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Posted by Moral Hazard on Nov-26-2008 17:32:

quote:
Originally posted by elFreak
would you concur then that being obese was your fault then?


In my case, yes; my obesity was entirely due to caloric intake. That said, not all obesity is due to poor dietary habits (although I would suggest the vast majority of obese people are that way by their own doing).


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Nov-26-2008 17:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
In my case, yes; my obesity was entirely due to caloric intake. That said, not all obesity is due to poor dietary habits (although I would suggest the vast majority of obese people are that way by their own doing).


I would agree that the majority of obese people are obese by their own doing but the vast majority of the morbidly obese...which are the ones that would require two seats...are that way due to other factors then dietary habits.


Posted by Moral Hazard on Nov-26-2008 17:49:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
I would agree that the majority of obese people are obese by their own doing but the vast majority of the morbidly obese...which are the ones that would require two seats...are that way due to other factors then dietary habits.


I'd love to see research backing that up. I agree there are people who suffer from disorders such as hypothyroidism, clinical depression, etc. that have difficulty controlling their weight because of those disorders; however, I have difficulty believing it is the majority; even if you limit the pool to just the morbidly obese. Finally, those that do have diagnosed disorders that are the cause of their obesity should be given the same rights as any disabled person... with regard to the airlines that would be reasonable accommodation (likely a bump to the first class seats or two seats if absolutely necessary)... but to give every obese person a free seat for their left cheek is nuts.


Posted by elFreak on Nov-26-2008 17:56:

i gained a good 20 lbs this year and it is all my fault.

not fat yet, but i'm packing on the baby weight.


Posted by david.michael on Nov-26-2008 18:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
I was down to 900 a day;


Yikes!


Posted by Alex on Nov-26-2008 18:42:

quote:
Originally posted by tubularbills
good thing canada doesn't celebrate thanksgiving


We do.


Posted by DJ Shibby on Nov-26-2008 21:11:

More pushin' for the cushin'


Posted by gehzumteufel on Nov-26-2008 21:38:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
I would agree that the majority of obese people are obese by their own doing but the vast majority of the morbidly obese...which are the ones that would require two seats...are that way due to other factors then dietary habits.

This is patently false. Morbidly obese people are mostly just larger obese people that got there by their own doing. They did this to themselves. The number of people that are morbidly obese due to a genuinely diagnosed medical condition is such a small minority.

Example #1


Example #2


Both those examples are morbidly obese people because of their own doing. The female was 850lbs and died of a heart attack due to her weight. The male was in the hospital for 9 months and lost 500lbs. He was 1050lbs.


Posted by elFreak on Nov-26-2008 21:40:

i like her flap top computer.


Posted by gehzumteufel on Nov-26-2008 21:59:

quote:
Originally posted by elFreak
i like her flap top computer.

LOL


Posted by Sunsnail on Nov-26-2008 22:02:

quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
LOL


i gotta admit that was pretty good


Posted by boris_the_bear on Nov-26-2008 22:19:

can't imagine how such fatties can even live


Posted by gehzumteufel on Nov-26-2008 22:20:

quote:
Originally posted by boris_the_bear
can't imagine how such fatties can even live

The female died...


Posted by boris_the_bear on Nov-26-2008 22:30:

what about mr.fatman?


Posted by gehzumteufel on Nov-26-2008 22:33:

quote:
Originally posted by boris_the_bear
what about mr.fatman?

I have no clue


Posted by Lilith on Nov-27-2008 09:26:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
I think airlines should solve this problem by just making seats bigger for everyone. They're also very uncomfortable for people who are simply tall...

Its called 1st class, because they spent all their money on McDonalds, those 3wheeled wheelchair things and tent size clothing, most fatties will never see 1st class.


Posted by Moral Hazard on Nov-27-2008 12:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Lilith
Its called 1st class, because they spent all their money on McDonalds, those 3wheeled wheelchair things and tent size clothing, most fatties will never see 1st class.


Not true... the airlines always march everyone through first class on their way back to the little veal fattening pens they expect you to sit in for the next several hours. What I especially love about that is they sit all the first class people first, give them their free papers, let them stretch out and then parade the common-folk past them like some sort of performance art piece; "The march of the poor."


Posted by boris_the_bear on Nov-27-2008 13:35:

fatties should not be allowed on the plane. they need to be shipped in crates


Posted by Acton on Nov-27-2008 13:40:

quote:
Originally posted by boris_the_bear
what about mr.fatman?


He's still alive apparently, I remember him being on a TV show not so long ago, it was a documentery about obesity. So, unless he has died since then, he is still around. Well, when I say around I mean still glued to his bed.

Although I think he can actually move now, I remember on that program he actually stood up for the first time in 3 years.


Posted by gehzumteufel on Nov-27-2008 16:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Acton
He's still alive apparently, I remember him being on a TV show not so long ago, it was a documentery about obesity. So, unless he has died since then, he is still around. Well, when I say around I mean still glued to his bed.

Although I think he can actually move now, I remember on that program he actually stood up for the first time in 3 years.

lol this is exactly why I know about both of those. "Half Ton Dad" and "Half Ton Mom" on some channel. Don't remember which. I saw it like a month ago if that. He was still alive as of that time.


Posted by Lunar Phase 7 on Nov-27-2008 17:05:

Imagine the smell.

I bet you can taste them in the back of your throat.


Posted by Soeder on Nov-28-2008 01:41:

Anyway, those who's obesity is not caused by eating habits can get a licence form their Doc to take up two seats. Or they could be elliminated so bad genes don't spread further.


Posted by Lilith on Nov-28-2008 21:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Not true... the airlines always march everyone through first class on their way back to the little veal fattening pens they expect you to sit in for the next several hours. What I especially love about that is they sit all the first class people first, give them their free papers, let them stretch out and then parade the common-folk past them like some sort of performance art piece; "The march of the poor."


I think intensive piggery might be a better description if you've ever seen one. Lots and lots of big fattie mummy pigs crammed into little cages so they can only walk backwards or forwards, with lots of squealing piglets running hither and thither underfoot.

It smells intensely like sweat, urine and poo to the point you need to burn your clothes after!

Fairly certain that the airline practice is there for the latter reason, (that and the privilege of not having your toes nibbled on by piglets) but at some point if the fatties take over the airlines they might have to install crush cages under the seats so you can put your kids in them. Just in case a passenger rolls over or lies down and doesnt mush them.


Posted by elFreak on Nov-28-2008 23:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Not true... the airlines always march everyone through first class on their way back to the little veal fattening pens they expect you to sit in for the next several hours. What I especially love about that is they sit all the first class people first, give them their free papers, let them stretch out and then parade the common-folk past them like some sort of performance art piece; "The march of the poor."


i could not think of a better marketing ploy to be real, and fuck for the price it costs i better sit first.


Posted by Leif on Nov-29-2008 04:20:

Last time I was in 1st class, I managed to recoup the cost of my plane ticket in champagne alone (mind you my ticket was $30).


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