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Well apparently these threads have like a billion more times the hits compared with the fucking boring shit most people post here.

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Originally posted by Krypton So I have a question. What's your alternative to the Federal Reserve System and fiat currency? Especially given the corrupt nature of government.

What a segue.

It's rather futile, I'm sure you'd agree, to assume a 25 year old drum and bass producer/culinary graduate has deeply pondered the faults of your economic system, or central bank system in general.

I'll let someone else stick their foot in their mouth on that subject.

A true federalised bank, run by bureaucrats and politicians rather than billionaire bankers might be a good start. I've got much cooler things to do than harp on an economy that I barely take part in.

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} It's rather futile, I'm sure you'd agree, to assume a 25 year old drum and bass producer/culinary graduate has deeply pondered the faults of your economic system, or central bank system in general.

with all due respect BSE (and for what its worth, i always held you in high regard until you started posting in these kinds of threads )

but given the strength with which you hold certain beliefs, and your unwillingness to grasp real, factual information that litter any research medium with which you might choose to use- do you think it is intellectually dishonest of you to then turn around and make this kind of comment (about central banks)?

i appreciate that you care a lot about your topics, and that is to be commended. but if youre going to (copy) post at length then i expect a slightly better understanding than this reply indicates.

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Originally posted by culorut's new sig!!!! PKC:youre right, im a troll when it comes to these topics. im not that concerned.

the really funny point here is cretinrot never posts in any other threads other than these conspiracy pieces of nonsense, so the irony that his sig identifies shit threads is lost on him

Upset I am showing everyone that you said it yourself that you are a troll?

Too bad. You had it coming.

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Originally posted by culorut Well apparently these threads have like a billion more times the hits compared with the fucking boring shit most people post here.

Yes, judge the importance of an issue by how many times you click on it.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN with all due respect BSE (and for what its worth, i always held you in high regard until you started posting in these kinds of threads ) but given the strength with which you hold certain beliefs, and your unwillingness to grasp real, factual information that litter any research medium with which you might choose to use- do you think it is intellectually dishonest of you to then turn around and make this kind of comment (about central banks)? i appreciate that you care a lot about your topics, and that is to be commended. but if youre going to (copy) post at length then i expect a slightly better understanding than this reply indicates.

Ok, I'm not entirely sure what you mean by all this. I think, stating, that it would be unwise for me to continue in an economic discussion is rather honest of me, intellectually. Tongue in cheek all the way here, m8.

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It's rather futile, I'm sure you'd agree, to assume a 25 year old drum and bass producer/culinary graduate has deeply pondered the faults of your economic system, or central bank system in general.

See? This is me saying, "I have no genuine idea". I've lost interest utterly in debating economics, once realising the depths at which I was debating in. Fuck dat, as they say.

Then I follow up by saying,

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I'll let someone else stick their foot in their mouth on that subject.

Sooooo.. in essence, I am at a loss for what you think I was trying to say.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Yes, judge the importance of an issue by how many times you click on it.

Actually you should be paying more attention, numbers are everything. You are missing the point here and I am sure if the topic had no real interest it would have floated away in cyberspace a very long time ago.

The general public is very aware of what has transpired and the most of the threads especially the 9/11 thread has the most views and replies for this exact same reason.

The official 9/11 story is not anywhere good enough, it's not even close. If you cannot see this I really don't expect you to see the reality of the cover up.

Real issues gather attention, nonsense topic's and threads do not stand the test of time.

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} A true federalised bank, run by bureaucrats and politicians rather than billionaire bankers might be a good start.

LOL, you just put your foot in your mouth..

So you'de rather have politicians controlling our money supply? The only thing their going to do is inflate the currency on election years. The vast majority of politicians have no idea how the Fed works, yet, you'de like them to control it?

Additionally, the Federal Reserve Governors are appointed by the President. And if the Fed is to be the "lender of last resort", borrowers, kind of have to be members of this bank. You can't just walk into any bank and ask for a loan. They will require you become a member of that bank.

Also, check out the case of Perry versus United States. It decided that a law whereby creditors could demand debt repayment by gold, was unconstitutional. The government doesn't have to repay a bond in gold.

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} Sooooo.. in essence, I am at a loss for what you think I was trying to say.

My point being that if you don't possess the degree of knowledge with which to adequately debate the subject then you shouldn't be holding the types of viewpoints that you do.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN My point being that if you don't possess the degree of knowledge with which to adequately debate the subject then you shouldn't be holding the types of viewpoints that you do.

Hmm. So, by taking your own advice, you won't be trolling around in the 9-11 thread any more? I'll steer clear of the economics.

^^

LMFAO, good luck with that one.

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} Hmm. So, by taking your own advice, you won't be trolling around in the 9-11 thread any more? I'll steer clear of the economics.

Well, there are simple exercises in logic I am more than capable of making re 911, but if you'll notice I havent posted about 911 for a while. There's only so long you can be bukkaked with stupid.

It's more like you where getting owned by everyone opposed at your trolling in the thread.

Nice try.

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Originally posted by culorut It's more like you where getting owned by everyone opposed at your trolling in the thread. Nice try.

No, I got sick of trying to debate with those that cannot tell good evidence from bad, are unable to answer questions, who do not understand occam's razor etc etc etc. there's only so many years one can wait to be presented with a single shred of evidence. You guys have failed to do that, so I see no need to waste even more time debating with uneducated children.

You could have just as easily said you gave up because you could not suppress the truth about 9/11. It is clearly apparent you stood no chance.

Good riddance.

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Originally posted by culorut You could have just as easily said you gave up because you could not suppress the truth about 9/11. It is clearly apparent you stood no chance.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN No, I got sick of trying to debate with those that cannot tell good evidence from bad, are unable to answer questions, who do not understand occam's razor etc etc etc. there's only so many years one can wait to be presented with a single shred of evidence. You guys have failed to do that, so I see no need to waste even more time debating with uneducated children.

or quite simply refuse to debate.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN No, I got sick of trying to debate with those that cannot tell good evidence from bad, are unable to answer questions, who do not understand occam's razor etc etc etc. there's only so many years one can wait to be presented with a single shred of evidence. You guys have failed to do that, so I see no need to waste even more time debating with uneducated children.

Please explain to me in as many paragraphs that you need, how the collapse of the towers complies with the Law of Conservation of Motion, (or any Law of Physics for that matter) using the official story as your fundamentals.

I'll give you a hint: Newton's Laws are out of the question.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN No, I got sick of trying to debate with those that cannot tell good evidence from bad, are unable to answer questions, who do not understand occam's razor etc etc etc. there's only so many years one can wait to be presented with a single shred of evidence. You guys have failed to do that, so I see no need to waste even more time debating with uneducated children.

Do you realise that you parroted that conspiracy guide list? lol. You need to cut down on the Maddox and JREF, it's warping your brain. :P

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} Please explain to me in as many paragraphs that you need, how the collapse of the towers complies with the Law of Conservation of Motion, (or any Law of Physics for that matter) using the official story as your fundamentals. I'll give you a hint: Newton's Laws are out of the question.

how about you first explain how the towers dont conform to the law of conservation of momentum and how you believe explosives explain the supposed contradiction (they don't).

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} Do you realise that you parroted that conspiracy guide list? lol. You need to cut down on the Maddox and JREF, it's warping your brain. :P

that was me paraphrasing the list, and yes, of course i know that i did it.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN how about you first explain how the towers dont conform to the law of conservation of momentum and how you believe explosives explain the supposed contradiction (they don't).

Uh, OK, Rumsfeld. Answer a question with a question.

I don't think you understand what you're saying. The Official Story does not comply with the Conservation of *Momentum. Matter and gravity and their relation are absolute.

See Exhibit A of your misunderstanding of Physics



According to conservation-of-momentum laws, the block of approximately 34 floors on top of the South Tower should have continued to topple and fall through the path of least resistance: the air. It should have continued to topple and fall to the ground far outside the building�s footprint and NOT through the path of most resistance: the building itself. That same block which can be seen twisting at the start of the collapse should have kept twisting and obeyed the law of conservation of angular momentum but the rotation suddenly stopped. The stopping of both its rotation and its �toppling� can only be explained by the breakup of most of the block, which would have destroyed its moment of inertia. But there is no good explanation for the upper block to break up at the start of the collapse; unless of course, it was being broken up in a purposeful way as in a controlled demolition. This violation of physical laws alone virtually proves that the Official Story is a lie.

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Let's continue the education. Life student, eh?





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Re: Could the goverment have people on their payroll to post in forums like these?

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Originally posted by apocu I've been a "lurker" for some years on these forums, this is the first time i come to write. My question here is: How probable is it that some posters here, and in other forums that discuss politics, be on the U.S. government payroll to try to influence a very narrow reality on the things happening around the world, and to rebuke any comment that dissents with the official government position. Its a known fact that there are psy-ops operations are working around the clock to try to influence people's opinion about the daily events around the world. And please don't tell me its against the law and can't be done, because i know that feeding propaganda to the american public is illegal, but you all know that this administration selectively chooses which laws to follow. ps: yea yea my tin foil hat fits really well /sarcasm off

Why the fuck would anyone waste their time trying to convince conspiracy theorists on such a marginalized website, that would be a waste of government resources. Instead what you see are people that are self-reinforcing agents of the status quo rebelling against alternative viewpoints, some of those viewpoints are utterly ridiculous while some have their merits and could be possible. But no the U.S. government would not waste their resources on a site like this, if they really wanted to quell dissenting opinions they would probably want to infiltrate prisonplanet.com and other websites with larger membership

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