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Originally posted by henryv I would like airbase's take on this topic.

You already know what he's gonna say... HE USES it and makes GREAT music. This thread is beat.

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Originally posted by aquila2 You're.

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Originally posted by Lucidity That would be correct genius, now lets hear your music, where is it jackoff? At least I put mine out there, you see I don't mind if you talk shit about me being a noob, cause I will admit that I am still learning, but, how you gonna talk shit, then not put yourself out there? I don't know if you are a noob or not. I was just sayin, cause to say that you have to have more analog that is real noob. I'm sorry, but, I may be noob but, I can still get awesome sounds out of a PC, I don't need hardware like u. And Ableton Live is just fine, learn how to use it correctly.

You do realise his initial post was a complete joke, and the fact that you took it seriously....

Sasha uses Ableton too for producing, but still do the mixdown in a different DAW, he said something in an interview about Ableton having a 2 dimensional sound.

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Originally posted by Subtle You do realise his initial post was a complete joke, and the fact that you took it seriously....

That is why I said I hope he is being sarcastic, he could have said yes or no. I was interested in this thread till he posted that response.

I wasn't sure if he was being sarcastic, because you of all people should know how many people post stupid responses like that and are totally serious, I just wanted to know if he was serious or not.

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Originally posted by echosystm

Sorry, I honestly didn't know if you were being sarcastic or not.

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Originally posted by Lucidity That would be correct genius, now lets hear your music, where is it jackoff? At least I put mine out there, you see I don't mind if you talk shit about me being a noob, cause I will admit that I am still learning, but, how you gonna talk shit, then not put yourself out there? I don't know if you are a noob or not. I was just sayin, cause to say that you have to have more analog that is real noob. I'm sorry, but, I may be noob but, I can still get awesome sounds out of a PC, I don't need hardware like u. And Ableton Live is just fine, learn how to use it correctly.

I found a picture of you and your father. You are on the left.

looks like your mom stroking my cock.

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Originally posted by Lucidity I wasn't sure if he was being sarcastic, because you of all people should know how many people post stupid responses like that and are totally serious, I just wanted to know if he was serious or not.

If you know what kind of things people post on here you should know what echo is like..

Hilarious response tho mate made ME laugh

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Originally posted by Lucidity looks like your mom stroking my cock.

You must be the swiss army knife of tools.

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Originally posted by Lucidity looks like your mom stroking my cock.

looks like your bicycle planting cabbages.

OWNED!

I'm curious if anyone has noticed any strange latency issues in Ableton whilst trying to record and monitor say... a vocal... at the same time

interestingly enough i have none of the same problems in Logic with the same setup (and yes, i did fiddle a LOT with all the settings for that in ableton)

curious if its because im running bootcamp and ableton 7 is on my windows OS on my mac pro... but again, NONE of these issues in Logic... and the computer is only a few months old and everything is freshly installed

I have heard a lot of interesting feedback about vocal sound quality in ableton and as a former cubase user (until a few weeks ago) i definitely didnt want to record vox in ableton...

seems its just.. more like watercolor rather than precision ink on paper kinda concept... brilliant for sketching ideas and performing live on the fly, but perhaps not the tool really for producing best quality material

I eat cheeseburgers while producing on Ableton 7.

Carry on..

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Originally posted by Carlos Pereira I eat cheeseburgers while producing on Ableton 7. Carry on..

lol im a newb so i cant say much

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Originally posted by Luminary lol im a newb so i cant say much

dude im teh n00bz too...
even when I tried Logic that one time, I had a cheeseburger in my hands.

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Originally posted by chuckluis I recently did a track and based it around some vinyl samples... i work mostly in logic but know ableton pretty well and was more comfortable with warping in there, so i recorded all the sampled parts into ableton and warped and pitched them (using complex mode) straight in live. when I was 90% done with the project and after noticing the samples had that trademark warp distortion (especially on the highs) etc. I decided to just take those same parts and redo them straight in logic to see if there was a difference. Let me tell you, after doing this, the samples right away sounded 100% better and instantly fit in the mix much better as well. Hopefully with 8 when they start using the 'pro' warp algorithm this issue will be cleared up, but for now im just sticking with logic.

never use complex mode unless you want to purposely ruin the sound!

ableton's great, but the more you know what you're doing the better the result that comes out of it will be.

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Originally posted by Luminary I'm curious if anyone has noticed any strange latency issues in Ableton whilst trying to record and monitor say... a vocal... at the same time interestingly enough i have none of the same problems in Logic with the same setup (and yes, i did fiddle a LOT with all the settings for that in ableton) curious if its because im running bootcamp and ableton 7 is on my windows OS on my mac pro... but again, NONE of these issues in Logic... and the computer is only a few months old and everything is freshly installed I have heard a lot of interesting feedback about vocal sound quality in ableton and as a former cubase user (until a few weeks ago) i definitely didnt want to record vox in ableton... seems its just.. more like watercolor rather than precision ink on paper kinda concept... brilliant for sketching ideas and performing live on the fly, but perhaps not the tool really for producing best quality material

why is your ableton live on windows and not on mac?? it's cross-platform, so you can install it on both platforms.

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Originally posted by Lolo why is your ableton live on windows and not on mac?? it's cross-platform, so you can install it on both platforms.

Attention please. This is LOLO the piracy police. In your computer, watching you pirate.

0_o
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Originally posted by Luminary curious if its because im running bootcamp and ableton 7 is on my windows OS on my mac pro... but again, NONE of these issues in Logic... and the computer is only a few months old and everything is freshly installed

Running apps in virtual machines is never the best option but I don't understand why you want to record AND monitor the same audio simultaneously. It's like if I were trying to record myself talking and wanting to hear it precisely although I'll never do since I'm talking over the recorded audio

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Originally posted by kitphillips Attention please. This is LOLO the piracy police. In your computer, watching you pirate. 0_o 0_o

he was wondering why that guy was running ableton in Bootcamp and not just running it natively in OS X? Whats that got to do with piracy

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Originally posted by DJ NEMESIS never use complex mode unless you want to purposely ruin the sound! ableton's great, but the more you know what you're doing the better the result that comes out of it will be.

But that's not all...

-Always hit the high quality button
-record at 32 bits,render at 32 bits
-don't move or automate the volume sliders
-don't apply any groove
-dont warp or fade, or transpose or detune

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Originally posted by evo8 he was wondering why that guy was running ableton in Bootcamp and not just running it natively in OS X? Whats that got to do with piracy

I think you got yourself the wrong gender there .

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Originally posted by Luminary I'm curious if anyone has noticed any strange latency issues in Ableton whilst trying to record and monitor say... a vocal... at the same time interestingly enough i have none of the same problems in Logic with the same setup (and yes, i did fiddle a LOT with all the settings for that in ableton)

As said before, why would you want to record and monitor yourself at the same time? I don't know your setup, but if you have a mixer, you can monitor yourself thru that.

But if it's a real problem, why not record in Cubase/Logic and edit in Ableton. The quality of the vocal recorderd depends on the A/D converters of your soundcard, not the DAW.

I've download the trial version of Ableton yesterday to see what all this fuss is about, and it actually got me excited (I'm a die hard Cubase user). I think Ableton is very nice for quickly creating some ideas. I haven't even closely finished a track in Ableton, so I don't know how that's like. But for the sake of it, I'm relying on Cubase.

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Originally posted by evo8 he was wondering why that guy was running ableton in Bootcamp and not just running it natively in OS X? Whats that got to do with piracy

You apparently can't really get pirated software for mac

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