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i'm gonna say BT.

awesome thread guys ,,,

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Originally posted by RapidFire Depeche have hit number 1 in many different places in their 30 year career and I'm sure the Pet Shop Boys have aswell but what you're listing here isn't influence or impact on electronic music, it's general popularity in the mainstream. Like sljiva said the list of electronic artists and genres they've impacted is far greater than that of PSB. They've even influenced Pet Shop Boys! Neil Tennant once said that he wished he could've made Violator. That being said I like PSB personally and there's no doubt they've done things for electronic music but not on the scope DM or New Order. Id say they've influenced pop music more than anything

I just was wondering how far they would be behind, since probably no-one here would even think of putting them at the list at all.
Meanwhile I found a list 1-200 and surprisingly Pet Shop Boys are in it at number 25 just behind PvD and way in front of Vangelis (51), who I would believed would rank higher.
This is a list and I don't claim it to be THE list, but it is a nice list to discuss.

(And Aphex Twin ranks 8th)

200 Greatest Artists of Electronic Music by enigmazach

Here is the Top25 of that list:

1 Kraftwerk
2 Tangerine Dream
3 Yellow Magic Orchestra
4 Brian Eno
5 Depeche Mode
6 New Order
7 Jean-Michel Jarre
8 Aphex Twin
9 Afrika Bambaataa
10 Giorgio Moroder
11 Juan Atkins/Cybotron
12 Daft Punk
13 The Orb
14 Moby
15 The Prodigy
16 The Chemical Brothers
17 Leftfield
18 The KLF
19 Massive Attack
20 Orbital
21 Larry Heard
22 Underworld
23 Gary Numan
24 Paul van Dyk
25 Pet Shop Boys

I have one question left: MIKE?

well the greatest musician ever has to be a person you brought you into the scene!!!! because it was his/hers magicial sound that created your interest in the first place

for me it was paul oakenfold, atb back in like 97...i didnt know what it sounded it like...when ur in like middle school u dont know shit!!!

hmmm if u want to go way back...then it has to be the guy that made the music for streets rage 1,2,and 3...especially 2. or that early poppy dance music of the late 80's i dont know...but it got me hooked...

as far as sayin whos the greatest of all time by skill then thats a tough one, because people taste changes all the time.

Deadmau5.

Now, seriously, while I don't have much to contribute here, this thread has remind me of lots and lots of names I still have to check out. Particularly this post:

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Originally posted by sljiva BTW, here's my suggestions (it's impossible to single out just one person): early times: Kraftwerk, JMJ, Tangerine Dream, Vangelis, Stockhausen techno: Belleville Three, Carl Craig, Kirk Degiorgio, Mad Mike, Hawtin house: Marshall Jefferson, Farley Jackmaster, Adonis, Larry Heard trance: Oliver Lieb, Cosmic Baby, Eye Q crew (Vath, Boutsen, Bzet...) drum&bass: Roni Size, Goldie, LTJ Bukem IDM: Autechre, AFX, Chris Clark Hardcore: Lenny Dee, Marc Trauner Ambient: Pete Namlook, Biosphere, Global Communications, CBL Trip Hop: Massive Attack, Portishead + others

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Originally posted by Trance-MB I just was wondering how far they would be behind, since probably no-one here would even think of putting them at the list at all. Meanwhile I found a list 1-200 and surprisingly Pet Shop Boys are in it at number 25 just behind PvD and way in front of Vangelis (51), who I would believed would rank higher. This is a list and I don't claim it to be THE list, but it is a nice list to discuss. (And Aphex Twin ranks 8th) 200 Greatest Artists of Electronic Music by enigmazach Here is the Top25 of that list: 1 Kraftwerk 2 Tangerine Dream 3 Yellow Magic Orchestra 4 Brian Eno 5 Depeche Mode 6 New Order 7 Jean-Michel Jarre 8 Aphex Twin 9 Afrika Bambaataa 10 Giorgio Moroder 11 Juan Atkins/Cybotron 12 Daft Punk 13 The Orb 14 Moby 15 The Prodigy 16 The Chemical Brothers 17 Leftfield 18 The KLF 19 Massive Attack 20 Orbital 21 Larry Heard 22 Underworld 23 Gary Numan 24 Paul van Dyk 25 Pet Shop Boys I have one question left: MIKE?

This is a good list, I agree with the great part of it. But it's also made by just one person, so of course it's quite subjective and not everybody will agree with the choices. For me, Moby, Paul Van Dyk and Pet Shop Boys shouldn't be on the list and Marshall Jefferson or Farley Jackmaster Funk should be there (they were definitely more important for house music than Larry Heard). In the end I think we cannot universally agree on top 25, but we can all agree that Kraftwerk was the most important electronic music band ever.

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Originally posted by sljiva In the end I think we cannot universally agree on top 25, but we can all agree that Kraftwerk was the most important electronic music band ever.

Definitely.

I was listening to Computer World recently. A lot of old records are influential, but I've never heard one that sounded so influential. You could hear a hundred subsequent tracks in every minute of music.

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Originally posted by Clovis The thread is titled, "Greatest electronic musician of all time" not "Who made a couple good tracks once"

If you want to get anal about who's a musician and who isn't then I'll agree and go with Vangelis, Beau Ray Fleming, Charles Mims Jr., Reggie Andrews, Bobby Orlando and Quincy Jones. Happy now?

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Originally posted by sljiva This is a good list, I agree with the great part of it. But it's also made by just one person, so of course it's quite subjective and not everybody will agree with the choices. In the end I think we cannot universally agree on top 25, but we can all agree that Kraftwerk was the most important electronic music band ever.

I agree.

Without a system to make this list we will never agree. I think we even wouldn't agree on the system used to make the list.

We could let DJ Mag make a poll.

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Originally posted by sljiva Ambient: Pete Namlook

do you really think namlook should be on that list? his works define mediocrity. i never knew how dull and uninspiring ambient can sound until i discovered namlook's label. granted, his older stuff from the early 90s showed some gleams of ingenuity on his part, but now he churns out generic crap at a breakneck speed. it's like he's not even trying anymore.

Simon Posford

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Originally posted by Noisician do you really think namlook should be on that list? his works define mediocrity. i never knew how dull and uninspiring ambient can sound until i discovered namlook's label. granted, his older stuff from the early 90s showed some gleams of ingenuity on his part, but now he churns out generic crap at a breakneck speed. it's like he's not even trying anymore.

Yeah, even though he's awfully mediocre sometimes (especially lately), he's undeniably the first name of ambient in my book. The guy made so many classics it's not even funny (not all of them are pure ambient though):
Air (I & II)
Namlook (I & II)
Syn

and especially his collabs with:
Mixmaster Morris (Dreamfish)
Klaus Schulze (Dark Side Of The Moog)
Move D (even the newer ones are great)
Biosphere (The Fires Of Ork)
M. Maurice (4Voice)
....

In terms of quality neither one of his god knows how many albums touches SAWII, Substrata or Three Organic Experiences IMO, but he made a lot of awesome music and I respect him very much.

nothing at all comes close to SAWII. it's pretty much in a league of its own.

They certainly arent "the best" but i believe theyre worth mentioning

John Dahlback
Marcus Schossow
George Acosta

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Originally posted by Rastapasta They certainly arent "the best" but i believe theyre worth mentioning John Dahlback Marcus Schossow George Acosta

Good grief.

George Acosta?

Brian Eno
Harold Budd
Tangerine Dream
Richard D. James
Richard Smith

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Originally posted by Rastapasta Marcus Schossow

You gotto be shitting me.

Air. 10,000 Hz Legend cannot be denied, I fell in love with it again the other day.

Or whoever came up with the intro to Everything In It's Right Place. Simply beautiful, and I hate Kid A.

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Originally posted by Az thomas fucking bangalter

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Originally posted by Lefkimi Air. 10,000 Hz Legend cannot be denied, I fell in love with it again the other day. Or whoever came up with the intro to Everything In It's Right Place. Simply beautiful, and I hate Kid A.

Air is good, really good, but I don't think they are the greatest of all time.

Thats probably a good thing too, it'd be a shame to have a lot of people copying their style.

Anyone mentioned Ulrich Schnauss?

How about Moritz von Oswald?

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Originally posted by djj How about Moritz von Oswald?

definitely one of the top guys for "techno" in a more narrow sense

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