all these positive stories I've got to be missing out on something. Any help/info/insights would be much appreciated - just trying to go into the interview prepared. Also (somewhat related), I've really been trying hard to learn more about the subtleties of Japanese culture (so as to at least avoid some inevitable social faux pas), as well as learn a bit of Japanese (though this is of course proving quite difficult) - anyone have anything "big" they think I should know provided I were both offered and accepted the job?

Hey! I've been living in northern Japan (Tohoku region) since August last year. Having an absolute ball and plan on staying a few years yet. Good pay, low bills and cost of living, but transport is horrendously expensive. I know who have lived here for 12 years and more.

AEON took over NOVA, so I don't know what their reputation is like, although a Japanese girl friend of mine has an interview with them soon in Tokyo, so I think they must be doing quite well if they're hiring again.

Ageha is the best club in the world incidently. Been there 3 times now.

If there's anything you want to know, please ask!

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Originally posted by RJT It's mostly just conversational English - which is big business in Japan (and other parts of Asia) apparently. Still trying to get a grasp on how they actually really go about it, to be honest.

Sounds like you're going to be teaching at an Eikaiwa �i�p��b�j(English conversation school). They are becoming big business over here. Programs like JET are on their way out, as more JTEs (Japanese teachers of English) can speak English better and better so the need for ALTs is slowly but surely declining. What your eikaiwa entails is more chat than actual teaching. Most people go to eikaiwas 'cos they wanna hang out with foreigners and learn on the go. They don't want text books or anything like that, they just want to chat and have you correct them. You'd need to have very advanced Japanese to teach grammar anyway. You're goig to be there as something to practice off.

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Originally posted by RJT So here's something I've been wondering that the TA's may be able to help with - anyone know of any Japanese EDM forums? Better yet, any that have even a single subforum that is in English? I really have no intention of giving up at least trying to play out - whether or not I'm actually able to should I wind up in Japan is, of course, another story entirely.

http://forum.isratrance.com/forum-japan/

There are some awesome beach bombs every year all over the country. I definitely recommend them.

it might be just me, but for a few days before i left i had butterflies in my stomach like mad and i got scared. It really id worth it. A few days before you will be wtf (maybe its just me again), but once you get there and see how much of a king you are you will realize that you will be hard off to find a job that makes you feel this way.

If you want to make good money and be truly appreciated asia is the way. Japan is much cooler as a place, but if you want to make real cash, go to south korea, and visit japan when you can. I made 10 k this month (extenuting circumstances and im not trying to brag, you know i have a piece of the pie).Its a question of what you want. Japan is a cooler country, whereas Korea you can make the same salary in half the time. Either way do womb..that club is sick and pm me for membership info. You have more chances of playing in korea though.

Hey what the fuck. You better NOT be leaving the country

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Originally posted by bas Hey what the fuck. You better NOT be leaving the country

Find out in about a week or two for sure. Interview is next Sun-Tues.

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