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Posted by UWM on Oct-01-2008 14:30:

quote:
Originally posted by iammesol
I agreed with McCain on three things, but the rest went to Barack

Posted by Roweazie on Oct-01-2008 14:35:

Okey, PPL...how about you educ. me? Tell me why Oboma is better than McCain or vice versa? Dont pull the race/old bull SHIT!!!Thats just pure ignorance. Dont bash on ppl because their on the other side of the fence, instead of bashing explain them/me on why his better.

again, i'm still undecided on who to vote for...i'm looking for whats best for me as a middle class. seriously how often do you hear anything about the running mates in anything other than when they get elected into office.

Posted by nchs09 on Oct-01-2008 14:39:

Posted by nchs09 on Oct-01-2008 14:41:

I dunno what questions i agreed with Mccain but

Posted by ziptnf on Oct-01-2008 14:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Roweazie
Okey, PPL...how about you educ. me? Tell me why Oboma is better than McCain or vice versa? Dont pull the race/old bull SHIT!!!Thats just pure ignorance. Dont bash on ppl because their on the other side of the fence, instead of bashing explain them/me on why his better.

again, i'm still undecided on who to vote for...i'm looking for whats best for me as a middle class. seriously how often do you hear anything about the running mates in anything other than when they get elected into office.

You're not alone. A lot of undecided middle class voters are torn on who to vote for. I won't bash you for racism or anything like that (however, a lot of people who are educated and keep up with the news, yet STILL want to vote McCain ARE uncomfortable with a black president, no way to spin that...), but please try to keep an open mind.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politi...S-tax30.article

This article outlines each of the candidates plans very well. As a middle class American, the choice should be clear if you're the kind of person who enjoys a little extra cash. Obama's Tax plan has room for economic growth, whereas McCain's plan has little interest in the middle class and will undertake at least another 300 billion dollar deficit. Make the right decision, man.

Posted by Roweazie on Oct-01-2008 14:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
I live in a swing state, and this is what they play here:

The attack ads with the ominous music? Those are McCain ads.

And more are coming:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/14146.html
I cant view the video but what is that got to do with me being a racist? In south florida 95% of the compaign ad's is from Obama. "and i approve this message" I hered their will be two type of tax to vote for. keep the old one or new one? as for political party, i did register as "NONE".

Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Oct-01-2008 15:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Roweazie
I cant view the video but what is that got to do with me being a racist? In south florida 95% of the compaign ad's is from Obama. "and i approve this message" I hered their will be two type of tax to vote for. keep the old one or new one? as for political party, i did register as "NONE".

I didn't call you racist - I just said the Obama campaign is running issue ads, not racial or attack ads.

Posted by Roweazie on Oct-01-2008 15:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
I didn't call you racist - I just said the Obama campaign is running issue ads, not racial or attack ads.
I apologized for that.

Posted by iammesol on Oct-01-2008 16:20:

quote:
Originally posted by ziptnf
You're not alone. A lot of undecided middle class voters are torn on who to vote for. I won't bash you for racism or anything like that (however, a lot of people who are educated and keep up with the news, yet STILL want to vote McCain ARE uncomfortable with a black president, no way to spin that...), but please try to keep an open mind.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politi...S-tax30.article

This article outlines each of the candidates plans very well. As a middle class American, the choice should be clear if you're the kind of person who enjoys a little extra cash. Obama's Tax plan has room for economic growth, whereas McCain's plan has little interest in the middle class and will undertake at least another 300 billion dollar deficit. Make the right decision, man.

Thanks for the article. Check this.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...8060900950.html

Posted by Roweazie on Oct-01-2008 17:43:

I'm looking at the downside of tax cut from Oboma vs McCain. Lets say Obama win as presidency and we recvd the 1k+ tax cut a year. What will happen then as business owner about your tax increase?

It seems like i won't be able to notice any tax deference within the 4yrs from McCain. With McCain tax plan, will it increase more job opening/business?

whats your thought?

Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Oct-01-2008 17:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Roweazie
I'm looking at the downside of tax cut from Oboma vs McCain. Lets say Obama win as presidency and we recvd the 1k+ tax cut a year. What will happen then as business owner about your tax increase?

It seems like i won't be able to notice any tax deference within the 4yrs from McCain. With McCain tax plan, will it increase more job opening/business?

whats your thought?

The main problem is that McCain has no real tax plan other than to extend the Bush tax cuts that were set to sunset on their own - they were never meant to be permanent because they aren't fiscally viable. That, and they benefit primarily upper income families and people who make enough in stock dividends to feel an impact (aka not Middle America).

Posted by Sukhoi29SU on Oct-02-2008 00:08:

quote:
Originally posted by ziptnf
(however, a lot of people who are educated and keep up with the news, yet STILL want to vote McCain ARE uncomfortable with a black president, no way to spin that...)

"a lot of people who are educated and keep up with the news" ... what?
You're a blatant dumbass.
Do you really believe all educated McCain supporters are racist?

quote:
Originally posted by ziptnf
As a middle class American, the choice should be clear if you're the kind of person who enjoys a little extra cash.

Pffffffft!
Reality check, dickhead:
liberalism = bigger government, increased spending, and higher taxes.
http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/
Wow, imagine that...

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer

LOL

wow just wow.Is there there alot people like you down there?please dont vote this election.

wow just wow. Yes, "there there is alot people like me"- And we're all voting.
Please don't impregnate any woman - you stupid fuck.

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov

The main problem is that McCain has no real tax plan other than to extend the Bush tax cuts that were set to sunset on their own - they were never meant to be permanent because they aren't fiscally viable. That, and they benefit primarily upper income families and people who make enough in stock dividends to feel an impact (aka not Middle America).

Seriously?
Obama's position(s) on taxes (along with the war in Iraq, guns, public financing, FISA, etc. etc) have shifted quicker than Wotyzoid is able to make a complete fool of himself online. It's ridiculous.

Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Oct-02-2008 01:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Sukhoi29SU

Seriously?
Obama's position(s) on taxes (along with the war in Iraq, guns, public financing, FISA, etc. etc) have shifted quicker than Wotyzoid is able to make a complete fool of himself online. It's ridiculous.

I'd be interested in knowing how. I've been following the campaign pretty closely, and I haven't seen any such dramatic shift that you're talking about on taxes or Iraq. I've been fairly open on my criticism of Obama on FISA, however, and agree with you that he should not have switched positions there. In fact, I was kind of glad to see that he suffered a bit politically from that reversal as well.

Posted by josh rising on Oct-02-2008 01:20:

i'm conservative and currently undecided. i don't really like any of them, and although i do lean slightly more towards mccain instead of obama, it's really scary to think that one heart attack could put clueless sarah palin as president of the U.S. it's a good thing i'm probably moving outta the country when i graduate college!

Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Oct-02-2008 01:20:

quote:
Originally posted by josh rising
i'm conservative and currently undecided. i don't really like any of them, and although i do lean slightly more towards mccain instead of obama, it's really scary to think that one heart attack could put clueless sarah palin as president of the U.S. it's a good thing i'm probably moving outta the country when i graduate college!

I'm curious as to why you're leaning McCain.

Posted by Alex on Oct-02-2008 01:34:

Sukhoi29SU

You know out of the last 4 presidents, only one managed to run any sort of surplus and it was Bill Clinton... Pretty sure he was a liberal too.

* Only 5 of the past 40 budgets have been surpluses. All 5 were by Democratic presidents.

* The twenty years of budgets prepared by Republican presidents increased the national debt by $3,800,000,000,000. The average yearly deficit under Republican budgets was $190 billion.

Source:
http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/Deficit

Posted by wotyzoid on Oct-02-2008 01:43:

Posted by woscar on Oct-02-2008 02:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
I'm curious as to why you're leaning McCain.

He's Hitler

Posted by ziptnf on Oct-02-2008 04:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Sukhoi29SU
"a lot of people who are educated and keep up with the news" ... what?
You're a blatant dumbass.
Do you really believe all educated McCain supporters are racist?

Pffffffft!
Reality check, dickhead:
liberalism = bigger government, increased spending, and higher taxes.
http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/
Wow, imagine that...

wow just wow. Yes, "there there is alot people like me"- And we're all voting.
Please don't impregnate any woman - you stupid fuck

Seriously?
Obama's position(s) on taxes (along with the war in Iraq, guns, public financing, FISA, etc. etc) have shifted quicker than Wotyzoid is able to make a complete fool of himself online. It's ridiculous.

Posted by iammesol on Oct-02-2008 04:43:

Posted by flavdave on Oct-02-2008 04:50:

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
I dunno what questions i agreed with Mccain but

Did you holler at Wendy?

Posted by aNYthing on Oct-02-2008 19:00:

LOL, here goes 1/2 of Philly voting population:

source: http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/new...ghborhoods.html

I love this town!

Posted by nchs09 on Oct-02-2008 19:25:

quote:
Originally posted by flavdave
Did you holler at Wendy?
I didnt

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