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Originally posted by asdfg here's zebra2 with delay http://www.sendspace.com/file/qhottt

This one sounds best of all i think.

Zebra does sound good.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Okay, here are seven files, each with a different soft-synth doing the Deadmau5 riff: Korg Mono-Poly VST: http://jbj.raceriv.com/sounds/mono-poly-vst.mp3 Korg PolySix VST: http://jbj.raceriv.com/sounds/polysixVST-2.mp3 Korg MS-20 VST: http://jbj.raceriv.com/sounds/ms-20vst.mp3 impOSCar: http://jbj.raceriv.com/sounds/impOSCar.mp3 Vanguard: http://jbj.raceriv.com/sounds/vanguard.mp3 Pro-53: http://jbj.raceriv.com/sounds/pro-53.mp3 Massive: http://jbj.raceriv.com/sounds/massive.mp3 A couple of the files have clicks or pops, so please excuse that. I re-did the envelope on the PolySix demo. The Vanguard clip has a bit much detuning. I don't think impOSCar is suited that well for this task, but I used it anyway because it's one of my favorite synths. I think my personal favorite out of these might be the MS-20, really smooth at the bottom and gritty at the top. I also like the sound of the Mono-Poly. You can judge for yourselves, though.

Liking that Vanguard sample actually.
One of my fav synths.

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Originally posted by alanzo Andromeda pwns you all.

Post sample!!!

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Originally posted by Subtle Liking that Vanguard sample actually. One of my fav synths.

Seriously? I think it's probably the worst of the bunch. Sounds horribly thin and raspy, despite the fact that I usually like Vanguard.

And there's the problem. Everyone has their own tastes but a few of the softsynths have proven that they can easily match hardware. Albino3 and Zebra sound fantastic.

So I've listened to most of them now....

Thor: As I already said, not as cutting, or honky as the original.

Alchemy: Not at all close, much too detuned. And pretty plasticy sounding in a way too.

Zebra: Impossible to tell since theres delay/reverb. It IS my favourite, but I'm writing this down to the fact its got effects on it.

Z2ta: Close but more brittle sounding

Sylenth: different character, but pretty similar. Much grittier in the high midrange less gritty in the low

Albino: again, a different character. More gritty in the top end and less in the low mids

Massive: Different character, a lot smoother and less qritty

I wouldn't say that any of them really sound better than the others, the only ones I don't like are thor and alchemy. Massive, albino, Sylenth and Zebra all have really nice character of their own IMO. Massive certainly stands out as the most different, which might be because of my poor programming.

Could someone else have a crack at emulating the sound in Massive?

To me, its quite clear that theres as much diversity and excellent sounds amongst the VSTs as there are in the virus contingent.

Also could we PLEASE keep the discussion to a minimum. I just want people to post samples and other people to comment. No analogies about how synths are like women or cars, or cheese. Robby rox, please post a sample if that's what you believe. This thread is about not bullshitting, its about proof.

If anyone has analogue synths or Nord leads and they want to post samples of a sound and see if people can emulate it, then please do.

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Originally posted by kitphillips Could someone else have a crack at emulating the sound in Massive?

I posted a Massive sample, along with six other synths, a few posts up.

Cool, sorry I missed that one! Thats closer than mine in some ways.
What settings did you use? I think theres too much detune, but the character's similar. Sounds almost like you might be using a polysaw oscillator though? Which filter too?

I really like your korg mono poly version, thats very close to the original mickey sound. The imposcar one is awesme too.

The vanguard one is hideous though IMO, heaps too much detune and just not nice The other's are all a bit off IMO, but still intersting to hear, and it certainly proves the diversity of software.

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Originally posted by kitphillips Cool, sorry I missed that one! Thats closer than mine in some ways. What settings did you use? I think theres too much detune, but the character's similar. Sounds almost like you might be using a polysaw oscillator though? Which filter too?

I don't remember the exact settings I used, but for oscillators I used the "square-saw" and for filter I used the plain Lowpass 4, I think with just a little resonance. You're right that there's too much detune in it, though.

I agree that the Mono Poly sound is probably the closest to the mau5 track.

Cool, I'll have another go at it using the square saw Oscillator. It sound different to the Saw I and II oscillators. Were you just using plain spectrum mode or bend mode? I was using Bend+/- on it but it kept getting too smooth...

Edit: Actually just realised, I was using the square-saw II oscillator in the first place...

Spectrum.

dont think anyone has posted a Surge yet - bit harsher than the virus

surge

So can we get some opinions from people now about whether a virus neccesarily sounds better?

Having listened to the best that software can do, what do people think about the quality of each?


PS
I'd still like to get some Nord/moog/andromeda/prophet 08 samples up there...

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Originally posted by EgosXII wow, glad i'm getting a virus

Don't agree, it's the overall result that counts.
SW vs HW, you try your any VSTi with any VST delay you like, I'm not picky. My opinion is still being confirmed, VSTi's STILL sound thin and harsh, not dense and warm.... blame the FX, blame the VSTi, there is still no 100% VSTi replacement for outboard....

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Okay, here are seven files, each with a different soft-synth doing the Deadmau5 riff: Korg Mono-Poly VST: http://jbj.raceriv.com/sounds/mono-poly-vst.mp3 Korg PolySix VST: http://jbj.raceriv.com/sounds/polysixVST-2.mp3 Korg MS-20 VST: http://jbj.raceriv.com/sounds/ms-20vst.mp3 impOSCar: http://jbj.raceriv.com/sounds/impOSCar.mp3 Vanguard: http://jbj.raceriv.com/sounds/vanguard.mp3 Pro-53: http://jbj.raceriv.com/sounds/pro-53.mp3 Massive: http://jbj.raceriv.com/sounds/massive.mp3 A couple of the files have clicks or pops, so please excuse that. I re-did the envelope on the PolySix demo. The Vanguard clip has a bit much detuning. I don't think impOSCar is suited that well for this task, but I used it anyway because it's one of my favorite synths. I think my personal favorite out of these might be the MS-20, really smooth at the bottom and gritty at the top. I also like the sound of the Mono-Poly. You can judge for yourselves, though.

to add to the fun. why not freeware?

Deadmau5

Sorry, it's not the same melody but i made this sometime ago with synth1

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Originally posted by Raphie Don't agree, it's the overall result that counts. SW vs HW, you try your any VSTi with any VST delay you like, I'm not picky. My opinion is still being confirmed, VSTi's STILL sound thin and harsh, not dense and warm.... blame the FX, blame the VSTi, there is still no 100% VSTi replacement for outboard....

i think that if someone posted a sound file from a virus, and said it was from a softsynth, you would still say it sounded "thin and harsh"

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Originally posted by thecYrus to add to the fun. why not freeware? Deadmau5 Sorry, it's not the same melody but i made this sometime ago with synth1

That sounds fantastic! Amazing that Synth1 is freeware.

JBJ, that MS-20 clip sounds great as well.

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Originally posted by evo8 i think that if someone posted a sound file from a virus, and said it was from a softsynth, you would still say it sounded "thin and harsh"

LOL. Somebody already said that about the Virus, basically. After a second Virus clip was posted, Robby Rox said:

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox Why does that sound different than the original virus patch posted by subtle? That sounds like z3ta or sylenth..

Just get over it, guys.

Andromeda
Using the 24db/oct filter
This has no stereo spread on the detune, since the andy has no such.

Rendered 24 bit file, by mistake.

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Originally posted by Beyer Andromeda Using the 24db/oct filter This has no stereo spread on the detune, since the andy has no such. Rendered 24 bit file, by mistake.

Sounds good.

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Originally posted by thecYrus to add to the fun. why not freeware? Deadmau5 Sorry, it's not the same melody but i made this sometime ago with synth1

Sounds really good. Would you mind sharing the preset or midi file? Thanks.

had a listen to a few... pretty cool.

my take on the whole thing (at least for the producitons in question) were paired saws (about .2 ish semitones apart) and a single osc panned in the center with no detune but should be a tad louder than the panned osc's, reason for that is to keep equal tunning to the rest of the tuned elements in the track without cutting through the mix so much)


then pass that shiat through a verb, more or less washes it out a bit... bit of a decay, but nothing overly wet, about 20/80...... then a tempo synced delay with a crossover around the mids+ and time the tempo delay to the note retriggers... and for yup, more space, offset the delay by 2 milliseconds or so to make yourself a faux layer for justa tad more stereo depth (when using a stereo delay that is)

lastly, i tend to stay away from resonation in general... with analogue gear its almost always a bit dodgy on the keytracking, and with software it always tends to color the sound too much for my likking before it gets to an EQ on it's respective bus.

and lastly, i'd always level out the cutoff env's min and max levels before automating and going to town for a consistent sound in either a build / break. i never considered using a volume env (with the exception of a release time) but the "punchiness" comes from a cutoff envelope of sorts, (which is more pronounced after a bit of say 8:1 compression with a fast attack and 20ms or so release.


not sure what else i can offer in respect to that "saw stabby whatever" sound. But that was my approach on the whole sound.

Not Exactly - Dry recording (Nordled / 2 Oscs + Zeta for upper harmonies)

http://www.deadmau5.com/whatever/dm_ne_dry.wav

Faxing Berlin - Dry recording (Juno 106 saws / Non unison)
http://www.deadmau5.com/whatever/dm...ry_NoUnison.wav

Faxing berlin - Post FX (cheap ass chorus VST + ableton verb / Post EQ / Post Comp

http://www.deadmau5.com/whatever/dm..._Wet_Unison.wav

Thanks for sharing with us Mau5, the wet sample sounds really good.

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Done using sylenth1
First one has lots and lots of release.. i just thought it sounded more 'trancier'
Second one has no release.

yeah i know it sucks.. but meh..

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Originally posted by deadmau5 then pass that shiat through a verb, more or less washes it out a bit... bit of a decay, but nothing overly wet, about 20/80......

Excellent thread.

Thanks for the insight, Joel.

Do you find any benefit in going the route of layering a separate wet and dry signal, instead of dropping a verb over the whole sound? (Somewhat similar to doing New York/parallel compression.)

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