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Posted by denys envy on Oct-21-2008 19:27:

Alrighty then. Well my personal favorite is the Monte Lomas '05 Malbec. It drinks like a $35 and costs half of that, depending on where you shop. I stocked up around 8 bottle because I keep hearing they're gonna boost up to at least $25 after the new year.

I don't reall drink whites, and when I do I enjoy a good Sauv. blanc. California has some great one's for under $15 to just have around during the summer, or with fish/seafood.

Bogle makes good, moderately priced, Petit Syrahs. The name is a bit misleading because from my experience they are big and flavorful wines, probably my favorite for the cold weather/winter season we're getting into.

As you can tell I hardly spend more than $20 on wine. Not that I haven't done it before, but at the rate I go through them at my place it's hardly worth it. Usually will go through 2-5 bottles a week, depending on what's going on. Most of my friends know that when they come over a good "gift" is to just bring a bottle of wine. Instead of flowers, as is customary, after my performances I usually get wine as a congratulations.

On any random night there's anywhere between 25-35 bottles at my place, half of them won't be touched for the next 5-7 years. Most of them are $40+ per as it is - hence why if I buy anything to drink right away it's cheap.


Posted by elFreak on Oct-21-2008 19:32:

you should not spend a lot anyway if it is just to drink. There are tons of decent table wines out there that will not hurt your budget.

Spending a little more on a bottle is more for gifts/hosting and when you really are trying to match flavors to specific dishes.

when it comes to drinking "cheap" wines i will just go jacob's creek and yellowtail. They go down good and i can drink 3 bottles for around 30$


Posted by Krypton on Oct-21-2008 19:38:

What is so special about old wines? Why is an unopened wine bottle from 1950 so special?


Posted by denys envy on Oct-21-2008 19:39:

quote:
Originally posted by elFreak
you should not spend a lot anyway if it is just to drink. There are tons of decent table wines out there that will not hurt your budget.

Spending a little more on a bottle is more for gifts/hosting and when you really are trying to match flavors to specific dishes.

when it comes to drinking "cheap" wines i will just go jacob's creek and yellowtail. They go down good and i can drink 3 bottles for around 30$


yellowtail is what i open when my crackhead friends come over @6:30 AM after a night of DJing the only, and gayest, afterhours club in Baltimore. nothing like cocaine and yellowtail to welcome the sun in proper.


Posted by elFreak on Oct-21-2008 19:40:

because it is rare.

a rare wine does not have to be from 1950 to be expensive. It can be a very risky investment as well, because sometimes you can end up with 200$ vinegar.


Posted by elFreak on Oct-21-2008 19:41:

quote:
Originally posted by denys envy
yellowtail is what i open when my crackhead friends come over @6:30 AM after a night of DJing the only, and gayest, afterhours club in Baltimore. nothing like cocaine and yellowtail to welcome the sun in proper.


i usually buy a case from costco and keep it handy. I don't drink beer anymore and it is also good when you have guests that are not worthy of anything over 10 bucks.


Posted by denys envy on Oct-21-2008 19:43:

quote:
Originally posted by elFreak
guests that are not worthy of anything over 10 bucks.


precisely


Posted by Jabberwocky on Oct-21-2008 19:50:

quote:
Originally posted by ZeJayMan
There is a small region called Ribera Del Duero .








Awesome, amazing and so on and so forth. Went tasting here, just spectacular. It's mainly spanish reds I pour and let aerate, otherwise I get knocked the fuck out. Don't know how the bottles don't just combust.

Spanish men/women/ their wine, it's all the same.


Posted by elFreak on Oct-21-2008 20:02:

also serano ham and tapas.


Posted by Jabberwocky on Oct-21-2008 20:04:

quote:
Originally posted by denys envy
The name is a bit misleading because from my experience they are big and flavorful wines, probably my favorite for the cold weather/winter season we're getting into.



YesS I IV it in winter, I don't have heat.

It's not misleading, the varietal is much smaller, thicker skinned than most. Thicker skin = tannin = pucker, robust, big, etc.

I'd love to build a small collection of 25-30. Any racks/coolers you suggest?


Posted by elFreak on Oct-21-2008 20:08:



have this

http://www.vinumdesign.com/store/wi...ars.php?id=1508

you can get it cheaper than that price though, especially used.

racvin also makes nice ones but i do not know if they ship to where you are.


Posted by fbgdavidson on Oct-21-2008 22:25:

quote:
Originally posted by elFreak
also serano ham and tapas.


Pata negra FTW. That stuff makes serrano ham look like bologna!

quote:
Originally posted by elFreak
a rare wine does not have to be from 1950 to be expensive. It can be a very risky investment as well, because sometimes you can end up with 200$ vinegar.


That's why most old wine is usually only worth it if it is from well respected vineyard; Mouton Rothschild, Petrus, Lafite Rothschild, Latour, as they have a reputation for producing better wine. Less chance of getting an old duffer.


Posted by denys envy on Oct-21-2008 22:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Jabberwocky
I'd love to build a small collection of 25-30. Any racks/coolers you suggest?


i suggest getting a dual zone cooler. it's better to keep the ones you're gonna age at a cooler temp and just in general not disturb them by moving the rack and letting sunlight in etc.

the ones you will drink fairly soon can be kept above at a much more drinkable temp so you can just take them out whenever and open right away.

mine was a move-in present from my parents and they got it at target -



http://www.target.com/gp/detail.htm...&LNM=B0018MZHU2|Avanti_Black_Avanti_Dual_Zone_Wine_Cooler_-_40_bottle&ref=tgt_adv_XSN10001

it's pretty decent actually. and i got it for free so i'm not complaining. i'm sure there's better ones out there but it's doing the job i need it to.


Posted by wienerschnitzel on Oct-21-2008 22:44:

i prefer reds.. lately i've been drinking kellys revenge

which has unfortunately is being discontinued where i live so i have to find some other glug.


Posted by gehzumteufel on Oct-21-2008 22:45:

quote:
Originally posted by wienerschnitzel
i prefer reds.. lately i've been drinking kellys revenge

which has unfortunately is being discontinued where i live so i have to find some other glug.

Or just time to move to a place that carries it?


Posted by BuffaloJared on Oct-21-2008 23:48:

good local stuff

http://www.bullyhill.com/

but I like



smoking loon


Posted by biznology on Oct-22-2008 00:12:

corbett canyon pinot grigio box, ftw...

unless you are the biggest snob in the world, this is the best, cheapest wine deal. tastes great, very little headache if you have too much...


Posted by on Oct-22-2008 01:38:

Any wine discussion quick reveals how much people's self worth is attached to a particular brand of wine. When it comes to tasting most ppl can't tell the difference between $6 vs $14 bottle of wine. The label/marketing/price has the biggest impact on the person's opinion of the wine. Don't believe me try pouring an expensive wine into a cheapo bottle see what reaction you get.


Posted by fbgdavidson on Oct-22-2008 03:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Delmar
Any wine discussion quick reveals how much people's self worth is attached to a particular brand of wine. When it comes to tasting most ppl can't tell the difference between $6 vs $14 bottle of wine. The label/marketing/price has the biggest impact on the person's opinion of the wine. Don't believe me try pouring an expensive wine into a cheapo bottle see what reaction you get.


This was the point I was trying to make on the first page. At the very cheap end there are quite a lot of fillers and it tastes horrible. Once you get above a certain threshold, maybe even a low level like $8/bottle then it is more difficult to tell.


Posted by Axer on Oct-22-2008 04:22:

yeah but I finished it


Posted by narcism on Oct-22-2008 04:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Delmar
Any wine discussion quick reveals how much people's self worth is attached to a particular brand of wine. When it comes to tasting most ppl can't tell the difference between $6 vs $14 bottle of wine. The label/marketing/price has the biggest impact on the person's opinion of the wine. Don't believe me try pouring an expensive wine into a cheapo bottle see what reaction you get.


I tend to disagree, when i go to a bar and ask for a glass wine, i can tell instantly they have given me some cheap wine because it tastes like shit


Posted by gehzumteufel on Oct-22-2008 04:39:

quote:
Originally posted by narcism
I tend to disagree, when i go to a bar and ask for a glass wine, i can tell instantly they have given me some cheap wine because it tastes like shit

I am the same with vodka.


Posted by nchs09 on Oct-22-2008 04:42:

Bought a nice gnarly head merlot,...... becoming a nice little wine for my taste buds.


Posted by basd on Oct-22-2008 05:09:

quote:
Originally posted by narcism
I tend to disagree, when i go to a bar and ask for a glass wine, i can tell instantly they have given me some cheap wine because it tastes like shit

Isn't that what bars do? Sell you cheap run of the mill wine because that's where they profit the most from?

[/captainobvious]

And I can relate to gehzumteufel, I can tell with vodka as well. Having a $10 headache from two servings a $4 (plastic) bottle of vodka (bought at this classy joint where they also sold petrol for some reason) teaches you stuff


Personally, I wouldn't say I'm a wine expert, but I know when something tastes like shit. I usually go with Italian reds (Montepulciano d'Ambruzzo) because they generally aren't too heavy and woody.

I'm more of a hard liquor guy, though.


Posted by narcism on Oct-22-2008 05:23:

quote:
Originally posted by basd
Isn't that what bars do? Sell you cheap run of the mill wine because that's where they profit the most from?

[/captainobvious]



not when they have a wine list...


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