Saw this reported on CNN International here

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Originally posted by exstasie well, it is possible, especially with the internet these days. I know there are probably quite a few people on here who watched the Daniel Pearl video, and other type videos...

I'd bet a video isnt really comparable to actually seeing a man stabbed to death and beheaded

RIP Tim

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Friends are describing the victim of a gruesome killing aboard a Winnipeg-bound Greyhound bus as a bubbly young man who was returning home from working at a carnival in Edmonton. Tim McLean Jr., shown in a photograph from his MySpace page, was described by friends as a bubbly person loved by everyone. Police have not confirmed the identity of the man stabbed to death aboard a bus late Wednesday and beheaded, according to witness accounts, but friends have said it was Tim McLean Jr., 22, of Winnipeg. RCMP announced Friday morning that they have charged Vince Weiguang Li, 40, of Edmonton with second-degree murder. He is scheduled to appear at the Manitoba provincial court in Portage la Prairie. Second-degree murder, under the Criminal Code, is commonly defined as unpremeditated murder. First-degree murder refers to a killing that is planned and deliberate, but also when death is caused by sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, kidnapping and forcible confinement. In an e-mail to CBC News, friend Jossie Kehler wrote that McLean was loved by everyone, had a bubbly personality and was a ladies' man. "He has a lot of friends and they all are very upset he's gone, and they would like to say they miss him and he will always be in their hearts," she wrote. "People say no one's perfect, but Tim, he was," she wrote. "He did nothing bad to anyone." Hundreds of Facebook users flocked Friday to a tribute group titled R.I.P Tim McLean set up overnight to send their condolences to family and friends as well as express their shock at the grisly story that made international headlines. "R.I.P Tim McLean, You are loved and you will be missed dearly!" the site description read. Friends say McLean had taken a job with the Red River Exhibition and then went to work in Edmonton, but had decided to return home. On McLean's MySpace page, he describes himself as a short, five-foot-five guy, weighing about 125 pounds. Witnesses described the attacker as a hulking six-foot-tall man in sunglasses who appeared to weigh more than 200 pounds. Father trying to reach wife McLean's father, Tim McLean Sr., told CBC News on Thursday night that he was in the process of trying to get confirmation from the police that his son was, in fact, the victim. He said he was also trying to reach his wife, who is on an Alaskan cruise until next week. The father said his son had sent him a text message around 7:30 p.m. as the bus was leaving Brandon, the last leg of its journey, to ask if he could come home for the night. Tim McLean Jr. was returning to Winnipeg from Edmonton, where he had been working at an exhibition. The father told his son that, of course, he could come home, and that was the last contact he had with him. The RCMP would not confirm the reports of beheading, saying only that a stabbing took place around 8:30 p.m. CT on an eastbound Greyhound bus on the Trans-Canada Highway about 20 kilometres west of Portage la Prairie. An autopsy was scheduled for Friday at the Winnipeg Health Sciences Centre. Witnesses said the victim got on the bus in Edmonton. His attacker came aboard in Brandon and sat away from the victim toward the front of the bus, they said. After a short cigarette break, however, the attacker moved his belongings and chose a seat beside the young man. Garnet Caton, who was sitting in the seat in front of the victim, said the young man was sleeping with his headphones on when he was attacked. Caton said he heard a "blood-curdling scream" and turned around to see the attacker holding a large "Rambo" hunting knife above the victim, "continually stabbing him in the chest area." Passengers fled "He must have stabbed him 50 times or 60 times," said Caton, who jumped out of his seat when he realized what was happening and began ushering passengers to the front of the bus. As panicked passengers fled the bus, "the attacker was over top of the victim � continually cutting him. I think the victim was gone at that point," Caton said. Caton, the driver and a trucker who had stopped at the scene later boarded the vehicle to see if the victim was still alive. "When we came back on the bus, it was visible at the end of the bus he was cutting the guy's head off and pretty much gutting him up," said Caton. The attacker ran at them, Caton said, and they ran out of the bus, holding the door shut as he tried to slash at the trio. When the attacker tried to drive the bus away, the driver disabled the vehicle, Caton said. "While we were watching the door, he calmly walks up to the front with the head in his hand and the knife and just calmly stares at us and drops the head right in front of us," said Caton. Another passenger, Cody Olmstead, said: "They did an awesome thing, holding him in there, because if not, what would have happened?" RCMP crisis negotiators communicated with the suspect for several hours while he was on the bus. Around 1:30 a.m., he attempted to jump from a bus window and was subdued and arrested, RCMP said. Police cruisers arrived about 10 minutes after the attack began, he estimated, and officers began directing passengers to school buses to take them to a hotel in Brandon.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008...ing-victim.html

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Originally posted by gummybear if there were enough people..they should have just beat the fuck out of him and killed his ass......to be honest..they should save tax payers money...no trial and reinstate capital punishment just for this sicko....

That is interesting. What if a group of strangers had beat him and killed the killer? I wonder how much public support they would get, and how that would affect a trial, if there was one? Could they all argue self defense?

^^^ Insanity!

RIP Tim. So sad.

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* And Cale...you're an ass haha

Yeah, well, you know how it is

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 Yeah, well, you know how it is

I admit, I laughed.

I wonder if maybe the kid's real name was John Connor. Then we're all screwed.

I hope I'm not getting ahead of everybody here with my theory.

Oh, here's a pic of the suspect.

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 [imghttp://img297.**************/img297/7766/be6a292eea968cae235b182pz2.jpg/img]

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Witnesses described the attacker as a hulking six-foot-tall man in sunglasses who appeared to weigh more than 200 pounds.

Really?

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Originally posted by Import Really?

It's probably easy as hell to exaggerate the description of a guy who is stabbing the living shit out of some poor bastard 10 feet away from you in the dark.

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Bus Beheading Story Goes Worldwide But With Some Exaggerations Canada is always anxious to be a big player on the world stage. But not like this. The beheading of an apparent complete stranger on board a Greyhound bus in Portage La Prairie, Manitoba Wednesday night has made headlines around the planet. The story has been featured in Britain, Ireland, Australia, The Netherlands, Hong Kong and of course, the U.S. International agencies like The Associated Press, AFP and Reuters have also spread the details worldwide. It was the number one item on the BBC's website and it placed second on CNN's online counterpart. Even bloggers have picked up the gruesome tale, adding their own sometimes eerie and speculative comments to the mix. "I found it scary seeing as how I used to take Greyhounds to Canada!!!" one wrote. "I doubt I ever will again, especially now." Others were critical of the already traumatized passengers who watched the incident unfold. "37 people didn't have anything to throw at him? 37 people couldn't have over powered one guy with a knife?" an outraged poster asks. "Isn't this the same mentality that allowed 2 or 3 idiots with box cutters to take out the Twin Towers?" "No handguns allowed in Canada, we know. But no woman had a purse to bonk him on the head?" another queries. "No one bothered to throw a can of diet Coke at the guy's head? Who was on the bus? The Old Ladies' Home and Gardening Society?" And still a third called Canadians "panzies" (sic) for not doing anything to stop it. But experts remind the commentators they weren't there at the time and can't understand the shock and surprise that may have rendered those onboard numb and unable to act, while worried about saving their own lives. Others seemed determined to inject conspiracy theories into the mix, implying it was a terror attack. "Winnipeg is only a few miles from the U.S. border," a reader maintains. "The idea was to get as close to the U.S. as he could, if not get into the U.S., then engage in the attack in front of a busload of people. This was another act of radical Islamic terrorism on North American soil." "Beheading is the trademark of al-Qaeda." But while authorities here admit they don't yet know the motive for the murder, they're adamant terror wasn't behind it. There have also been many lurid headlines surrounding the unthinkable act. "Bus slasher beheads passenger," proclaimed Sky News in Britain. "Killer taunts police with decapitated head," shouted a banner in the Sunday Times of Australia. But of all the sometimes over-the-top coverage, perhaps nothing beats the totally unfounded attention-getter printed at Thai media outlet Thaindian.com, which was apparently spawned by an early report from a Canadian source. "Beheading on bus shocks Canada," it began. "Cannibalism feared." Officials say there was absolutely no sign that a desire for human flesh was in any way involved but the gruesomeness of the tale is bound to keep foreign media interested - and hopefully getting more of their facts correct as new revelations emerge.

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Hahaha, oh those brave Brits. I'm sure that when a guy on their subway starts repeatedly stabbing another passenger with a large hunting knife they're all going to throw their puny bodies at him in order to save the guy that's already dead.

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew Source

Wow...I'm appauled at what some of those people had to say. They have NO idea what it would have been like to be in that situation. The one guy in the interview said that people were throwing up and in shock...it's not something you see everyday. Your first instinct would naturally be to get away.

They said this guy had a rambo size knife too. I'd be pretty scared to take any chances at trying to get it away from him. Trying to stop him is likely to get a bunch of other people hurt, and if he were to break free...well he'd sure be fucking pissed. Same with if you threw something at him. Okay, you throw a popcan...a) you hit him, don't hurt him and now he's mad...b) you don't hit him, and now he's mad you even tried...c) you startle him and again...he's mad.

The one guy in the interview said that himself, the bus driver and the truck driver tried to see what they could do to help....but when there's a derranged guy chopping someone up, and you're in complete shock, it's hard to think of something to do b/c you're scared, and just don't KNOW what to do.

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* Wow...I'm appauled at what some of those people had to say. They have NO idea what it would have been like to be in that situation. The one guy in the interview said that people were throwing up and in shock...it's not something you see everyday. Your first instinct would naturally be to get away. They said this guy had a rambo size knife too. I'd be pretty scared to take any chances at trying to get it away from him. Trying to stop him is likely to get a bunch of other people hurt, and if he were to break free...well he'd sure be fucking pissed. Same with if you threw something at him. Okay, you throw a popcan...a) you hit him, don't hurt him and now he's mad...b) you don't hit him, and now he's mad you even tried...c) you startle him and again...he's mad. The one guy in the interview said that himself, the bus driver and the truck driver tried to see what they could do to help....but when there's a derranged guy chopping someone up, and you're in complete shock, it's hard to think of something to do b/c you're scared, and just don't KNOW what to do.

yeah my thoughts exactly
I bolded those statements because it's all nice and dandy how they're all brave behind their keyboards
there's no way in hell anyone would try to intervene
unless it was someone they know I guess? there was a story recently where the guy protected his Mom from a thief with a knife, he might lose his thumb because of all the deep cuts he got in the process

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* Wow...I'm appauled at what some of those people had to say. They have NO idea what it would have been like to be in that situation. The one guy in the interview said that people were throwing up and in shock...it's not something you see everyday. Your first instinct would naturally be to get away. They said this guy had a rambo size knife too. I'd be pretty scared to take any chances at trying to get it away from him. Trying to stop him is likely to get a bunch of other people hurt, and if he were to break free...well he'd sure be fucking pissed. Same with if you threw something at him. Okay, you throw a popcan...a) you hit him, don't hurt him and now he's mad...b) you don't hit him, and now he's mad you even tried...c) you startle him and again...he's mad. The one guy in the interview said that himself, the bus driver and the truck driver tried to see what they could do to help....but when there's a derranged guy chopping someone up, and you're in complete shock, it's hard to think of something to do b/c you're scared, and just don't KNOW what to do.

Yea its doubtful a 'bonk' with a purse of a popcan to the head is gonna have much effect on someone pumped full of adrenaline repeatedly stabbing someone. Additionally they did come back once they had gotten some makeshift weapons, and managed to keep him on the bus.

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew yeah my thoughts exactly I bolded those statements because it's all nice and dandy how they're all brave behind their keyboards there's no way in hell anyone would try to intervene unless it was someone they know I guess? there was a story recently where the guy protected his Mom from a thief with a knife, he might lose his thumb because of all the deep cuts he got in the process

LOL @ them thinking that this is related to terrorism b/c beheading is the trademark of Al Qaeda. As well as people being afraid to take greyhounds to Canada Unlikely it would have happened on a plane, but there are other forms of transportation (i.e. train) which this could have also happened on. So I guess they should be afraid of taking any sort of public transportation.

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* LOL @ them thinking that this is related to terrorism b/c beheading is the trademark of Al Qaeda. As well as people being afraid to take greyhounds to Canada Unlikely it would have happened on a plane, but there are other forms of transportation (i.e. train) which this could have also happened on. So I guess they should be afraid of taking any sort of public transportation.

lol I know
like now suddenly all Greyhounds are full of psychos with knives!
TTC after midnight isn't any safer!

speaking of planes - every time I fly and I get metal utensils, I always have this sneaky idea in my head that it would so easy for some freak to totally create a hostage situation with a butter knife!

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Originally posted by mikester69 Disgusting. And this guy probably won't be spending any time in jail due to his likely mental retardation.

He'd definitely get killed in jail that's one way to get rid of him

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Originally posted by Irishaddict this stuff only happens in the states.

First thing came to my mind but then I thought of UK and some other countries and even though this shocked me and as disgusting as it is, it was bound to happen.

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Originally posted by gummybear ...no trial and reinstate capital punishment just for this sicko....

I wish this happened in the Saudi, his head would be on the ground rolling and birds eating away his sick ass brain uggggggh F*&KeR !

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew yeah my thoughts exactly I bolded those statements because it's all nice and dandy how they're all brave behind their keyboards there's no way in hell anyone would try to intervene unless it was someone they know I guess? there was a story recently where the guy protected his Mom from a thief with a knife, he might lose his thumb because of all the deep cuts he got in the process

^^ agreed. I had the same thought myself: "man if I were there I would have saved that guy's life by smashing that guys face in". The reality is I would have been scared shitless. And when we are faced with instinctual emotions like fear we act instinctualy and FLEE.

Really it's not about knowing what to do in this situation its about getting the heck out and making sure you and everyone else is safe.

And let us not worry the madman will get his the second he is put in with the general population in prison. Hopefully the courts don't pull a "Canada" and deem him insane or give him Bernardo like isolation.

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Originally posted by Time2Burn give him Bernardo like isolation.

That's what I was thinking too...hope he doens't get solitary.

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Originally posted by Time2Burn And let us not worry the madman will get his the second he is put in with the general population in prison. Hopefully the courts don't pull a "Canada" and deem him insane or give him Bernardo like isolation.

I just said the same above...that is the ONLY way to get rid of this sicko

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Originally posted by Time2Burn ^^ agreed. I had the same thought myself: "man if I were there I would have saved that guy's life by smashing that guys face in". The reality is I would have been scared shitless. And when we are faced with instinctual emotions like fear we act instinctualy and FLEE.

yeah! or freeze...

I can only imagine a memeber of a SWAP team would have all the right instincts kicking in if one was present at the scene

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