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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN fuck you, moron.

Have you ever been outside of Australia? or have travelled to Middle East or lived there for certian amount of time? for what your replies,knowledge and understanding of the subject being discussed here to me it seems like you are the Aussie version of these people:-

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Originally posted by UmmiE Have you ever been outside of Australia? or have travelled to Middle East or lived there for certian amount of time? for what your replies,knowledge and understanding of the subject being discussed here to me it seems like you are the Aussie version of these people:-

:: commits suicide ::

I love how people say increase awareness that oil is depleting and soon we'll be screwed if that runs out. I feel that people should be educated abotu it, though I do not feel that its as much a concern as a lot of people emphasize. The stone age didn't end because they ran out of rocks, it ended b/c technology advanced, which changed their reliance on certain resources. Which in theory should happen in regards to oil as well. Most likely our advancement of technology will create less reliance on the substance allowing us to filter it out completely at some point. imo

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Originally posted by UmmiE Have you ever been outside of Australia? or have travelled to Middle East or lived there for certian amount of time? for what your replies,knowledge and understanding of the subject being discussed here to me it seems like you are the Aussie version of these people:-

LOL what is the guy on the back doing? Hiding his face because he doesn't want to be seen with that crazy woman?

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Originally posted by Pokit LOL what is the guy on the back doing? Hiding his face because he doesn't want to be seen with that crazy woman?

Well thats pkc's dad in back, his mom in the middle and him in the front with their family dog.His dad is saying inside him " I dont know these crazy people they are just giving me a ride up the road so I can catch that once a day bus to the city".

that's all you could muster? im disappointed. i know you're scared to pick a particular point of the debate and run with it. i would be too if i spewed as much nonsense as you. you see, i actually have a degree in this field, i studied terrorism at an honours level. asides from being a dirty paki and it being in your blood, where's your knowledge of terrorism spring from?

enjoy parading your ignorance and google-era research skills.

So what did they teach you at the Honours Level Terrorism course that's so much more authoritative than what can be found on the internet?

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN that's all you could muster? im disappointed. i know you're scared to pick a particular point of the debate and run with it. i would be too if i spewed as much nonsense as you. you see, i actually have a degree in this field, i studied terrorism at an honours level. asides from being a dirty paki and it being in your blood, where's your knowledge of terrorism spring from? enjoy parading your ignorance and google-era research skills.

The fact that you have that degree in terrorism and your hatred with a certian group of people shows why your are so ignorant and one sided.....I think its a perfect example of :-

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH So what did they teach you at the Honours Level Terrorism course that's so much more authoritative than what can be found on the internet?

it taught me how to do honest research and how to weigh evidence appropriately, rather than believing anything and everything i read on some BS website. you know, like ummie's post regarding osama's denial of carrying out 911. perhaps if ummie understood the wider political climate and context of the (supposed) declaration from osama he wouldn't be regurgitating known fallacies as if HE'S an authority. FYI i dont consider myself even close to an authority, but i DO know more than clowns like him that wouldn't know their arsehole from a hole in the ground.

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Originally posted by UmmiE The fact that you have that degree in terrorism and your hatred with a certian group of people shows why your are so ignorant and one sided.....I think its a perfect example of :-

i dont hate any certain groups (at least, not in the way that you think) im merely baiting you because your ignorance and pretend intellectualism pisses me off.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN it taught me how to do honest research and how to weigh evidence appropriately, rather than believing anything and everything i read on some BS website. you know, like ummie's post regarding osama's denial of carrying out 911. perhaps if ummie understood the wider political climate and context of the (supposed) declaration from osama he wouldn't be regurgitating known fallacies as if HE'S an authority. FYI i dont consider myself even close to an authority, but i DO know more than clowns like him that wouldn't know their arsehole from a hole in the ground.

Honestly I am not a osama fan sitting here and defending him.......I posted that article because it points towards a direction I think people should look into in which the Saudi Royal family and Bush Family have ties that go way back and I think politics these days is a very dirty business what we know through various media is just the tip of the iceberg.The actual real info is hidden from regular pubic eye,for personal and business benefits.

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Originally posted by UmmiE Honestly I not a osama fan sitting here and defending him.......I posted that article because it points towards a direction I think people should look into in which the Saudi Royal family and Bush Family have ties that go way back and I think politics these days is a very dirty business what we know through various media is just the tip of the iceberg.

what you did was post an article whose first statement (osama didn't carry out attacks) is blatantly untrue. there's no doubt that the saudi royal family are shit and their business links would extend to much of the world. what you havent done is actually linked anyone to anything meaningful.

for instance, what particular facts do you think you can glean from your post? its an honest question- what are you trying to say? that bush was in league with OBL and KSM? that AQ is really an arm of the CIA?

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Originally posted by UmmiE The actual real info is hidden from regular pubic eye,for personal and business benefits.

be that as it may, it is not reason enough to jump behind every conspiracy theory going round without any substantive reasons to do so.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN what you did was post an article whose first statement (osama didn't carry out attacks) is blatantly untrue. there's no doubt that the saudi royal family are shit and their business links would extend to much of the world. what you havent done is actually linked anyone to anything meaningful. for instance, what particular facts do you think you can glean from your post? its an honest question- what are you trying to say? that bush was in league with OBL and KSM? that AQ is really an arm of the CIA? be that as it may, it is not reason enough to jump behind every conspiracy theory going round without any substantive reasons to do so.

Every coin has two diferent sides......Just like how some people believe that "aliens do exist" and shit like that is real.....and there is a wide majority that thinks its just shit on tv and movies nothing real...the religious people vs athiests.

If you try to search you can find countless articles all over the web....I cant be bothered with it...I have mid term to study for....some people believe its true some dont......To each their own.

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Originally posted by UmmiE Every coin has two diferent sides......

no, there's the side with facts and then there's the deniers, liars and charlatans.

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Originally posted by UmmiE If you try to search you can find countless articles all over the web....

big deal. its easy to spread bullshit via links. means nothing. i know for a fact that your initial comments about osama's lack of involvement in 911 are in error; no need to do any more researching than that.

Okay so here is my question to you:-

Why have they not found OBL yet?8yrs of bush admin crying about how he is the most wanted man even with money on his head why have they failed to find him?.....they can read number plates of cars via satelites but cant find a guy who wears a turban and is hiding in the mountians?

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Originally posted by UmmiE Okay so here is my question to you:- Why have they not found OBL yet?8yrs of bush admin crying about how he is the most wanted man even with money on his head why have they failed to find him?.....they can read number plates of cars via satelites but cant find a guy who wears a turban and is hiding in the mountians?

Last time I checked, the world was a pretty big place. You act like the US is infallible, lol.

Can I ask you a question? Why have they captured KSM and why has he admitted master-minding the 911 attacks? Your "theory" must hold for both; your implicit insinuation is that they're deliberately letting OBL live out his life in the pakistani hills, why did they not also extend that luxury to KSM?

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH So what did they teach you at the Honours Level Terrorism course that's so much more authoritative than what can be found on the internet?

I'm sorry, but there is just no other way to say it: you are retarded.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Last time I checked, the world was a pretty big place. You act like the US is infallible, lol. Can I ask you a question? Why have they captured KSM and why has he admitted master-minding the 911 attacks? Your "theory" must hold for both; your implicit insinuation is that they're deliberately letting OBL live out his life in the pakistani hills, why did they not also extend that luxury to KSM?

But why would they? In what way would they be obligated to do the same for KSM?

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Originally posted by Domesticated I'm sorry, but there is just no other way to say it: you are retarded.

LOL how am I retarded? Do you just eat up everything that's spoonfed to you in school? Cause if so then you're the retard. Just because you slap on a fancy name like "honors" or whatever on something doesn't all of the sudden make it the be all end all authority.

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Originally posted by UmmiE Every coin has two diferent sides......Just like how some people believe that "aliens do exist" and shit like that is real.....and there is a wide majority that thinks its just shit on tv and movies nothing real...the religious people vs athiests.

Not two sides of the same coin where one needs to entertain both views. On one side you have facts. On the other, a bunch of conspiracy theorists and "believers"

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH But why would they? In what way would they be obligated to do the same for KSM?

because he's part of the grand overall evil government scheme, that's why. what does your silly question represent btw? that osama wasn't involved in 911 but KSM was? or that KSM is a "fall guy" for the adminisitration? why have AQ repeatedly claimed responsibility for the attacks?

anywayz, does anyone in here have the first fucking clue about what theyre talking about? or are they just repeating known fallacies and making horrible leaps of "logic" that make them look like fools?

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH LOL how am I retarded? Do you just eat up everything that's spoonfed to you in school? Cause if so then you're the retard. Just because you slap on a fancy name like "honors" or whatever on something doesn't all of the sudden make it the be all end all authority.

i never claimed to be an authority. i know more about it than anyone that has yet posted in this thread, but believe me, that aint no authority

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN i never claimed to be an authority. i know more about it than anyone that has yet posted in this thread, but believe me, that aint no authority

Well considering I'm retarded for questioning what this "Honours" course has to offer I wanted to know what his view was.

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH LOL how am I retarded? DO you just eat up everything that's spoonfed to you in school? Cause if so then you're the retard.

If that's your position then why don't we abolish all formal education and let people sit at home reading wikipedia and conspiracy theory sites all day in order to gain their degrees? There's a reason that university is expensive and websites are run by unemployed plebs from their garage. It's because professors and lecturers actually know what they're talking about.

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Originally posted by Domesticated If that's your position then why don't we abolish all formal education and let people sit at home reading wikipedia and conspiracy theory sites all day in order to gain their degrees? There's a reason that university is expensive and websites are run by unemployed plebs from their garage. It's because professors and lecturers actually know what they're talking about.

LOL Ok

*pat on the head*

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH Well considering I'm retarded for questioning what this "Honours" course has to offer I wanted to know what his view was.

Honours is a fourth year post grad course to prepare students for doctorates, obviously. What it doesn�t prepare one for is the sheer number of idiots that think because they browsed www.stupidconspiraciesthatonlymoronswouldbelieve.com suddenly they have all this knowledge that us "CNN educated" people have been missing.

Im willing to bet none of the fvckers in this thread had even heard of OBL before september 2001 so they can suck my dick with their erroneous beliefs.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Last time I checked, the world was a pretty big place. You act like the US is infallible, lol. Can I ask you a question? Why have they captured KSM and why has he admitted master-minding the 911 attacks? Your "theory" must hold for both; your implicit insinuation is that they're deliberately letting OBL live out his life in the pakistani hills, why did they not also extend that luxury to KSM?

Well they had to put someone infront of the public so that they can blame(point fingers at)say yes see we have the main master mind but but ya Osama was the dood that inspired him of his actions..all those 9/11 families out there asking answers some still dont know the truth of why it happened and whose behind it.

Well they have forced us to be believe that by telling us yes he is in the hills of Pakistan but have failed to catch him even though they have a huge presence of drones there that keep bombing places in the North West of Pakistan on suspected hide outs.....I think they are letting him run on purpose so that they have an excuse to stay in the region for their on interests.

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