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Posted by The17sss on Dec-16-2008 18:42:

quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
that might be the dumbest essay/article (whatever it is) written about the issue. People won't stop drinking all liquids because vending machines don't stock soda. that's just stupid. a more realistic result is that people will still buy soda because the difference is only about ten cents. a 20oz bottle of soda in midtown is already $1.75 in many stores. If an increase to 15% (which would bring the price up to $1.85) is too much for a drink then $1.75 is likely too much for that same person. although from the article i'm not sure if the tax will be 15% or 15% + the normal sales tax of 8.75% (23.75%). The article suggests a 23% tax, but that doesn't sound right.

the ability of some people to critically analyze the true consequences of these measures is unbelievable.


I think you took that "thirsy" line a bit too literal... I believe the author was illustrating that they'd be thirsty for what they used to enjoy before this stupid nanny state tax got placed on it.


Posted by bas on Dec-16-2008 18:48:

quote:
Originally posted by iclone
ben stiller would not insure a fat person.
lol


Posted by jerZ07002 on Dec-16-2008 18:50:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
what you are not understanding is that even if you took the "fat cost" out of the equation...you would still be paying the same amount of insurance....unless you were paying the "fat cost" before.
I am assuming you are talking about personal insurance and not a company plan.


it doesn't matter, although in a company plan it is more apparent because everyone pays the same price. the real difference between a company plan and individual insurance is that in a company plan there is a defined pool of potential claims and the company incurs an associated costs. with personal insurance, there just isn't a sponsor, and the insurance company bears more risk associated with the potential claims.

with respect to personal insurance, while it's true that the insurance company has to impose higher premiums on the fat people, it is unlikely that the insurance company will recover their costs in the premiums. Why would a fat person with huge medical bills for diabetes medication, blood pressure medication, doctors bills, etc... get insurance coverage that was as costly as their medical costs? that would totally eliminate the purpose of getting insurance. for normal people, we get insurance to cover unforseen medical costs. to the extent we don't cost the insurance company because we didn't see a doctor, or get medication, our premiums go towards the profits of the company and covering the expenses of those customers that cost more than they paid. since fat people usually just get fatter, the insurance company doesn't always assess the risk of future costs, and they under charge their premiums.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Dec-16-2008 18:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Yeah, let's try to tone down the fantasy a little, please. This is a serious discussion on how to control behaviour on a massive level through excessive taxing, now cut the comedy.

>:|






I'm just happy we're all here together, hating on fat people.


Posted by Zild on Dec-16-2008 18:54:

I think you should take that up with the insurance companies. Tell them you won't buy their service anymore because you are getting screwed by their business model.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Dec-16-2008 18:55:


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Dec-16-2008 18:56:

You know, I'll bet there's at least one fat person posting in this thread right now, hoping we'll never figure out who they are or how much they weigh by intentionally overcompensating in their views...

*points*


Posted by gehzumteufel on Dec-16-2008 18:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
I think you should take that up with the insurance companies. Tell them you won't buy their service anymore because you are getting screwed by their business model.

And then next thing you know, you owe 150k in hospital debt.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Dec-16-2008 18:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
You know, I'll bet there's at least one fat person posting in this thread right now, hoping we'll never figure out who they are or how much they weigh by intentionally overcompensating in their views...

*points*




I think that goes without saying. Dummy.


Posted by jerZ07002 on Dec-16-2008 18:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
I think you should take that up with the insurance companies. Tell them you won't buy their service anymore because you are getting screwed by their business model.



to an extent you're not incorrect. i am on the losing end of their business model. however, there is no viable alternative, and i don't make enough money to save in case i have a catastrophic incident. That doesn't mean we should be content with having 50% of the claimant pool filled with fat people!


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Dec-16-2008 19:00:

Oh, it was common knowledge that you're a corpulent invalid? I feel so left out!


Posted by Zild on Dec-16-2008 19:00:

quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
And then next thing you know, you owe 150k in hospital debt.


I only owe like 2k.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Dec-16-2008 19:00:

quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
pool filled with fat people!


Oh god, this shit just got real.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Dec-16-2008 19:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Oh, it was common knowledge that you're a corpulent invalid? I feel so left out!




Oh my bad, I thought we were talking about you. I've actually always wondered if you were some big fat slob, because you've never posted a picture of yourself. I call fatso!

*points*


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Dec-16-2008 19:03:

*cries salty, salty tears that bead up and stream down his face, barely touching his lips before an immense craving for more Fritos overtakes him*


Posted by Silky Johnson on Dec-16-2008 19:04:

You disgust me.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Dec-16-2008 19:05:

I'll digest you.


Posted by gehzumteufel on Dec-16-2008 19:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
I only owe like 2k.

You haven't had any serious injuries or health problems then. If you have a bypass of any sort, the price starts at around 100k. Call me when you don't have insurance and you need one. I will laugh in your face for being stupid and taking the route you suggested.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Dec-16-2008 19:06:

Lol, eat me.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Dec-16-2008 19:08:

*Pulls out a jug of ranch dressing from one of his oversized cargo pants pockets*


Posted by Silky Johnson on Dec-16-2008 19:08:

You mean mayo and sweat pants, right?


Posted by ziptnf on Dec-16-2008 19:09:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Lol, eat me.

Apparently you don't taste very good.

quote:
Originally posted by denys envy
yeah, i just don't think jennypie would make a very good meal no matter what she's stuffed with.


http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...12&pagenumber=4


Posted by Zild on Dec-16-2008 19:10:

quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
You haven't had any serious injuries or health problems then. If you have a bypass of any sort, the price starts at around 100k. Call me when you don't have insurance and you need one. I will laugh in your face for being stupid and taking the route you suggested.


Actually I do... and that is with insurance. Only covers 80% of hospital visits.

I don't know too many 24 year olds having bypass surgery.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Dec-16-2008 19:11:

Wha- did somebody say schnitzel?


Posted by Silky Johnson on Dec-16-2008 19:12:


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