Just Bought New Computer...Is This Good?

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Posted by malek on Aug-29-2008 00:40:

quote:
Originally posted by love_child
Im gonna fuckin snap...I brought home the computer and used t for 20 minutes and then it just froze....restarted it and then I was getting the blue screen of death...very very irritating...these guys are dimwits...I want to put XP on it and never go back to them again.

i have running on this laptop vista and never had a blue screen of death, i didn't even know Vista had that in the first place.

If there's a BSOD, it means you have a bad component or a bad driver, most probably its the ram, trust me on this one.

Posted by jpistone on Aug-29-2008 00:40:

what were you doing before it froze?
whats the last piecse of software you installed?
Did you install any USB devices? printers, memory sticks,

quote:
Originally posted by love_child
Im gonna fuckin snap...I brought home the computer and used t for 20 minutes and then it just froze....restarted it and then I was getting the blue screen of death...very very irritating...these guys are dimwits...I want to put XP on it and never go back to them again.

Posted by Dr. Z on Aug-29-2008 05:05:

anyone who buys consoles, a cheap desktop and a big ass TV fails at life, and more importantly, fails at games

Posted by love_child on Aug-29-2008 12:09:

quote:
Originally posted by jpistone
what were you doing before it froze?
whats the last piecse of software you installed?
Did you install any USB devices? printers, memory sticks,

So I turn it on...everything is running great. Very quick machine. The only thing they installed for me was the ASUS P5Q motherboard drivers. Not the Soundmax or Video drivers...I did that myself...I started downloading F.E.A.R and GRID Toca Race Driver demos to see how they run on my computer and the most odd thing is both of them finish downloading and I cant find them anywhere on my computer at all...I even did a search for the file names and remember saving them to the desktop. Finally I get GRID to download and install it and when it finishes installing I cant find the files anywhere on my PC...its like it didnt even install...very weird. So I started throwing on the basics...winzip...winrar...spybot....ad-aware...AVG Virus and the computer froze so I restarted it and got very worried...then when I got back to the desktop the screen goes blue and it sais

CRASH DUMP Saving Files 1% all the way till it reaches 100%...guessing its backing up files before reboot and keeps doing the same thing everytime I start it up. I tried doing a system restore but the same thing happens. Im going back to the store today to return everything and get my money back. I want to go to AMD Phenom anyway. These guys are fucking retarded, I bought the computer on Sunday of last week and Im still having problems a week later. I brought it back twice already. Sometimes I just feel like going to Future Shop and buying a generic brand without any hastles.

Posted by jpistone on Aug-29-2008 12:33:

if you can get your money back i would really consider taking my advice. Right now you can really get a cheap deal on a PC. I wouldn't recommend getting a pc from future shop. I think you would be really really with 1080p and a PS3.

quote:
Originally posted by love_child
So I turn it on...everything is running great. Very quick machine. The only thing they installed for me was the ASUS P5Q motherboard drivers. Not the Soundmax or Video drivers...I did that myself...I started downloading F.E.A.R and GRID Toca Race Driver demos to see how they run on my computer and the most odd thing is both of them finish downloading and I cant find them anywhere on my computer at all...I even did a search for the file names and remember saving them to the desktop. Finally I get GRID to download and install it and when it finishes installing I cant find the files anywhere on my PC...its like it didnt even install...very weird. So I started throwing on the basics...winzip...winrar...spybot....ad-aware...AVG Virus and the computer froze so I restarted it and got very worried...then when I got back to the desktop the screen goes blue and it sais

CRASH DUMP Saving Files 1% all the way till it reaches 100%...guessing its backing up files before reboot and keeps doing the same thing everytime I start it up. I tried doing a system restore but the same thing happens. Im going back to the store today to return everything and get my money back. I want to go to AMD Phenom anyway. These guys are fucking retarded, I bought the computer on Sunday of last week and Im still having problems a week later. I brought it back twice already. Sometimes I just feel like going to Future Shop and buying a generic brand without any hastles.

Posted by love_child on Aug-29-2008 12:43:

quote:
Originally posted by jpistone
if you can get your money back i would really consider taking my advice. Right now you can really get a cheap deal on a PC. I wouldn't recommend getting a pc from future shop. I think you would be really really with 1080p and a PS3.

Well I wont be the only one using it. I already have an Xbox 360 so Im fine in that area. My pops would pop a blood vessel if I bought a PS3. I dont know where to go to buy my PC. I want to go somewhere with experienced builders so I dont get fucked over. The guys at this place (Canada Computers) are all young and inexperienced so I should have known better but I was stubborn.

Posted by jpistone on Aug-29-2008 12:53:

well its very difficult and i think its safe to say that the days of a computer shop building you a pc are dead. Why not get a dell or HP gaming system. At least you will have support and if theres an issue you won't be the only one with it. Those computer shops cant make a profit unless they rip you off the margins are too low esp considering how little they buy from suppliers. Unfortunately anyone that really knows what there doin with desktops isn't going to be working at a computer shop for long they just don't make enough money. sell your xbox and throw the money into a PS3 explain to your dad that the money is better invested since it saves you from having to buy a BluRay player in the future. Plus online gaming is free with sony.

quote:
Originally posted by love_child
Well I wont be the only one using it. I already have an Xbox 360 so Im fine in that area. My pops would pop a blood vessel if I bought a PS3. I dont know where to go to buy my PC. I want to go somewhere with experienced builders so I dont get fucked over. The guys at this place (Canada Computers) are all young and inexperienced so I should have known better but I was stubborn.

Posted by zokissima on Aug-29-2008 13:18:

quote:
Originally posted by jpistone
well its very difficult and i think its safe to say that the days of a computer shop building you a pc are dead. Why not get a dell or HP gaming system.

Cuz most boutique systems are shit and overpriced. Why not build your own with the same spec, at less than half the price? Also, what's with you and the bigass LCD and PS3. Yeah, you said its a better gaming investment. It was pointed out to you that PCs on this level really don't compare to gaming consoles. It is ridiculous to compare them, since they are two markets completely segmented.

Anyways, wish I could help with the missing files, that sounds kind of questionable. I've been on Vista for a while now, and its stable as a rock.

Posted by love_child on Aug-29-2008 13:43:

quote:
Originally posted by zokissima
Cuz most boutique systems are shit and overpriced. Why not build your own with the same spec, at less than half the price? Also, what's with you and the bigass LCD and PS3. Yeah, you said its a better gaming investment. It was pointed out to you that PCs on this level really don't compare to gaming consoles. It is ridiculous to compare them, since they are two markets completely segmented.

Anyways, wish I could help with the missing files, that sounds kind of questionable. I've been on Vista for a while now, and its stable as a rock.

So what do you rekon? Buy the parts from a custom shop and get someone I know to build it? I have a few friends who are amazing with computers...funny that I didnt go to them for advice before I made my purchase...oh well. I did learn my lesson...always do research before you get fucked in the ass.

Posted by DigiNut on Aug-29-2008 18:36:

quote:
Originally posted by zokissima
Cuz most boutique systems are shit and overpriced.

Not really. The big three cut a few corners, like not including a system speaker, but these days it actually tends to be more expensive to build than buy. It may be less expensive in a few cases, but certainly not half the price!

The only reason to build today is if you need a specialized rig (games, production, media center, whatever) or if you want better control over the parts for some other reason (like keeping the noise level down).

There's the hassle of uninstalling all the shovelware on consumer PCs, or just reformatting, but even at work I don't make $400 an hour, let alone on my personal time, so I think it's worth the minor effort.

Posted by rabbitjoker on Aug-29-2008 18:51:

Just bought a new loaded Lenovo Thinkpad T61 and I'm loving it!

Posted by love_child on Aug-29-2008 19:37:

So I decided to buy a Dell XPS 630 with Dual SLI Nvidia Cards...plus itll have the support. We will see how things go.

Posted by jpistone on Aug-29-2008 21:01:

good job i know you made the right choice and its one youll be happy with

Posted by zokissima on Aug-29-2008 21:55:

quote:
Originally posted by love_child
So what do you rekon? Buy the parts from a custom shop and get someone I know to build it? I have a few friends who are amazing with computers...funny that I didnt go to them for advice before I made my purchase...oh well. I did learn my lesson...always do research before you get fucked in the ass.

Yeah, basically. Check that all the hardware is fully supported by the OS you want to install, check that all your power requirements are met, and as you're putting it together, do the obvious, and make sure every component passes the good visual check, that it is seated properly and firmly. Before you start an OS install, go into your BIOS and ensure that all the components that should be listed there, are.

Really hard to tell from what you're posting, but it does indicate either a botched build and/or install.

Posted by zokissima on Aug-29-2008 21:58:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
The only reason to build today is if you need a specialized rig (games, production, media center, whatever) or if you want better control over the parts for some other reason (like keeping the noise level down).

Yes, exactly, specialized systems. So, a system with the specs he listed in the first post would cost more from a vendor, than just buying the parts himself. Nevermind the prices for high-end gaming rigs.

Mid-grade machines meant for the typical user, yeah, I'll agree with you, building it yourself is hardly worth it...to most

So, love_child, what'd you do, return everything else?

Posted by malek on Aug-30-2008 00:20:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
Just bought a new loaded Lenovo Thinkpad T61 and I'm loving it!

i love that laptop, rocks!

Posted by love_child on Aug-30-2008 02:08:

quote:
Originally posted by zokissima
Yes, exactly, specialized systems. So, a system with the specs he listed in the first post would cost more from a vendor, than just buying the parts himself. Nevermind the prices for high-end gaming rigs.

Mid-grade machines meant for the typical user, yeah, I'll agree with you, building it yourself is hardly worth it...to most

So, love_child, what'd you do, return everything else?

I returned everything and bought a Dell XPS 630

Specs:

Base Features
Processor Type Intel Quad 2 Duo Processor Q9300
Processor Speed 2.5GHz
RAM 4GB Dual Channel DDR2
Hard Drive Speed/Capacity 500GB 7200RPM
Optical Drives 16X DVD+/-RW
Graphics 512MB Dual NVIDIA 8800GT
Pre-loaded Operating System Windows Vista Home Premium SP1
Available AGP Slots Not Applicable
Available Hard Drive Bays 1 External, 2 Internal
Available Memory Slots 4 Total (0 Available)
Available Optical Bays 1 Bay
Available PCI Slots 2 Slots
Available PCI-E Slots 1 Slot
Power Supply 750 Watts
Processor Cache 6MB L2
System Bus 1333MHZ

Posted by zoogla on Nov-22-2008 21:59:

My sis wants one of those new 13" MacBooks with the new NVIDIA graphics card, $1,399. I bought my other sis a white MacBook last boxing day on a rare inventory clear-out of previous year's model, with a $300 discount at $1,099 at that time.

Apparently, the Yorkdale mgr told me yesterday that there may be a one-day only sale at that location next Friday only. Whole story behind why there was a discount on Dec. 26/07, i can get into it if anyone wants to hear.

I would rather use my Sony points and get her a VAIO laptop for free. I have always been against Sony computing because I felt it was the MAC version of PCs, with over-glitzed products that are just a waste of money. But these are girls we are talking about (my sis) and I'd rather get it for free, lol, than spend anything this xmas (more $$$ for the M LMAO). But she's leaning on the MacBook, anyway...I thought I'd share my research, in case anyone has anything to add:

VGNFW235DH - $1,099.99 (Fahad�s fave, best value)
- 2 MB cache / 4 GB ram / 250 GB HD
- 16.4�
- BT
- Up to 5.5 hrs battery
- 6.3 lbs.
- http://www.sonystyle.ca/commerce/se...9n100299n100490

New MacBook - $1,399 (sister�s fave) (minus $200 student discount)
- 3MB cache / 2 GB ram / 160 GB HD
- 13.3�
- BT
- New NVIDIA graphics card
- Up to 5 hrs battery
- 4.5 lbs
- http://www.apple.com/ca/macbook/specs.html

VGNNS150DS - $849.99
- 2 MB cache / 4 GB ram / 250 GB HD
- 15.4�
- No BT
- Up to 4 hrs battery
- 5.7 lbs
- http://www.sonystyle.ca/commerce/se...9n100299n100525

VGNCS110DW - $999.99
- 2 MB cache / 3 GB ram / 250 GB HD
- 14.4�
- BT
- Up to 4 hrs battery
- 5.7 lbs
- http://www.sonystyle.ca/commerce/se...9n100299n100520

MacBook White - $1,149 (minus $200 student discount)
- 2.1 GHz (0.1 GHz faster than the others)
- 3 MB cache / 1 GB ram / 120 GB HD
- 13.3�
- Old graphics card
- No BT
- Up to 4.5 hrs battery
- 5 lbs
- http://www.apple.com/ca/macbook/white/specs.html

Posted by smuncky on Nov-22-2008 22:31:

ew mac

Posted by Prometheus Xex on Nov-22-2008 23:54:

When I first put my current system together I paid about $1200 for the quad core extreme alone since it was just new on the market. Between the water cooler, MOBO, ETC, I almost dropped 3 grand on it. Now I've got a new TB hard drive bringing total capacity of storage to about 1.6 TB