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Posted by Clovis on Jun-12-2008 21:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Sadface
It definitely says something about the DJ, but I still think its a pretty large leap to say "if you buy a pioneer mixer, you must be a DJ who loves cheesy music, lame mixing, and bad effects," which was implied earlier in the thread.



If reality supports it, I don't see why not.


Posted by JD8180 on Jun-12-2008 21:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Those reasons are not my issues with it, but the fact that people buy into those as selling points is what puts most of us off. The fact that trance DJs use it is less of a slight than the fact that people use that to argue that it is superior. The fact that it has a flanger doesn't bother me at all, it's the truth that it is mostly over-used, and should NOT be considered a "plus" unless you like cheap effects.





Of course its subjective, but we're discussing each person's subjective opinions here not universal fact. RJT may present his posts in ways that lead some to think he believes his opinion to be absolute truth, but its really just his opinion. It remains that people often like one or the other for similar reasons, and it was pointed out that people who are very conscious about really mixing music and fine blending generally do NOT prefer the 800.


You can mix a great set on almost any of these mixers, but when it comes down to preference, the reasons why certain people choose one over the other are very telling and reflective of who they are as DJs.


but you see, a post like this in the first place i'm sure wouldn't have caused all the ruckus that has happened in here. i have no problems with RJT or anyone in this forum, but it just seems like he bashed at every single post that woody would make, and quite offensively rather than a more neutral approach like you just did.

it really all boils down to what you enjoy. some people when djing enjoy more the long transitions and very smooth mixing, where as some like to be the effects whore. i have a friend who owns the djm800 and constantly throws in effects, which personally i don't like, but i can't tell him it's wrong. if i told him to stop using effects completely, it would probably take the fun out of djing for him. there isn't any one right way to dj in all respects.

the djm 800 is most definitely the more "commercial" product, but it's not just straight up garbage.

everyone is into their own different thing.


Posted by Clovis on Jun-12-2008 22:22:

quote:
Originally posted by JD8180
but you see, a post like this in the first place i'm sure wouldn't have caused all the ruckus that has happened in here. i have no problems with RJT or anyone in this forum, but it just seems like he bashed at every single post that woody would make, and quite offensively rather than a more neutral approach like you just did.

it really all boils down to what you enjoy. some people when djing enjoy more the long transitions and very smooth mixing, where as some like to be the effects whore. i have a friend who owns the djm800 and constantly throws in effects, which personally i don't like, but i can't tell him it's wrong. if i told him to stop using effects completely, it would probably take the fun out of djing for him. there isn't any one right way to dj in all respects.

the djm 800 is most definitely the more "commercial" product, but it's not just straight up garbage.

everyone is into their own different thing.



Agree


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jun-12-2008 22:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Sadface
It definitely says something about the DJ, but I still think its a pretty large leap to say "if you buy a pioneer mixer, you must be a DJ who loves cheesy music, lame mixing, and bad effects," which was implied earlier in the thread.


yeah! i play nothing but uplifting trance and i love xones, so what does that make me?


Posted by JD8180 on Jun-12-2008 22:55:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
yeah! i play nothing but uplifting trance and i love xones, so what does that make me?


you are not allowed to do that.


Posted by miamitranceman on Jun-12-2008 23:51:

quote:
Originally posted by JD8180
you are not allowed to do that.



Apparently not according to this thread.


Posted by miamitranceman on Jun-12-2008 23:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Thats not at all what I said, but feel free to continue the selective quoting.



Go back a few pages...you did the same thing to me dude.


Posted by Clovis on Jun-12-2008 23:57:

quote:
Originally posted by miamitranceman
Go back a few pages...you did the same thing to me dude.



I don't see where. Anything I addressed was in context.


Posted by drEamer on Jun-13-2008 00:22:

so this frequency thing on the 700.....what exactly is this???


Posted by Sadface on Jun-13-2008 02:10:

quote:
Originally posted by drEamer
so this frequency thing on the 700.....what exactly is this???

Shut up. Thats not what we're talking about in this thread.


Posted by drEamer on Jun-13-2008 02:21:

LOL

lets get down to it......people arguing on the internet...well u know.....


the beauty of arguing about music is no one is ever wrong.....because its soo subjective


Posted by miamitranceman on Jun-13-2008 13:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Sadface
Shut up. Thats not what we're talking about in this thread.





I almost fell out of my chair.

The frequency adjust on the 700 is hard to discribe in words. It's one of those things you have to demo I think.


Posted by drEamer on Jun-13-2008 15:48:

quote:
Originally posted by miamitranceman


I almost fell out of my chair.

The frequency adjust on the 700 is hard to discribe in words. It's one of those things you have to demo I think.
that seems like a pretty cool feature, wonder why its not on the 800.....


Posted by miamitranceman on Jun-13-2008 19:37:

quote:
Originally posted by drEamer
that seems like a pretty cool feature, wonder why its not on the 800.....


Bc the 700 came out almost 2 years after the 800.


Posted by drEamer on Jun-13-2008 20:48:

quote:
Originally posted by miamitranceman
Bc the 700 came out almost 2 years after the 800.
it can always be added in the future...


Posted by cmay119 on Jun-13-2008 20:56:

quote:
Originally posted by drEamer
it can always be added in the future...


What, and undermine all the customers who bought the 800 before said upgrade? That would be a very bad decision on Pioneer's part. More likely they would just make a new model mixer to replace the 800 (DJM-1200?)


Posted by drEamer on Jun-13-2008 22:02:

quote:
Originally posted by cmay119
What, and undermine all the customers who bought the 800 before said upgrade? That would be a very bad decision on Pioneer's part. More likely they would just make a new model mixer to replace the 800 (DJM-1200?)
interesting thought


Posted by Clovis on Jun-13-2008 22:35:

And yet the filters still have no resonance adjust on either mixer...making them far less useful.


Posted by i got big pants on Jun-13-2008 22:46:

the filters on the djm700 are decent...nothing spectacular.

ive been wanting some better control over the filters, so i found an alesis modfx philtre on ebay. which i ended up getting. i know a while back there was a big hype over them on TA. can't wait to recieve it.


Posted by miamitranceman on Jun-14-2008 14:47:

quote:
Originally posted by i got big pants
the filters on the djm700 are decent...nothing spectacular.

ive been wanting some better control over the filters, so i found an alesis modfx philtre on ebay. which i ended up getting. i know a while back there was a big hype over them on TA. can't wait to recieve it.



Oh yeah that thing looked pretty cool. Let us know how it is when you get it.


Posted by Allayla on Jun-14-2008 21:05:

On another note i'm still loving my 500


Posted by miamitranceman on Jun-14-2008 21:10:

quote:
Originally posted by starboy
On another note i'm still loving my 500


That's old school.


Posted by Allayla on Jun-14-2008 21:12:

Ya but i'm not much into efx just raw mixing, i would love to add that filtre thing though, i love filters.


Posted by RJT on Jun-14-2008 22:04:

quote:
Originally posted by i got big pants
the filters on the djm700 are decent...nothing spectacular.

ive been wanting some better control over the filters, so i found an alesis modfx philtre on ebay. which i ended up getting. i know a while back there was a big hype over them on TA. can't wait to recieve it.


I think they're as close as you can get to the A&H filters. Quality little box for a decent price, that.


Posted by Palladium on Jun-16-2008 04:25:

pulls the "the gear don't do the mixing, the dj does the mixing" card





















srsly though, fuck pioneer mixers


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