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Originally posted by jennypie Well you said you have no sympathy for MOST of them. And I'm telling you that MOST of them require more social support/therapy/help than is available to them. And MOST of them are NOT, nor will they ever be of sound mind to be able to do for themselves. Believe me, as I said, I used to think the same way...until I did my mental health rotation and learned the reality of it.

some homeless people are debilitated by handicaps (physical and mental) that prevent them from being productive. there are also those who, at best, choose not to try to be productive. I think there are more of the latter, you think it's the opposite.

I don't think, I KNOW, for a fact.

Here's an example:

I think any one of those bums could be a Walmart greeter:

* They utter a phrase and make eye contact if you're within a 2-foot radius - Those should be the only requirements for this position
* They stand in one spot all day long without being bored

I rest my case

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Originally posted by jennypie I don't think, I KNOW, for a fact.

If you have stats, fine. I don't. I'm just guessing. It depends on what they consider 'disability,' though. There's a difference between abnormal and incapacitated.

being 'below average' or even depressed isn't an excuse, imo. there are so many programs & services out there to at least give these people a running start that the 'I can't do it' mentality isn't excusable. On the other hand, as you mentioned, there are those with conditions like severe bipolar disorder with mania or schizophrenia who, even with the best care, are not able to do much by way of normal contribution to society.

Addiction is a big one too, which also falls into the spectrum of mental illness.

are we talking about having sympathy for homeless people now?

i usually feel sorta bad for them and i've given a dollar here and there if i had it. i bought a bum a 6 pack one time too lol my bf hates bums and never feels sorry for them so we get into these convos pretty regularly. i'm with jenny. lots of them are war veterens with mental disorders and it's a lot easier said than done to say "oh get a job, there's services available to you, bla bla bla" it's sad.

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Originally posted by jennypie Addiction is a big one too, which also falls into the spectrum of mental illness.

It's something that can be managed, even if it's biological and can't be 'overcome,' so I'm not going to give that a pass. Hard, yes. Unreasonable, no.

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Originally posted by inconspicuous It's something that can be managed, even if it's biological and can't be 'overcome,' so I'm not going to give that a pass. Hard, yes. Unreasonable, no.

Are you fucking kidding me, dude? Try working with these people and tell me it's easy to manage, lol. There are so many factors at play, an no it is NOT easy to manage.

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Originally posted by jennypie Addiction is a big one too, which also falls into the spectrum of mental illness.

this is one "mental illness" that i have a hard time sympathizing with, even though i have a borderline addictive personality. i just cannot for the life of me understand how people cannot control their addictions.

Re: Bankruptcy Question

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Originally posted by FromAbove This is a serious thread.

good one

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Originally posted by jennypie Are you fucking kidding me, dude? Try working with these people and tell me it's easy to manage, lol. There are so many factors at play, an no it is NOT easy to manage.

I know. That's why I said it's hard (you even quoted it).

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery I don't know which is worse, reading your inane drivel on every fucking thread or watching that horse-face right next to the self-induldged pap.

Jesus suffering Christ

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Originally posted by inconspicuous I know. That's why I said it's hard (you even quoted it).

Ah, I misread.

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Originally posted by jennypie It isn't the fact that he's dependent on his parents, it's that he has no fucking idea how to become self sufficient. That's pretty pathetic. I know a lot of dependent 20-something's as well...but their parents have at least equipped them with the life skills to know where to fucking start.

What a condescending hoorbag you are.

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Originally posted by jennypie Ah, I misread.

-this is where someone who knew you would post some obscenity-

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Originally posted by RickyM What a condescending hoorbag you are.

Awww, somebody's bothered by people he doesn't know on the internets. Fag.

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Originally posted by jennypie Awww, somebody's bothered by people he doesn't know on the internets. Fag.

Die in a car fire.

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Originally posted by RickyM Die in a car fire.

Loser!!

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Originally posted by jennypie Loser!!

Spunk sponge.

i'm writing this from my cell, really don't have time to give a proper response.

mental illness is real (in some cases), there are laws and regulations that deal with those things, depending on which state you are in...

have a great weekend, bye...

I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT YOU CANNOT ENTER A CONTRACT IF YOU ARE MENTLLY ILL...

NO CONTRACT = NO JOB. MY LOGIC.

Holy fuck, calm down dude.

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Originally posted by jennypie Holy fuck, calm down dude.

Just amusing myself, continue with the hooring.

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Originally posted by winston I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT YOU CANNOT ENTER A CONTRACT IF YOU ARE MENTLLY ILL... NO CONTRACT = NO JOB. MY LOGIC.

Most employment is just 'at will'

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