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Practically a clean sweep... quickly approaching the Titanic/Gandhi/Lord of the Rings neighborhood.

Yeah, eight Academy Awards is not too shabby.

And that's that. Glad I started this thread.

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Originally posted by TranceGiant Loved every bit of it. M.I.A. Paper Planes + trainjumping cinematography = ultimate feeling of "freedom" within the miserable slumdog life. I'm also currently reading "The White Tiger" by Aravnid Adiga, excellent book with a very similar topic (slumdog goes entrepeneur), although more satirical/political/darker. Highly recommended!

Yea I red that book as well...its awesome!..a little dark, but funny as well.

It's good

If a lot of foreign actors/plots would have hollywood producers and directors, lots of them would be as popular as Slumdog Millionaire.

To me the movie seemed like a way to increase awareness about the poverty in India. British people sympathize with Indians a lot because there are a lot of Indians in the UK.

Also, the girl in the movie isn't hot at all. There's a hotter Indian girl in my school.

The thing I didn't get about the movie is how Jamal suddenly learned how to speak English when he was working at the Taj Mahal.

after hearing so much speculation, I finally watched it last night for the first time.

i enjoyed it,but it was nothing of what i expected it to be.

There were a few elements of the indian culture that had quite an impact on me, such as the hindu/muslim conflict, the phenomena of organized begging(a very sad reality), police corruption, trainhopping, and the elitist mentality that makes it socially ok for one to degrade the hoodkids,even on a national gameshow.

I enjoyed the children's scenes a great deal more, when dev patel's character began in looking for Lathika,it was a little bit too sappy for my liking.

and how on earth did the the two boys(especially the youngone) survive that train fall?

It is socially acceptable to degrade the slums of each and every society in every place in the world. Some are just more subtle about it than others.

This is true, it's a naturally occuring behaviour. The formal caste system gives people some sort of divine justification for their behaviour, so indian society is on the harsher end of the scale imo.

Even though efforts are being made to outlaw such discrimination, It is still prevalant at large, a defacto layering of the society so to speak. For instance, a marraige in culture like India has many strings attached, making it very hard to marry up.

Lol, i just remembered my Indian buddy from high school, he was convinced he was of brahman heritage, but the guy was black as night. he would get really really pissed whenever we called him untouchable

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Originally posted by DJ Damerchi The formal caste system gives people some sort of divine justification for their behaviour, so indian society is on the harsher end of the scale imo.

This is probably the root of many more problems than meets the eye. Not just social order, but business order also.

On the flip side, at least they aren't like Egypt that has people that officially don't exist. They have no birth certificate, etc.

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Originally posted by DJ Damerchi This is true, it's a naturally occuring behaviour. The formal caste system gives people some sort of divine justification for their behaviour, so indian society is on the harsher end of the scale imo. Even though efforts are being made to outlaw such discrimination, It is still prevalant at large, a defacto layering of the society so to speak. For instance, a marraige in culture like India has many strings attached, making it very hard to marry up. Lol, i just remembered my Indian buddy from high school, he was convinced he was of brahman heritage, but the guy was black as night. he would get really really pissed whenever we called him untouchable

thats all BS, it does not exist anymore, i was born and bought up in india, spent like 16 years of my life there. Hardly any discrimination and the stuff they showed in the movie is very OD'ed

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Originally posted by coolestrl thats all BS, it does not exist anymore, i was born and bought up in india, spent like 16 years of my life there. Hardly any discrimination and the stuff they showed in the movie is very OD'ed

What social class level were you at? Did you guys have money?

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel What social class level were you at? Did you guys have money?

at any given level it really does not exist anymore. its more abt the education than the money. educated ppl dont do that and more and more ppl are getting eduated, my CHAIWALA and my driver actually spoke english! and gods grace i belong to a very well of family

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Originally posted by coolestrl and gods grace i belong to a very well of family

No offense, but this makes your statements appear a little biased. These are usually the people oblivious to the real effects of social orders.

Did you watch the Mike Rowe on TED Talks video? Notice how the humane society, PETA, and the SPCA all say that the way castration happens is with a rubber band, yet when he actually gets to it, that is not how it's done? Same shit.

your question was do u guys have money? so i just worded it that way so i dont sound snobby

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Originally posted by coolestrl your question was do u guys have money? so i just worded it that way so i dont sound snobby

Proving my exact point. Paris Hilton is fucking oblivious to the things that make having to bust your ass your whole life for very little because she isn't affected by it.

I didn't grow up with tons of money, but even I know that I never had it THAT bad.

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Originally posted by coolestrl thats all BS, it does not exist anymore, i was born and bought up in india, spent like 16 years of my life there. Hardly any discrimination and the stuff they showed in the movie is very OD'ed

I dont have anything on your 16 years, but i lived in Cuff Parade for 3 years, I have visited after i moved, and i live in a city that is over 40 percent indian, so i am not talking out of my ass bro.

You pretend like there's nothing, but you are sheltered from the day to day bullshit. do you realize that since you travel, speak english well, have access to internet, you fall into a very high percentile of indians.

the last time i had to deal with an indian cop i was on a moped miles away from a city, and they flatout robbed me in the middle of the night.

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Originally posted by DJ Damerchi

Immigrants are a diff case. Im talking abt indians actually living in india,

im not defending anything here, im just stating the facts, i have delt with all kinds of ppl there rich, poor, educated, uneducated.

things are changing there so fast, i go there every 5months as my gf still lives there and every 5 months it feels like a new place. all this stuff happened back in the day when there were no jobs, no money no education. now ppl have everything

India is one of the more rapidly developing places in the world, and as anywhere development always comes hand in hand with inequality - the abolishment of the caste system has done some good in alleviating social barriers, but income inequality is actually on the rise. There's some anthropological research on the correlation between ethnic group and caste with income distribution, but I can't seem to recall any of them at the moment. This newspaper article touches on it though:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...7062002535.html

In any case, though most of the scenes in Slumdog were designed to show the state of development fifteen years ago, poverty does persist (mostly in rural areas). The Gini coefficient (measuring wealth disparity) indicates a pretty wide gap between rich and poor. Over 1/3 of the world's poor live in India, despite the fact that Africa is generally considered the face of poverty. Today over 80% of the population (roughly 850 million people) live on less than $.50 a day... a higher percentage than in Africa.
http://www.reuters.com/article/late...s/idUSDEL218894

No doubt there is extreme income equality. there are 4 indians in the top 10 richest ppl in the world on the other hand 1000's of ppl cant even feed themselves

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Originally posted by coolestrl No doubt there is extreme income equality. there are 4 indians in the top 10 richest ppl in the world on the other hand 1000's of ppl cant even feed themselves

India is actually a really fascinating example of capitalism run rampant - it's usually accepted as norm that economic liberalization and macroeconomic growth are good for a society, but India raises some pretty interesting questions about the inherent inequality in the free-market economic development. Capitalist competition is decidedly not pro-poor, though it does provide some pretty magnificent results for some.

There's a huge debate at the World Bank, among other places, about how to interpret the lessons of India in an African context - namely whether the types of reform undertaken by the Indian state have been effective in reducing poverty or not and whether those policies should be replicated in Africa. India is a macroeconomic miracle, and capital entrepreneurship and innovation are self-evident, but overall it's difficult to make the argument that the average citizen is really better off.

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