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Posted by elFreak on Jan-12-2009 19:07:

rule 34 has been invoked.


Posted by itsamemario on Jan-12-2009 19:10:

i dont care,
what you think;
i still pee,
in my sink.


Posted by UmmiE on Jan-12-2009 19:12:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_alfi
i dont care,
what you think;
i still pee,
in my sink.



I think of that every time I wash my hands in a sink in new place as if someone peed into it or no?


Posted by Abercrombie on Jan-12-2009 19:54:

quote:
Originally posted by UmmiE
I think of that every time I wash my hands in a sink in new place as if someone peed into it or no?


meh... people wash their feet in sinks, so why not?


Posted by Boaz on Jan-13-2009 00:33:

yellow,

it's hard fro me, giving you guys,
some perspective of the situation.


we tried to hold our horses for few months,
our children that live near gaza (all the hot area)
can't find thier peace of mind for 8 years.

we thought about clearing the cities and finding new places
to give those childrens a chance to grow up without war.

but, you know & we know that if there will be an evacuation,
our plastienes friends will try to take another bite of our ass.

therefore, we did our best to shut our mouth and got many rockets
through that time.

decisions had been received, and we started attacking hamas.

THE problem is that alot of hamas active members are hiding
inside and between innocent ppl.

we did our best to prevent those pictures from the world,
& we know that some of the pictures are hard to digest.

we hope & pray that our soldiers will take over of all the rockets & the ppl that stand behind them.

without loosing any innocent human being.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jan-13-2009 00:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Boaz
yellow,

it's hard fro me, giving you guys,
some perspective of the situation.


we tried to hold our horses for few months,
our children that live near gaza (all the hot area)
can't find thier peace of mind for 8 years.

we thought about clearing the cities and finding new places
to give those childrens a chance to grow up without war.

but, you know & we know that if there will be an evacuation,
our plastienes friends will try to take another bite of our ass.

therefore, we did our best to shut our mouth and got many rockets
through that time.

decisions had been received, and we started attacking hamas.

THE problem is that alot of hamas active members are hiding
inside and between innocent ppl.

we did our best to prevent those pictures from the world,
& we know that some of the pictures are hard to digest.

we hope & pray that our soldiers will get all the rockets & the ppl that stand behind them.

without loosing any innocent human being.


the rest of us pray that you end up in an oven.


Posted by PETRAN on Jan-13-2009 01:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Boaz
yellow,

it's hard fro me, giving you guys,
some perspective of the situation.


we tried to hold our horses for few months,
our children that live near gaza (all the hot area)
can't find thier peace of mind for 8 years.

we thought about clearing the cities and finding new places
to give those childrens a chance to grow up without war.

but, you know & we know that if there will be an evacuation,
our plastienes friends will try to take another bite of our ass.

therefore, we did our best to shut our mouth and got many rockets
through that time.

decisions had been received, and we started attacking hamas.

THE problem is that alot of hamas active members are hiding
inside and between innocent ppl.

we did our best to prevent those pictures from the world,
& we know that some of the pictures are hard to digest.

we hope & pray that our soldiers will get all the rockets & the ppl that stand behind them.

without loosing any innocent human being.



this is some fragile stuff...

*bursts in tears


Posted by Viber on Jan-13-2009 01:23:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
the rest of us pray that you end up in an oven.



The heat, MY GOD,THINK OF THE HEAT!


Posted by Boaz on Jan-13-2009 03:53:

can i choose the micro-wave ?

oven is too hot for me


Posted by donegalredneck on Jan-13-2009 15:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Boaz
but, you know & we know that if there will be an evacuation,
our plastienes friends will try to take another bite of our ass.


You mean they would have the audacity to take back what was taken from them?


Posted by Dr. DAS on Jan-13-2009 19:32:

Please understand before you read this that I have no vested interest in either party here, nor any political opinion about who has rights to land claims, etc.

Israel is completely in the right with it's offensive as of late, morally, that is.

Hamas is a terrorist organization, firing unguided rockets into civillian areas of no tactical value. They are not dropping mortars on an Israeli base, or attacking military supply infastructure or manufacturing. Israel has a duty to put and end to these attacks on it's citizens.

It is unfortunate that so many civillians are being kiled in the process, but even more unfortunate that Hamas, despite being warned of the attacks in advance, actively blocks civillians from leaving the hot zone as refugees.
Why would they do such a thing? Why would they block aid from entering the area? Because dead civillians look good on TV, children are even better. Dead civillians are a powerful propaganda tool.

Hide your weapons behind a wall of civillians and some of those civillians are going to die in the process of destroying those weapons. Why is this shocking? If Hamas was really that concerned with the fate of the civillians that populate the combat area, they would have used the time between the warnings and attacks to extricate civillians, or at least allow them to leave on thier own.
Isreal's hand is forced, they cannot allow the rocket batteries to remain active, but cannot prevent killing civillians in the process.

Saddam, Hitler, Stalin, all of them used civillians as a shield for thier weapons - be it placing AA batteries in a schoolyard, rallying tanks outside a hospital or placing offensice weapons in the cul-de-sac at the end of the street, whatever - and they are the ones who must be held accountable for the civillians killed.

I disagree with Israel's use of white phosphorous, which is a horrible, horrible weapon in any circumstance, but morally they have a responsibility to cease the attacks on thier people. If Canada was slinging rockets across the border into Syracuse, NY, you would expect the US to dispatch those batteries, wouldn't you? An enemy that publicly denounces and provokes you, calls for your extinction, is proven to posess WMD and has a record of using them against civillians is a justifyable threat to any state and steps must be taken to remove that threat.

I'm sorry to hear that so many innocents have lost thier lives, but Israel didn't put them in the line of fire, Hamas did. Israel even had the decency to halt offensive operation to allow a rescue to take place. All Hamas needs to do is decommission the rocket batteries, submit to inspection and the attacks will stop.


This is a conflict that is never going to go away. Ignorance, intolerance and blind hatred are so deeply engrained in the mindset of these parties, cemented by religious disagreement and furvor, that it will take generations to wash out of the culture. Israelis and Palestinians, Jews and Arabs, manage to co-exist peacefully in Canada while living right next door to each other. Stop arguing over who owns the land, set your differences aside and think about all the wonderous things that could happen in Gaza if people acted like civilized human beings instead of fighting over an ideal.

Land disputes, apartheid, hatred and conflict do nothing except condemn you to a life of fear and horror, think of your people, think of your God (if you have one)and try to draw a distinction between yourselves and a bunch of animals.

BOTH sides are wrong...let them kill each other and do business with whoever is left, but don't gasp at the sight of a few dead civillians - that's what happens in a war zone.

It's sad, but it's combat.


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Jan-13-2009 19:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Dr. DAS
BOTH sides are wrong...let them kill each other and do business with whoever is left, but don't gasp at the sight of a few dead civillians - that's what happens in a war zone.

It's sad, but it's combat.


+1....neither side is ready for peace so let them blow the shit out of each other until they are ready to stop.....then peace talks can start. Civilian deaths are an unfortunate part of it. If the civilians want this to end then they will demand their side give up so no one else dies.


Posted by gehzumteufel on Jan-13-2009 19:48:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
+1....neither side is ready for peace so let them blow the shit out of each other until they are ready to stop.....then peace talks can start. Civilian deaths are an unfortunate part of it. If the civilians want this to end then they will demand their side give up so no one else dies.


This, and Das, I couldn't agree more. Too much blind hatred as you said that leads to nothing but more shit.


Posted by shonguiz on Jan-13-2009 19:58:

http://news.morningstar.com/newsnet...000491_univ.xml


Posted by Boaz on Jan-14-2009 11:37:

got nothing else to say,

the last 3-4 msg were all right.


hope for chillin time.


Posted by Jake Benson on Jan-14-2009 19:56:

quote:
Originally posted by donegalredneck
You mean they would have the audacity to take back what was taken from them?


Oh you mean Palestine? The "country" that NEVER existed until sometime AFTER the Ottoman Empire no longer existed after 1929. Riiiiiiiight.


Posted by elFreak on Jan-14-2009 19:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson
Oh you mean Palestine? The country that NEVER existed until sometime AFTER the Ottoman Empire no longer existed after 1929. Riiiiiiiight.


it still was there before israel you dyke kike.


Posted by Jake Benson on Jan-14-2009 19:59:

quote:
Originally posted by elFreak
it still was there before israel you dyke kike.


No it wasn't you fag fucker.


Posted by elFreak on Jan-14-2009 20:01:

please show me proof of an independent Israeli(or Jewish) state prior to that.


Posted by MeLLyMeL on Jan-14-2009 20:08:

quote:
Originally posted by elFreak
please show me proof of an independent Israeli(or Jewish) state prior to that.
He's right.

Israel is 60 years old.

Lol @ ppl thinking it's older.


Posted by Jake Benson on Jan-14-2009 20:13:

quote:
Originally posted by elFreak
please show me proof of an independent Israeli(or Jewish) state prior to that.


I never said Israel was an independent state before 1948. I said Palestine wasn't an independent state. Don't misconstrue my original argument assmuchner. That area was part of the Ottoman Empire for HUNDREDS of years up until 1929. How then do Palestinians claim this was Palestine??? That's like me saying "THIS IS JAKE BENSON LAND BECAUSE I LIVE HERE" even though I actually live in the UNITED STATES.


Posted by elFreak on Jan-14-2009 20:37:

ok, then how about this?

did the Israelis displace people that were already settled there?

ps prop 22.


Posted by Boaz on Jan-14-2009 20:43:

quote:
Originally posted by donegalredneck
You mean they would have the audacity to take back what was taken from them?


i guess everybody knows some history,
alot of countries were empires for some years.
ppl loves to conquer, everybody wants to be an empire.

the point is that arab muslems got alot of lands around the world.

i guess it will be nice if we will have our little peace.


now, the problem with history and points of view is complicated.
everybody wants to be fisrt, & include some win points at his history
pouch.

i wish the world would look different then it is,
at everypoint of history the world hate the empires.
& of course tried to take over them.

i was travelling around more then 25 countries,
& i saw the culture evolution throw the influence of the empires control - its pretty amazing.


my big point is that the plastiens got to have thier own country,
and the other point is that israel is not that happy to loss spaces
or soldiers.

our state compar to the other lands is very small,
it takes about 5-6 hours to travel with car from the north to the south.

take this info to your attention.


Posted by elFreak on Jan-14-2009 20:48:

knock knock.


Posted by Boaz on Jan-14-2009 20:49:

i wonderd what you guys think about tectonics,

i red that all the lands were one few million years ago,

the name of the one masterland is pangea.


geology.


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