TranceAddict Forums (www.tranceaddict.com/forums)
- Political Discussion / Debate
-- Colin Powell Endorses Obama
Pages (7): « 1 2 3 [4] 5 6 7 »
A libertarian endorsement for Obama:
| quote: |
| Why the Republicans Must Lose Nothing short of defeat will put the GOP back on its limited government track Radley Balko | October 22, 2008 I grew up in a particularly conservative part of the already conservative state of Indiana. I voted for Bob Dole in 1996 and George Bush in 2000, generally because�though I'm not a conservative (I'm a libertarian)�I'd always thought the GOP was the party of limited government. By 2002, I was less sure of that. And by 2004, I was so fed up with the party that I did what I thought I'd never do�vote for an unabashed leftist for president. Since then, "fed up" has soured to "given up." The Republican Party has exiled its Goldwater-Reagan wing and given up all pretense of any allegiance to limited government. In the last eight years, the GOP has given us a monstrous new federal bureaucracy in the Department of Homeland Security. In the prescription drug benefit, it's given us the largest new federal entitlement since the Johnson administration. Federal spending�even on items not related to war or national security�has soared. And we now get to watch as the party that's supposed to be "free market" nationalizes huge chunks of the economy's financial sector. This isn't to say that Barack Obama would be any better. Government would undoubtedly grow under his watch. And from my libertarian perspective, he has been increasingly disappointing even on the issues where he's supposed to be good. We may not go to war with Iran in an Obama administration, but we'd likely become entrenched in a prolonged nation-building adventure in the Sudan. Obama's vote on the FISA bill and telecom immunity also suggests that, for all his criticisms of President Bush's use of executive power and assaults on civil liberties, Obama wouldn't be much better. On the drug war, Obama has promised to end the federal raids on medical marijuana clinics in states that have legalized the drug for treatment, but he wants to resurrect failed federal criminal justice block grant programs that have had some disastrous effects on civil liberties. While I'm not thrilled at the prospect of an Obama administration (especially with a friendly Congress), the Republicans still need to get their clocks cleaned in two weeks, for a couple of reasons. First, they had their shot at holding power, and they failed. They've failed in staying true to their principles of limited government and free markets. They've failed in preventing elected leaders of their party from becoming corrupted by the trappings of power, and they've failed to hold those leaders accountable after the fact. Congressional Republicans failed to rein in the Bush administration's naked bid to vastly expand the power of the presidency (a failure they're going to come to regret should Obama take office in January). They failed to apply due scrutiny and skepticism to the administration's claims before undertaking Congress' most solemn task�sending the nation to war. I could go on. As for the Bush administration, the only consistent principle we've seen from the White House over the last eight years is that of elevating the American president (and, I guess, the vice president) to that of an elected dictator. That isn't hyperbole. This administration believes that on any issue that can remotely be tied to foreign policy or national security (and on quite a few other issues as well), the president has boundless, limitless, unchecked power to do anything he wants. They believe that on these matters, neither Congress nor the courts can restrain him. That's the second reason the GOP needs to lose. American voters need to send a clear, convincing repudiation of these dangerous ideas. If they do lose, the GOP would be wise to regroup and rebuild from scratch, scrap the current leadership, and, most importantly, purge the party of the "national greatness," neoconservative influence. Big-government conservatism has bloated the federal government, bogged us down in what will ultimately be a trillion-dollar war, and set us down the road to European-style socialism. It's hard to think of how Obama could be worse. He'll just be bad in different ways. The truth is, unless you vote for a third-party candidate (which really isn't a bad idea), you don't have much of a choice this November. You can either endorse the idea of a massive, invasive, ever-encroaching federal government that's used to promote center-left ideology, or you can endorse the idea of a massive, invasive, ever-encroaching federal government that's used to promote center-right ideology. Sadly, if the GOP does lose, it's likely to be interpreted not as a repudiation of the GOP's excesses, but as an endorsement of the Democrats'. When the only two parties who have a chance at winning both have a track record of expanding the size and scope of government, every election is likely to be interpreted as a win for big government�only the brand changes. Voting yourself more freedom simply isn't an option, at least if you want your vote to be taken seriously (and I'm not denigrating any third parties here; I'm just reflecting reality). Which brings me back to why the Republicans need to get throttled: A humiliated, decimated GOP that rejuvenates and rebuilds around the principles of limited government, free markets, and rugged individualism is really the only chance for voters to possibly get a real choice in federal elections down the road. Of course, there's no guarantee that's how the party will emerge from defeat. But the Republican Party in its current form has forfeited its right to govern. |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Again with allegations you haven't proven at all. How are either organizations tangibly working toward one world government? You act as if globalization is a bad (or avoidable) outcome, yet its the inevitable result of a capitalist society in this technological world. If you believe that these organizations are somehow controlling the world irrevocably, please provide proof. K? Thanks, much obliged. |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov You act as if globalization is a bad (or avoidable) outcome, yet its the inevitable result of a capitalist society in this technological world. |
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that
unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my
country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of
corruption in high places will follow, and the money power
of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working
upon the prejudices of the people, until the wealth is
aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is
destroyed...a great industrial nation is controlled by its
system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated.
The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities
are in the hands of a few men...we have come to be one of
the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and
dominated governments in the civilized world - no longer a
government by free opinion, no longer a government by
conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government
by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominent men."
.
Abraham Lincoln, shortly before
he was assassinated.
| quote: |
| Originally posted by {b.s.e.} "If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by {b.s.e.} |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by The17sss you're right, you're right... I was fired up from Groundhog Boy's attacks and the F-bomb's came out  |
Pardon me, fuck you. Hold this for me...
As they say..."When Obama sneezes, the whole world catches a cold."
Even better...
| quote: |
| McCain Backer Attacked, Mutilated in Pittsburgh Here's what went down with the McCain/Palin supporter who was allegedly attacked in Pennsylvania last night. According to Pittsburgh cops, around 9:30 PM last night, a female was robbed after she went to the ATM. The victim says during the robbery, the assailant saw the McCain/Palin sticker on her car and became "enraged." He struck her and knocked her down, and allegedly carved a "B" on her cheek. The assailant is still at large. Police tell us all they have is a description -- a man, 6'4", with dark skin and dark clothes. A McCain spokesman confirmed to TMZ the victim volunteered in McCain's Pennsylvania office. |
| quote: | ||
| Originally posted by Shakka Even better...
Politics...ain't it a bitch. |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by Shakka Politics...ain't it a bitch. |
Add Scott McClellan to the high-profile Republican endorsement list:
| quote: |
| Former Bush press secretary backs Obama By DAVID BAUDER � 57 minutes ago NEW YORK (AP) � Scott McClellan, President Bush's former press secretary, says he is backing Barack Obama for president. McClellan made the endorsement during a taping of Comedian D.L. Hughley's new show that is premiering on CNN this weekend. The former Bush administration official said he wanted to support the candidate that has the best chance for changing the way Washington works and getting things done. He's the second former Bush administration figure this week to publicly back Obama, following former Secretary of State Colin Powell. McClellan caused bitterness among his former co-workers with a tell-all book that criticized Bush. |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by Groundhog Boy Awww...poor baby. If you don't want to be called a complete fuckwad, don't post idiotic diatribes by people who followed up that post with this outburst on Monday. If it walks like a duck.... |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by Renegade Add Scott McClellan to the high-profile Republican endorsement list: |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by The17sss You're fucking dumb, dude. |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by The17sss Ohhh... ok I gotcha. If that's what Powell said, it must be true. Take him at his word now when he supports your messiah and savior, but not when he speaks to the UN about WMD's. So Powell says it's because Obama's nomination would be historic and transformational... ok, in what way other than race would it be? Because, his policies are not new. You're fucking dumb, dude. |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by Renegade McClellan made the endorsement during a taping of Comedian D.L. Hughley's new show that is premiering on CNN this weekend. |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov I was going to make a post of condemnation in response to that article snippet... but then I saw that TMZ (the celeb gossip site) is apparently the sole source. So I'm going to keep my skepticism for the moment. |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by Shakka lol...TMZ is indeed not a reliable sole source. But believe it bitch! http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com...356/detail.html |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by Shakka Pardon me, fuck you. Hold this for me... As they say..."When Obama sneezes, the whole world catches a cold." Even better... Politics...ain't it a bitch. |
| quote: |
| Police: McCain volunteer made up robbery story JOE MANDAK The Associated Press PITTSBURGH - A McCain campaign volunteer made up a story of being robbed, pinned to the ground and having the letter "B" scratched on her face in a politically inspired attack, police said Friday. Ashley Todd, 20-year-old college student from College Station, Texas, admitted Friday that the story was false and was being charged with making a false report to police, said Maurita Bryant, the assistant chief of the police department's investigations division. Police doubted her story from the start, Bryant said. Todd, who is white, told police she was attacked by a 6-foot-4 black man Wednesday night. She now can't explain why she invented the story, Bryant said. Todd also told police she believes she cut the backward "B" onto her own cheek, but did not provide an explanation of how or why, Bryant said. Todd initially told investigators she was attempting to use a bank branch ATM when the man approached her from behind, put a knife with a 4- to 5-inch blade to her throat and demanded money. She told police she handed the assailant $60 and walked away. Todd told investigators that she suspected the man then noticed a John McCain sticker on her car, became angry and punched her in the back of the head, knocking her to the ground and telling her "you are going to be a Barack supporter," police said. She said he continued to punch and kick her while threatening "to teach her a lesson for being a McCain supporter," police said. She said he then sat on her chest, pinned her hands down with his knees and scratched a backward letter "B" into her face with a dull knife. Todd told police she didn't seek medical attention, but instead went to a friend's apartment nearby and called police about 45 minutes later. The Associated Press could not immediately locate Todd's family. Bryant said somebody charged with making a false report would typically be cited and sent a summons. But because police have concerns about Todd's mental health, they are consulting with the Allegheny County District Attorney. She remained in custody and was awaiting arraignment. Todd worked in New York for the College Republican National Committee before moving two weeks ago to Pennsylvania, where her duties included recruiting college students, the committee's executive director, Ethan Eilon, has said. Eilon declined to comment on the investigation Friday or to help The Associated Press contact Todd. Earlier Friday, police said they had found inconsistencies in Todd's story. They gave her a lie-detector test, but wouldn't release the polygraph results. Investigators also said bank surveillance photos did not back up the woman's initial story of being attacked at an ATM. Police interviewed Todd after she contacted police Wednesday night and again on Thursday, Bryant said. They asked her to come back Friday, ostensibly to help police put together a sketch of the man. Instead, detectives began interviewing her. "They just started talking to her and she just opened up and said she wanted to tell the truth," Bryant said. Bryant said it doesn't appear that anyone else put the woman up to the false report. Police suspected all along that Todd might not be telling the truth, starting with the fact that the "B" was backward, Bryant said. "We have robbers here in Pittsburgh, but they don't generally mutilate someone's face like that," Bryant said. "They just take the money and run." Find this article at: http://www.philly.com/philly/wires/...rd=102408120710 |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by josh4 Not sure what to make of this one. |
| quote: |
| Todd, who is white, told police she was attacked by a 6-foot-4 black man Wednesday night. She now can't explain why she invented the story, Bryant said. Todd also told police she believes she cut the backward "B" onto her own cheek, but did not provide an explanation of how or why, |
.
Did she punch herself in the face too? I think there's more to this story than meets the eye (no pun intended), and I don't necessarily mean from a political standpoint.
what a fucking dumb whore. how desperate can one by for attention?
wamp wamp:
| quote: |
| Charles Fried, a professor at Harvard Law School, has long been one of the most important conservative thinkers in the United States. Under President Reagan, he served, with great distinction, as Solicitor General of the United States. Since then, he has been prominently associated with several Republican leaders and candidates, most recently John McCain, for whom he expressed his enthusiastic support in January. This week, Fried announced that he has voted for Obama-Biden by absentee ballot. In his letter to Trevor Potter, the General Counsel to the McCain-Palin campaign, he asked that his name be removed from the several campaign-related committees on which he serves. In that letter, he said that chief among the reasons for his decision "is the choice of Sarah Palin at a time of deep national crisis." |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by josh4 Not sure what to make of this one. |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by josh4 Not sure what to make of this one. |
| quote: |
| "If the incident turns out to be a hoax, Senator McCain�s quest for the presidency is over, forever linked to race-baiting." - VP of Fox News http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2...23/jmoody_1023/ |
Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright © 2000-2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.