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Originally posted by Skipper Does the bible say you can't use drugs? What about alcohol? (also a drug)

forgot where, but some verse said 'your body is a holy temple dedicated to God' (romans?)
interpretation could be that you should do no drugs, but considering old testament temple rituals probably involved some sort of drugs (incense of various forms) of possibily causing hallucination and stuff...

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Originally posted by Rodrico So which apostle was the coke head again? I always forget this one...

Many religions have beliefs about drug use. Some traditions placing the ritual use of entheogens at the center of religious activity.

Like i said just cus your a coke head doesn't mean you cant be religious.

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Originally posted by El K Dee point being...why do you wear something that symbolizes something you disagree with? going into your point about freedom of expression, just because you CAN doesnt mean you SHOULD

where did I say I disagree with what the cross symbolises? I said it doesn't hold any meaning to me, just a pretty accessory that's all
plus in school we couldn't wear any necklaces, so I got away with wearing a cross with other necklaces :P

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Originally posted by Inrush Many religions have beliefs about drug use. Some traditions placing the ritual use of entheogens at the center of religious activity. Like i said just cus your a coke head doesn't mean you cant be religious.

Thats great, but were actually on subject about a specific religion, so try and keep up.

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Originally posted by El K Dee you really dont know you're own friend circle well do you?

My circle of friends isn't limited to just you

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Originally posted by Prometheus Xex I don't need to have faith to know that I shouldn't kill the next person, rape the next person... etc, I don't need to have faith to help out the next person who's down on their luck. We should not do, or do, based on just being human and that we can do good for the betterment of our species. You don't HAVE to believe there's something out there just to get along in life. To "have to" believe because it makes us feel better just shows how weak the human mind can be. "God took my husband away from me because He needed him in heaven" is just a way to cope with a loss. But where is the explanation in terms of godliness when a wave comes ashore and washes away a quarter of a million lives? Using the same frame of mind, did "God" need them too?

you're also neglecting the fact that people believe in God or Jesus or Allah or whoever because it makes logical sense to them, based upon their experience.
supernatural events happen that science has yet to explain.
and if these supernatural events happen because of some religious dude (or at least it seems so), as a rational being, what conclusion can you make?

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In the end none of the two ideas are right, it's the majority that aways rules ************.

first really bright thing you've said in this thread

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew where did I say I disagree with what the cross symbolises? I said it doesn't hold any meaning to me, just a pretty accessory that's all plus in school we couldn't wear any necklaces, so I got away with wearing a cross with other necklaces :P

By it not symbolizing anything to you, you deny the belief in the existence of Jesus thereby disagreeing with Christian faith.

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH My circle of friends isn't limited to just you

you said nobody...not most

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Originally posted by El K Dee By it not symbolizing anything to you, you deny the belief in the existence of Jesus thereby disagreeing with Christian faith.

huh?

dude, there are people who do wear the cross as an accessory. but i really doubt they do it to deny existence of Jesus

Kris, by wearing a cross, which is THE prominant symbol of christianity, you're making a latent statement identifying yourself with Christian faith. It does not matter how you perceive the cross as; but for other people who dont know you, the cross is all about Jesus dude.

Unless you're wearing one of those pimp big ass bling cross. Then it's a whole different story

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Originally posted by Yohan dude, there are people who do wear the cross as an accessory. but i really doubt they do it to deny existence of Jesus

well think about it...if they felt it meant something, then it would be acceptance of his existence and God as well in which case they wouldn't wear it.....

hmmm i guess this isn't really coming out right

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Originally posted by Yohan huh? dude, there are people who do wear the cross as an accessory. but i really doubt they do it to deny existence of Jesus Kris, by wearing a cross, which is THE prominant symbol of christianity, you're making a latent statement identifying yourself with Christian faith. It does not matter how you perceive the cross as; but for other people who dont know you, the cross is all about Jesus dude. Unless you're wearing one of those pimp big ass bling cross. Then it's a whole different story

lol thanks Yohan
Liam is reading way too much into it - I'm no denying anything, I just DON'T believe in it and DON'T care about it. My life has other more important things to worry about and to have faith in

well I'm Christian by my parents' religion, so I guess that's okay regardless

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Originally posted by Rodrico Thats great, but were actually on subject about a specific religion, so try and keep up.

You didnt get my point so i will go straight to it...
The Bible does not directly address any form of drug use. There are NO express prohibitions against cocaine, heroin, ecstasy , or methamphetamine. If you can show me the passage in the bible that says you can't do drugs please tell I want to know.

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew My life has other more important things to worry about and to have faith in

God will be disappointed

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew well I'm Christian by my parents' religion, so I guess that's okay regardless

wrong. religion (or any ideology or philosophical belief) is a personal thing.

just because my parents are hardcore conservative Protestant types, doesnt mean I'm a hardcore conservative Protestant types
i dont even know what i am anymore... i guess non denominational protestant is close to describing my religious affiliation, though theist would suit me better

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH God will be disappointed

you're bugging me!

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew well I'm Christian by my parents' religion, so I guess that's okay regardless

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH Well I don't go to school anymore. Most of my friends don't either. When we did then yea of course. We all went to a catholic high school afterall. I'm talking about our generation. People in their 20's to 30's. It's not just my group of friends but even acquaintances, co-workers, etc etc. Even looking at internet forums. Nobody believes in anything nowadays except for themselves (and not in the positive way).

I think you are misinformed. You either are not having the right conversations, or are just not being perceptive. Quite a few people still believe in religion, a higher being or something.

If you went to school with people who believed, there is a strong chance that they still believe now.

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Originally posted by Yohan wrong. religion (or any ideology or philosophical belief) is a personal thing. just because my parents are hardcore conservative Protestant types, doesnt mean I'm a hardcore conservative Protestant types i dont even know what i am anymore... i guess non denominational protestant is close to describing my religious affiliation, though theist would suit me better

ah
well I always thought you're born into it
lol I guess that's just shows how much I care

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Originally posted by Inrush You didnt get my point so i will go straight to it... The Bible does not directly address any form of drug use. There are NO express prohibitions against cocaine, heroin, ecstasy , or methamphetamine. If you can show me the passage in the bible that says you can't do drugs please tell I want to know.

no it doesn't but there's alot in the bible that is based on parables and metaphors to make a statement...

Going into the "you're body is a temple of God", further explained (had this discussion with a group of priests) really means that yes there can be chaos as it happens but destroying it is a mortal sin...

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Originally posted by Inrush You didnt get my point so i will go straight to it... The Bible does not directly address any form of drug use. There are NO express prohibitions against cocaine, heroin, ecstasy , or methamphetamine. If you can show me the passage in the bible that says you can't do drugs please tell I want to know.

1 Corinthians 6:19

Or(Y) do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God?(Z) You are not your own, 20(AA) for you were bought with a price.(AB) So glorify God in your body.

The entire chapters talk about living righteous life, so it could be interpreted as being drugged up is not cool, as there is part about drunkards not being cool either.

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew ah well I always thought you're born into it lol I guess that's just shows how much I care

just dont say I believe there is One God and Muhammad is his True Prophet three times or else Muslims might call you apostate

(I'm pretty sure I got that wrong so feel free to correct me, my Muslim friends)

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Originally posted by El K Dee no it doesn't but there's alot in the bible that is based on parables and metaphors to make a statement... Going into the "you're body is a temple of God", further explained (had this discussion with a group of priests) really means that yes there can be chaos as it happens but destroying it is a mortal sin...

of course a group of priests are going to say that. That still doesnt mean what you think a temple is and what someone else thinks a temple is are the same thing. Its all how you see it. The same shit happens with the electrical code book. You can do something to code but the inceptor at the time might read it a bit different and you have to change. But there is no place in the bible that says 100% you cant do drugs.

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Originally posted by Yohan just dont say I believe there is One God and Muhammad is his True Prophet three times or else Muslims might call you apostate (I'm pretty sure I got that wrong so feel free to correct me, my Muslim friends)

lol..dont know about that but if im not mistaken, to divorce, the husband has to say divorce 3 times consecutively and the deed is done?

This is great!

I was very much pleased to see this happen in England a while back. In fact, the young girl who came up with this was very-well received by a lot of the intellectuals in London; namely Richard Dawkins. If he approves, I approve.

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Originally posted by Inrush of course a group of priests are going to say that. That still doesnt mean what you think a temple is and what someone else thinks a temple is are the same thing. Its all how you see it. The same shit happens with the electrical code book. You can do something to code but the inceptor at the time might read it a bit different and you have to change. But there is no place in the bible that says 100% you cant do drugs.

drugs are toxins. a toxin is something that slowly degrades your body. how much further does this have to go?

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