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Posted by Guest on Aug-19-2008 00:57:

jesus christ its not that complicated. Just make beats I'll tell you if its amazing music or not


Posted by Clovis on Aug-19-2008 00:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Guest
jesus christ its not that complicated. Just make beats I'll tell you if its amazing music or not


You're the one who started this retarded thread.


Posted by Guest on Aug-19-2008 01:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
You're the one who started this retarded thread.


yea i didnt write a poem about prog either. I simply argued with Doombot on the way to the city for 15 minutes about Marionette


Posted by Clovis on Aug-19-2008 01:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Guest
yea i didnt write a poem about prog either. I simply argued with Doombot on the way to the city for 15 minutes about Marionette



I'll bet that was an amazing conversation


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Aug-19-2008 01:13:

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Originally posted by nefardec
right, that is the 'glass is half full' way to see it

i say dilute because i have an obvious bias haha.


Well it's only in the last few years that prog has really taken much from techno, and that's because the prog DJs and producers are so desperate to remain cool they will sell their soul rather than continuing with what the style once stood for. I'm sure someone might argue that borrowing from techno is still within the progressive manifesto, but copying the biggest, most trendy electronic genre isn't what prog should be about.

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i like the 'concept' of progressive that you put forth here, and a good deal of many tunes that came about with that state of mind, but just like with 'minimal', when a technique or an approach becomes stratified and turned into a style or genre, that's when it begins to turn to shit.


I think that's fair to say. For the first five years or so, nobody had a fucking clue what "progressive house" really meant. Leftfield once stated in an interview that they could release a rock song and it would get called progressive house- no matter which direction they went, people just called it "progressive house". It didn't represent a set of musical characteristics, but an ethos. Then, as you say, it become stratified and there became a set of sounds people called "progressive".

I highlighted your statement because I didn't think it was fair to take a small chunk of progressive's history and say "progressive is [whatever]" based on that chunk, which you would never do to techno.


Posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs on Aug-19-2008 01:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Guest
yea i didnt write a poem about prog either. I simply argued with Doombot on the way to the city for 15 minutes about Marionette

15 minutes?

could you recap on that conversation?


Posted by shonguiz on Aug-19-2008 01:36:

Can we describe the Gas sound as techno ?


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Aug-19-2008 01:37:

"Gas sound"?


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Aug-19-2008 01:37:

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Originally posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs
15 minutes?

could you recap on that conversation?


You can recap it yourself by copying and pasting the second line of the opening post a few dozen times. You'll have to use your imagination because I doubt they spoke in free indirect discourse, but you get the idea.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Aug-19-2008 01:39:

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
You can recap it yourself by copying and pasting the second line of the opening post a few dozen times.

I had pictured them using their mouths to mimic the different sounds in the track and slapping out the beats with their hands on the dashboard of the car in the attempt to convince one another that it was either more "techno-like" or more "prog-like."


Posted by Guest on Aug-19-2008 01:40:

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
"Gas sound"?


the fuckin nitrous blast bro!!!


Posted by Guest on Aug-19-2008 01:41:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
I had pictured them using their mouths to mimic the different sounds in the track and slapping out the beats with their hands on the dashboard of the car in the attempt to convince one another that it was either more "techno-like" or more "prog-like."


its definitely techno because of how loopy it is and the fact that Sven plays it. That's really the deciding factor. Does Sven play it, yes...then it is techno.


Posted by shonguiz on Aug-19-2008 01:42:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
"Gas sound"?

W. Voigt


Posted by Guest on Aug-19-2008 01:42:

someone close this thread I just said something profound and meaningful


Posted by nefardec on Aug-19-2008 02:36:

can we get a pic of you and doombot together at some point?


Posted by Ted Promo on Aug-19-2008 03:16:

DOOMBOT people, DOOMBOT.

Everyone in here is a repeat motherfucking offender.


Posted by PETRAN on Aug-19-2008 12:26:

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Originally posted by shonguiz
W. Voigt




Original minimalistic (and kind of ambient) techno-minimalistic in a true sense of the word-taking loops from classical works, applying reverb and delay to the maximum (hence creating ambient walls of sound) and adding a slow metronomic beat to serve as the base. Very hypnotic and dreamy, i always "use" Gas when i study and stuff.


Posted by nefardec on Aug-20-2008 01:50:


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