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Just because something is released under Soundpiercing or Anjunaeep doesn't mean it's not Armada/Anjuna...

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Originally posted by Trance-MB What's a few? I had a look at just 3 ASOT sessions: Anjunadeep Armind Cloud 9 Deep Blue Discover Enhanced Records Euphonic Eve Recordings Flashover Recordings fluxdelux High Contrast Nu Breed In Charge Records Island Def Jam Maelstrom Motion records Nettwerk Red Force Recordings Shah Music Spinnin Soundcolours Soundpiercing Vandit World Club Music

almost everything here is sublabels of each other as far as i know:

Disvover/Flux Deluxe/Eve
Soundpiercing/Armind
Enhanced/Euphonic/
Spinning/In Charge/High Contrast
Anjuna/Deep Blue

i might be wrong on some of these, please correct me. Im really not updated but it seems like nothing has changed since 2004.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 exactly. the same labels being repeated on every episode. Armind, Anjuna, Flashover, Euphonic, Intuition blablalbla

omg give it a rest

holy crap, label war!



Steve Allen & Ben Alonzi feat. Tiff Lacey - Wildfires (Jonathan Martin Remix) is not on the list

The Doppler Effect - Beauty Hides In The Deep (The Blizzard Remix) is though. Agreed on Vibrasphere - Autumn Lights


bleh, voting.

I play tracks that aren't even thought of yet.

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Originally posted by palm almost everything here is sublabels of each other as far as i know: Disvover/Flux Deluxe/Eve Soundpiercing/Armind Enhanced/Euphonic/ Spinning/In Charge/High Contrast Anjuna/Deep Blue i might be wrong on some of these, please correct me. Im really not updated but it seems like nothing has changed since 2004.

I know, just didn't mention it. Just was wondering how the complete label list would look like and see if the statement of just a few would be correct.

A statement that 75% or so played are from the same labels or sublabels would be more correct IMO.

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Originally posted by Trance-MB A statement that 75% or so played are from the same labels or sublabels would be more correct IMO.

wow. so a whopping 25% are from other labels. That's what I call a diverse show!

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Originally posted by RebeL9 wow. so a whopping 25% are from other labels. That's what I call a diverse show!

Just calculate then how many tracks that would be.


Would Armin select tracks by looking at the label first or would it be that most tracks he likes (or his audience likes), happen to come from the same label and sub-labels?

To me it's kind of logical that he plays more from labels which release tracks which meet his taste.
I don't know any numbers but would these labels maybe also release much more tracks then other labels?

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Originally posted by Neo95gt Pjanoo? Rofl

Yeah,

its quiet hard to detect 5 tunes in this list that I like. There arent even those tunes from the trance corner in the list I liked. Stuff like:

Joonas Hahmo - Cocktail Bar
Glenn Morrison - Blue Skies With Linda
Leon Bolier - Dnjepro (all other Bolier tunez are there, but not hios best lol)
Marcus Schossow - Crepuscolo

These 4 are the only tunez from the Anjuna/Armada/Spinnin-Corner I would normally would vote on, but as I took the time to look thru the lsi I voted these 5:

1. Pjanoo
2. Metaverse (Emery Remix)
3. Pandora (Blizzard Remix)
4. La Guitarra
5. Ocean Drive Boulevard

None of these 5 would be in my top 250 of the year lol.

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Originally posted by factory81 Cressida - 6AM (Kyau & Albert Remix) Does anyone not love this track as much as I do?

+ 1.. so so so good.

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Originally posted by Trance-MB Just calculate then how many tracks that would be. Would Armin select tracks by looking at the label first or would it be that most tracks he likes (or his audience likes), happen to come from the same label and sub-labels? To me it's kind of logical that he plays more from labels which release tracks which meet his taste. I don't know any numbers but would these labels maybe also release much more tracks then other labels?

Armin has people to pick the tracks for him, he's not the only one involved in ASOT tracklisting.

So yeh, his guys negotiate with the usual labels on deals, and then Armin plays whatever they got the best deal for.

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Originally posted by Unable Armin has people to pick the tracks for him, he's not the only one involved in ASOT tracklisting. So yeh, his guys negotiate with the usual labels on deals, and then Armin plays whatever they got the best deal for.

That's quite an accusation. Do you have proof to back it up?
What kind of deals are we talking about here? Money?
Or "I play your track if you play mine"?

I'm not making any accusation, it's just perhaps an explanation as to why there's such a narrow spectrum of labels. Tracklisting for such a commercial show doesn't just involve listening to music and finding great tracks, otherwise you wouldn't need other people to help you.

Money wouldn't be involved, I highly doubt it would ever get to that point. (direct financial benefit anyway)

It's more all the label politics that goes on, Armin can't physically play a track which he hasn't received. He can't rip from youtube and play it, he has to be given a pre-release copy which means he needs permission from the producer/label.

At the end of the day people want to hear the most popular hits on ASOT so Armin's always going to want to play A&B tracks etc, but A&B want exclusive Anjuna exposure for a while but still want to reach a maximum audience so eventually they let others play them. Vice-Versa of course.

How often do you think Armin gets a track from an "unknown" producer/label and listens to it and thinks "oh this is cool I'll play this on ASOT".

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Originally posted by Kaity Armin van Buuren & DJ Shah featuring Chris Jones - Going Wrong (DJ Shah's Magic Island Remix) Mr. Sam featuring Claud9 - Cygnes DJ Tatana - Spring Breeze (Martin Roth SummerStyle Remix) Nadia Ali - Crash and Burn (DJ Shah Magic Island Remix) Orjan Nilsen - La Guitarra (Original Mix)

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Originally posted by Kaity Alex M.O.R.P.H. - Walk The Edge (Alex M.O.R.P.H. B2B Woody van Eyden Remix) dont understand how this track even makes it onto ASOT let alone in someone's pic for their top 5 the breakdown is ghey to the extreme maximum

WTE is actually probably one of the few decent tunes played on ASOT this year.

You're supporting 'Going Wrong' as one of the BEST tunes on ASOT?

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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_ WTE is actually probably one of the few decent tunes played on ASOT this year. You're supporting 'Going Wrong' as one of the BEST tunes on ASOT?

Ehmm, he's not alone...just that I like this amazing version sooo much more:

Armin van Buuren & DJ Shah feat. Chris Jones - Going Wrong (Alex M.O.R.P.H. B2B Woody van Eyden Remix)

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Originally posted by Unable I'm not making any accusation, it's just perhaps an explanation as to why there's such a narrow spectrum of labels. Tracklisting for such a commercial show doesn't just involve listening to music and finding great tracks, otherwise you wouldn't need other people to help you. It's more all the label politics that goes on, Armin can't physically play a track which he hasn't received. He can't rip from youtube and play it, he has to be given a pre-release copy which means he needs permission from the producer/label. How often do you think Armin gets a track from an "unknown" producer/label and listens to it and thinks "oh this is cool I'll play this on ASOT".

I'm still wondering if the spectrum of labels really is that narrow.

If e.g. 25% is not from the often used labels then it still would be 260 tracks in a year from other labels, not?

Armin could really care less about labels. Obviously he's gonna play more tracks from ajuna, armada, etc since these labels get the majority of the big tracks and he's first in line for them. But he has said that he'll play anything he likes if it's sent to him or whatever. I think he does a great job at playing fresh new tracks every week.

I don't know why i keep doing this every year...

1. Rapid eye - Circa Forever (Galen Behr & Orjan Nilsen Remix)
2. Markus Schulz - Daydream (Ronski Speed Remix)
3. Plastic Boy - Silver Bath (Glyn Waters Remake)
4. Ernesto Vs Bastian - Thrill
5. Thomas Bronzwaer - Certitude

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Originally posted by Neo95gt Armin could really care less about labels. Obviously he's gonna play more tracks from ajuna, armada, etc since these labels get the majority of the big tracks and he's first in line for them. But he has said that he'll play anything he likes if it's sent to him or whatever. I think he does a great job at playing fresh new tracks every week.

+1
I think so too.

Oh come on, Armin does not play fresh tracks... He plays the big tracks everyone wants to hear, that all the other big shows play, and the tracks which will all end up at the top of beatport.

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Originally posted by Neo95gt Armin could really care less about labels. Obviously he's gonna play more tracks from ajuna, armada, etc since these labels get the majority of the big tracks and he's first in line for them. But he has said that he'll play anything he likes if it's sent to him or whatever. I think he does a great job at playing fresh new tracks every week.

As long as you believe it.

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Originally posted by Unable Oh come on, Armin does not play fresh tracks... He plays the big tracks everyone wants to hear, that all the other big shows play, and the tracks which will all end up at the top of beatport.

Most of the tracks he plays on asot are unreleased tracks hot from the production studio nobody has even heard of yet.

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Originally posted by Trance-MB Just calculate then how many tracks that would be.

...and then calculate that back into the percentage?

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To me it's kind of logical that he plays more from labels which release tracks which meet his taste.

He has said in interviews that his taste is for "ambient weird stuff" but that he djs for the crowd, not himself.

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Originally posted by Neo95gt Most of the tracks he plays on asot are unreleased tracks hot from the production studio nobody has even heard of yet.

Believe me, alot of people have those tracks before they hit the promo pool

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Originally posted by Ted Promo He has said in interviews that his taste is for "ambient weird stuff" but that he djs for the crowd, not himself.

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Armin van Buuren: I DJ for the crowd, not for myself, if it was for me the music would be real ambient, weird sounding. These track lists are for the crowd.

http://www.trancesound.net/diversht...van_buuren.html

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