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i said to you that you're stupid few pages before, what's the point replying now and with childish jokes, lol.How old are you, 11 ? I said you're stupid cuz your thinkin IS stupid, you can't defend from it.Now gtfo.

Well minimal is minimal. Dark is dark and morning is light.

All your base are belong to me Psy is not dead, and Psy has a lot of variety, imo. If your not really into it, I'm sure if u started to explore it deeper, u could find a bunch of compilations and styles that one would like. Sure some tracks sound almost the same, but its EDM and this applies to all genres.

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Originally posted by Corey i said to you that you're stupid few pages before, what's the point replying now and with childish jokes, lol.How old are you, 11 ? I said you're stupid cuz your thinkin IS stupid, you can't defend from it.Now gtfo.

you are stupid corey

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Originally posted by Darkarbiter I'd also like to point out that goa trance isn't really psytrance... and I think progpsy is psytrance (I suppose its kind of like psy-tech... its the other genre but with psy influences and by psy artists) but some people also think that it isn't really psytrance. So yeh... new example plz? [edit] Minimal psy http://youtube.com/watch?v=JQYXp-5EIhM Morning psy http://youtube.com/watch?v=69fgNJ5hGYM Dark psy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmCnjqAqrSc

the beat is very basic in all of them. its extremely predictable and boring when you're not tripping. shit, even human beings drumming at a drum circle is more interesting because at least the pattern changes creatively and sporatically instead of a static 4 bars or whatever the frequency of changes are in psy tracks. the kick drum in most psy sounds very similiar, sounds like they're all using a 909.

the name is psy trance as in psychedelic trance, as in this is music for a psychedelic experience. any music that ties itself so closely to one particular state of mind is no longer an artform and becomes just druggie music.

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Originally posted by stev�sto the beat is very basic in all of them.

Welcome to 99.9% of EDM.

What are you after in dance music? You might as well complain about how dance tracks basically never change time signature or use chromaticism, or the fact that they don't follow sonata form.



The fact that music is simple doesn't mean that it sucks, unless you're just some snob with your head too far up your ass to have fun. The vast majority of EDM is musically piss-simple compared to classical or even a lot of moderately competent rock music. Does that mean it sucks? Your call I guess, but I say no.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Welcome to 99.9% of EDM. What are you after in dance music? You might as well complain about how dance tracks basically never change time signature or use chromaticism, or the fact that they don't follow sonata form. The fact that music is simple doesn't mean that it sucks, unless you're just some snob with your head too far up your ass to have fun. The vast majority of EDM is musically piss-simple compared to classical or even a lot of moderately competent rock music. Does that mean it sucks? Your call I guess, but I say no.

i agree EDM is simple, most of it has one mission ... make you move. but there comes a point when it becomes too simple. like nothing but a metronome, most will agree, is too simple. psy is not too far removed from that in the beat department. most other forms of EDM will embelish around the kickdrum with polyrhythms, changing patterns, changing the tone of percussion elements throughout a track, etc. psy? no, psy doesnt do this.

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Originally posted by stev�sto the beat is very basic in all of them. its extremely predictable and boring when you're not tripping

Oh comon sif Shiva Chandra is predictable . Anyway... I don't see how its any more predictable than house/trance/pretty much anything else that isn't some weird form of idm or something. Right so your posting here about how you've just become jaded by all edm. "Polyrthmns+some stuff I don't really understand" well sure theres plenty of nice high hat patterns, breaks, bassline changes etc that happen in quality psy. Have a listen to IM-The gathering. Quality stuff, what you've been complaining about seems to be the same old full on psy sucks/all psy is full on psy argument. Theres tons of other stuff ya know. Also stuff like IM the gathering is going to sound boring, cliche, random and simple if you listen to it once while tired. Then you realise its none of those things. Trippin balls or not.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bQyR-FXJCLk&feature=related
how about that?

I don't think we're defending psy because our feeling are hurt. Its mostly so people don't have a bad opinion of it and hopefully someone hears a gem in it and gets into it. No?

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Originally posted by Mattsanity lol you're a funny kid, trying to type like a mature, civilized edm fan when you're just like all these sensitive psy trance who caught major feelings because somebody didnt like their beloved subgenre.

You can hate psy all you want,but whats the point of you keep bashing it and making of fun other who enjoy it?

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how can there be a debate when everyone has different tastes and no ones gonna win over the other? plus dont put words in my mouth either buddy. this has nothing to do with drugs because I enjoy or hate any music no matter if Im sober or not.

Good for you "buddy"

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you're completely misunderstanding the entire atmosphere of TA. this isnt a neo-nazi moderated site where the most logical opinions and debates must be discussed so nobody gives a fuck about being nice.

There is alot of clueless fuckin idiots on this board specifically in this thread..

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you've been on this site for a minute and fail to realize that. lol @ this dude saying Im not good at debating especially when it comes to full on israeli psytrance or whatever you coin that overrated style. you just witnessd the casual side of my TA personality.

Been on this site for a minute?lol ok

and lol at your so called casual personality.lets see some Jane and Finch personality please!!! lol

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you wanna take things serious and seriously debate about whatever you like, I could assure you dont hold a candle to my debating skills so how about you go to sleep instead.

Debating with you seems like a waste of time since you think for some reason you are better then everyone else.

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I may have exaggerated saying all psytrance sounds the same but that doesnt mean I didnt do my homework. quit assuming because at the end of the day, I probably know far more edm than you so go figure.

FAIL again.


K nevermind go listen to your amazing electro house,

Mattsanity has won. Everyone go home, please. Seriously.

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Originally posted by Skov Mattsanity has won. Everyone go home, please. Seriously.

yup thread closed...

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Originally posted by Darkarbiter Oh comon sif Shiva Chandra is predictable . Anyway... I don't see how its any more predictable than house/trance/pretty much anything else that isn't some weird form of idm or something. Right so your posting here about how you've just become jaded by all edm. "Polyrthmns+some stuff I don't really understand" well sure theres plenty of nice high hat patterns, breaks, bassline changes etc that happen in quality psy. Have a listen to IM-The gathering. Quality stuff, what you've been complaining about seems to be the same old full on psy sucks/all psy is full on psy argument. Theres tons of other stuff ya know. Also stuff like IM the gathering is going to sound boring, cliche, random and simple if you listen to it once while tired. Then you realise its none of those things. Trippin balls or not. http://youtube.com/watch?v=bQyR-FXJCLk&feature=related how about that?

what about that? shpongle is nice, but its not psytrance.

polyrhythms is when two or more rhythms are going on at once and the beats of the rhythms never happen at the same time at any point in the song. maybe i missed it but im not hearing that in any of the examples in this thread. even so thats not the only thing that makes something groovy. yes the percussion patterns change throughout the psy track, the key is how creatively you change the pattern, which psy is not very creative in that department, I M O.

The examples in this thread are shit. Game over, we lost. Mattsanity won. Please go home now.

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Originally posted by Mattsanity @ hardcore trancer anyway, can you suggest me some good psytrance then?

you should rather ask "Pardon me I had no idea what psytrance was in the first place so can you please direct me to some?".

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Originally posted by Mattsanity @ hardcore trancer

Good come back there Jane&Finch.

someone actually made a "mattsanity appreciation thread" ...lolz

Why is this still going? Two brainless guys who understand nothing of this genre keep bashing our "feelings". Let's stop "hurting" ourselves...

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Originally posted by Magadansky Why is this still going? Two brainless guys who understand nothing of this genre keep bashing our "feelings". Let's stop "hurting" ourselves...

just trying to help the younger kids. you'll grow out of this bullshit music one day, like petran, me and many others.

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Originally posted by stev�sto just trying to help the younger kids. you'll grow out of this bullshit music one day, like petran, me and many others.

Many others didn't so bad argument here. Thanks for the "help".

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Originally posted by stev�sto just trying to help the younger kids. you'll grow out of this bullshit music one day, like petran, me and many others.

now im gonna use the "i�ve listened to psy for the last 12 years"-card. Here you go: i�ve listened to psy for the last 12 years

Heard Skazi play last night. When did he stop playing psy?

I don't think Skazi ever played psy. Or music for that matter.

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Originally posted by isoterra who DID say psytrance was dead?

good question, who in the hell ever said psytrance was dead? no, seriously, i want his name and address

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Originally posted by Dj Dizzy good question, who in the hell ever said psytrance was dead? no, seriously, i want his name and address

You can't he died 15 years ago

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