TranceAddict Forums (www.tranceaddict.com/forums)
- Chill Out Room
-- The Skool thread (how smart is TA?)
Pages (11): « 1 2 3 [4] 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 »

quote:

Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov That's actually not so bad. At least there's a common theme.

Haha yeah.. its not like I jumped from Theatre to Nursing to Fashion design.. that would be hard to explain

I went from philosophy to chem. Easy to explain.

quote:

Originally posted by Zild start cracking old people jokes i fucking hate old people so much

I can't. :/

I'm in the direction with Omega M. I'm on my masters for mechanical engineering.

NASA.

quote:

Originally posted by ziptnf I agree, I don't know what's so cool about a muggy climate and rain 24/7, old people, cubans, and nothing but block after block of buildings and homeless people.

that's Little Havana.

Honours BA in English+Cultural Theory
Honours BA in French Linguistics

Currently completing a BA in Translation and doing prep for my MA in Translation

Also combining my Translation degree with Business Communication because I realized I have no business savvy whatsoever.

I want to finish my degree and be an in-house translator for any fairly large enterprise. Working freelance is too random - I have had contracts for anything from grocery marketing to immigration papers.
I'm gunning for an internship in Quebec for next May.

BSc in Geology from Purdue University. Took a 4 year break and currently working on a PhD in Geology at University of Western Ontario. Cumulative GPA of 3.65.

As far as work goes there are two routes in the Geo field that are huge right now, soft/hard rock Geo (oil/gas and mineral industry) and Enviro consulting. Starting salary with a Masters in oil/gas is anywhere from 80-100k. But considering my thesis deals with Enviro Geology, oil/gar would be the last place i'd work.

EDIT: I will probably end up playing beach volley as long as i can, then become a pro fly fisherman. So much for all that education, ha

quote:

Originally posted by mezzir I got a fairly shitty GPA, probably in the 2.7 rangeish right now, in my second to last semester towards a degree in economics. As for grades, grades don't measure intelligence, fuck that. I focus on learning the material. If I don't well on an assignment, but I remember and can apply it better a year later than an A student, well then who's better off? Then again, I've always been a fan of curving stuff so that the class average is a C, every time. A's should be earned, and frankly its fucking stupid to give people who just do all the work an A, right?

No, curved grading is ridiculous in small classes. The whole idea of curved grading is that the students determine the standards they must aspire to, rather than having the standards set for them. This is both positive and negative, because:

a) It's a fairly accurate way of gauging a person's real skills in comparison to others, and therefore in the real world.

b) If everyone included in the curve is stupid, or performs poorly, even the poorly skilled people will get marked well.

For this to succeed, the sample needs to be large, i.e 1000 people. It works in these cases. I get marked on bell curves at the moment and it's complete and utter bullshit in a class of 25 people. You should be marked on your own merits and whether your work is of good standard, not whether someone's is better than yours.

Also, to a certain degree I agree with you that grades don't measure intelligence, but I think it's a real cop out for you to pass off your poor grades for that reason. An intelligent person should be able to figure out how to get the good grades, even if the actual testing for them seems ridiculous.

It's the same with the license test; it's a ridiculous exercise which doesn't actually measure your driving ability, but if you're a good driver you should able to work out what they're after and pass anyway.

quote:

Originally posted by Zild Strengths and weaknesses aren't what I was talking about. I was talking about the intrinsic difficulty of a specific program compared to others. Like comparing a physics degree to a degree in women's studies. I'm sure kids who failed out of the physics program are still more intelligent than A students in women's studies.

I think that's very condescending of you. Though I like hard science, I've always been better at social sciences. I did physics, chemistry and maths in my final year of school and passed all of them at around 70%, but my forte has always been English, History, etc. I'm sick of hearing hard scientists say they are smarter than people doing humanities. The one thing you all forget is that in maths or physics, there is always a "right" or a "wrong" answer; once you've worked it out, you either get it or you don't. In social sciences and whatnot, this same attribute does not apply, and that makes things hard too.

To say that a physics student is "more intelligent" than someone studying women's studies is erroneous, because you're obviously judging intelligence by your own biased standards. A physics student might be able to work out the mass of a planet, but placed on the street they'd probably struggle to read a bus timetable because it doesn't conform to the hard rules they've bent their lives to, or they might struggle to write grammatically correct sentences or spell properly.

On the other hand, someone doing women's studies might struggle to work out how much change they should receive after buying dinner, but plonk them in the middle of a foreign country and they'd be able to find their way home with superior interaction and problem solving skills. It's all relative.

A perfect example with which I have personal experience is architects. Architects are smart, right? They build stuff and use complex geometry and engineering. Find me an architect who can spell and I'll find you a women's studies student who is smarter than a physicist.

Lastly, I think a lot of people fail to make the distinction between being truly intelligent and simply having a good memory for facts and rote learning. In line with what mezzir said, many of the rote learners achieve good marks but are not genuinely clever.

quote:

Originally posted by Ania_xox Honours BA in English+Cultural Theory Honours BA in French Linguistics

Yeah, I remember that you got your "honor's" in English. Great University system in Canada.

quote:

Originally posted by Domesticated Yeah, I remember that you got your "honor's" in English. Great University system in Canada.

haha, anyone who got suckered into an honors program makes me LOL.

you got the same piece of paper all of us "normies" got.

its just like the service academies comapred to ROTC...why the hell would you go through that shit for 4 years when you pin on the exact same rank as us. LOL.

As far as I know Honor's program students get some type of label on their degree for the program, or they at least get some sort of recognition.

quote:

Originally posted by tubularbills haha, anyone who got suckered into an honors program makes me LOL. you got the same piece of paper all of us "normies" got. its just like the service academies comapred to ROTC...why the hell would you go through that shit for 4 years when you pin on the exact same rank as us. LOL.

The honours degree isn't a bad idea if you're intending on pursuing a Masters or a Doctorate. As far as I know, the only difference is that an Honours requires you to complete an Undergrad thesis. All in all, its a bonus to have published something as an Undergrad and its great practice for writing a MSc/PhD thesis. That being said, i didn't bother with it!

quote:

Originally posted by Domesticated Yeah, I remember that you got your "honor's" in English. Great University system in Canada.

In your post, the word "university" is being used to modify the word "system", and does not take a capital "u" as it is not a proper noun.
























































































stick to this

quote:

Originally posted by matty The honours degree isn't a bad idea if you're intending on pursuing a Masters or a Doctorate. As far as I know, the only difference is that an Honours requires you to complete an Undergrad thesis. All in all, its a bonus to have published something as an Undergrad and its great practice for writing a MSc/PhD thesis. That being said, i didn't bother with it!

oh, and i think maybe they get a different colored tassel or something.

i don't know - i did a regular program, and i still had to do a Thesis. ISU was one of like 3 schools in the country that required it for a meteorology degree. it was one of the reasons why i did my degree in 5 years, not 4 -> so when i was taking thesis class, i was also taking bowling, racquetball, and my ROTC stuff and that was it. haha.

i guess the Honors program would be good for getting into schools for higher education. looking at high school; i took honors math classes, and the guys who tok the regular ones still had no problems getting into any state school, really. lol.

quote:

Originally posted by Domesticated For this to succeed, the sample needs to be large, i.e 1000 people. It works in these cases. I get marked on bell curves at the moment and it's complete and utter bullshit in a class of 25 people. You should be marked on your own merits and whether your work is of good standard, not whether someone's is better than yours.

1000 sample size my ass, your degree is not in stats I assume


For any kind of standardized test validation yes 1000 is a minimum, but for a college test that is assessing knowledge of 3 or 4 chapters in a text book, 25 is plenty to weed out the poor questions, which is all a curve is meant to correct for.

Each student is exposed to a certain curriculum, and we assume a certain percentage of students actually understand the material (especially the highest scorer). However poor questions are poor questions, and no matter how much anyone knows the material, they will get these questions wrong. So the curve corrects for these.

Although I never graded on a curve when I taught. I did shift my grading scale when I taught Psy 101 so that 85%+ = A, 75+ = B etc... I still failed a fair number of students.




For me its an AS in Technical drafting and tool design, BS in Psychology, MA in Experimental Psy...working on PhD.

b.a. from tufts and m.s from nyu

quote:

Originally posted by Ania_xox In your post, the word "university" is being used to modify the word "system", and does not take a capital "u" as it is not a proper noun.

You: five years at university to identify a proper noun.

Me: quit a property degree after a mere six months but still managed to hand you your fat arse on a plate.

quote:

Originally posted by Boomer187 For any kind of standardized test validation yes 1000 is a minimum, but for a college test that is assessing knowledge of 3 or 4 chapters in a text book, 25 is plenty to weed out the poor questions, which is all a curve is meant to correct for.

No, see this is the problem.

If you assess a maths class on 3-4 chapters of a book by setting them 50 questions, THEY EITHER KNOW THE MATERIAL OR THEY DON'T, it's ridiculous to mark on a bell curve. If you're a shit teacher and no one knows the material, someone is still going to get an A+, just for being the best, even though their actual abilities are rather poor.

quote:

Originally posted by Boomer187 Each student is exposed to a certain curriculum, and we assume a certain percentage of students actually understand the material (especially the highest scorer). However poor questions are poor questions, and no matter how much anyone knows the material, they will get these questions wrong. So the curve corrects for these.

This comes down to a matter of opinion and I'm not saying you're wrong, but I think this is a flawed way to think. Whoever sets the questions should be setting them properly, not setting questions which are fundamentally flawed. By your reasoning it would be impossible for anyone to get 100% on a test, regardless of how easy it is.

quote:

Originally posted by Ania_xox Honours BA in English+Cultural Theory Honours BA in French Linguistics Currently completing a BA in Translation and doing prep for my MA in Translation Also combining my Translation degree with Business Communication because I realized I have no business savvy whatsoever. I want to finish my degree and be an in-house translator for any fairly large enterprise. Working freelance is too random - I have had contracts for anything from grocery marketing to immigration papers. I'm gunning for an internship in Quebec for next May.

Why in the world would you get three Bachelor's degrees? If the Canadian system is anything like the United States', that would require 10+ years and only get you a raised eyebrow in a job interview. Do you mean that you had multiple majors, or are these abbreviated degrees?

quote:

Originally posted by chimera66 b.a. from tufts and m.s from nyu

I came very close to going to Tufts, but they didn't give me enough money. Given the combination of degrees, I'm guessing psych or econ?

quote:

Originally posted by Ania_xox Also combining my Translation degree with Business Communication because I realized I have no business savvy whatsoever.

By the way, this is what's hilarious about university. People go there to learn "management", "marketing" or any other number of bullshit things that basically can't be taught.

I think uni is very valuable, but in general society is far too focussed on education and pieces of paper with your name on them rather than workplace training and genuine ability.

quote:

Originally posted by Domesticated By the way, this is what's hilarious about university. People go there to learn "management", "marketing" or any other number of bullshit things that basically can't be taught. I think uni is very valuable, but in general society is far too focussed on education and pieces of paper with your name on them rather than workplace training and genuine ability.

Intuition only goes so far.

quote:

Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Intuition only goes so far.

In regards to what?

quote:

Originally posted by tubularbills haha, anyone who got suckered into an honors program makes me LOL. you got the same piece of paper all of us "normies" got. its just like the service academies comapred to ROTC...why the hell would you go through that shit for 4 years when you pin on the exact same rank as us. LOL.

its so we dont have to end up as a grunt in the military.

quote:

Originally posted by Domesticated In regards to what?

Management.

Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright © 2000-2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.