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Originally posted by nefardec maybe i can help you understand one perspective- not everyone is a gung-ho consumer of the nightclub product. personally, i don't dance unless i am MOVED to dance. If it sucks but I'm there with friends, I'd rather hang out with friends and hope it gets better. I resent the idea that you need to dance if you are at a nightclub, just because everyone else is or because you are in an environment conditions one to dance. Those are the worst parties, those parties where everyone dances because they think they should and they are a little tispy (most nightclub experiences). You end up with a lot of people awkwardly moving in tight social circles and drinking to lose their self-conscious behavior. There are always those people, of course, who just like to dance alone regardless, whether for escapist reasons, exhibitionist reasons, or health, or whatever. Personally, my take on it is if the music moves me, i won't be able to help myself from dancing. If I am in a crowd where most people can't help themselves from dancing, it feels fucking awesome. You feed off people's energy, feel interconnected, etc. There's no need to get fucked up, no need to cluster awkwardly. I prefer to be in such an environment where everybody loses their shit. That said, if I'm NOT feeling it, I don't dance. First reason is I don't feel you should give the DJ the wrong impression if you think the music sucks. If you think the music sucks, don't dance. If the DJ changes things up and you like it, show him/her you appreciate it by dancing. A lot of people just dancing to mediocre music because they think they have to just leads to a mediocre experience for everyone. So like I said, if I'm not on the floor losing my shit, I am probably away from the loud noise, talking with friends and/or watching people awkwardly cluster on the floor or watching some manipulative douchebag work a slut, or I'll just leave and do something else. The other thing to consider is at some especially 'sceney' parties, most people are there just to hang out with acquaintances and mutually support each other's insecurities. (the insecurities that cause people to become sceney in the first place) I can't stand that shit. also, i can't stand the concept of 'the show' in dance music. it doesn't belong there. once i had to deejay such a 'show' for like 700 people, where i was on a stage, and i just felt like a huge doofus. That's what I can't stand about DJs at music festivals, eg DEMF. I'll be happy to see a live show on a stage, but I don't want to see a guy playing records, wtf. Also it's just harder to connect as a DJ in such environments if you're not superfamous or playing for a 'best hits' crowd like tiesto at UMF or something. /negativity

Great post. I agree with everything you said there (nice for a change, eh?) Sadly, most people don't understand this train of thought; they can't comprehend the idea of losing yourself in the music and that interconnected feeling you describe (fuck I love that feeling). I think this because some people just don't feel a strong connection to music in the first place.

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Originally posted by Domesticated Great post. I agree with everything you said there (nice for a change, eh?) Sadly, most people don't understand this train of thought; they can't comprehend the idea of losing yourself in the music and that interconnected feeling you describe (fuck I love that feeling). I think this because some people just don't feel a strong connection to music in the first place.

haha, yes - i saw that you had replied and i expected another back and forth

that's cool then, because this matters much more to me than anything else we may have disagreed with.

That was a good post, and I agree with it as well. Let's all dance together in a circle of oneness and joy. PLUR!

the only song to have ever made me feel this "interconnected" feeling with strangers at a club

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3MD...feature=related

In Germany about 2 years ago at a club in Manheim called Halle 02
Local dj was spinning a really dark set... about 3 hours into it he dropped this bomb

I swear it was like the sun dawning in the Lion King
I've never felt a gayer connection with music and everyone surrounding me in my life

was quite amazing actually

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Originally posted by Ania_xox I've never felt a gayer connection with music and everyone surrounding me in my life

A "gayer" connection? What does that even mean?

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Originally posted by nefardec maybe i can help you understand one perspective- not everyone is a gung-ho consumer of the nightclub product. personally, i don't dance unless i am MOVED to dance. If it sucks but I'm there with friends, I'd rather hang out with friends and hope it gets better. I resent the idea that you need to dance if you are at a nightclub, just because everyone else is or because you are in an environment conditions one to dance. Those are the worst parties, those parties where everyone dances because they think they should and they are a little tispy (most nightclub experiences). You end up with a lot of people awkwardly moving in tight social circles and drinking to lose their self-conscious behavior. There are always those people, of course, who just like to dance alone regardless, whether for escapist reasons, exhibitionist reasons, or health, or whatever. Personally, my take on it is if the music moves me, i won't be able to help myself from dancing. If I am in a crowd where most people can't help themselves from dancing, it feels fucking awesome. You feed off people's energy, feel interconnected, etc. There's no need to get fucked up, no need to cluster awkwardly. I prefer to be in such an environment where everybody loses their shit. That said, if I'm NOT feeling it, I don't dance. First reason is I don't feel you should give the DJ the wrong impression if you think the music sucks. If you think the music sucks, don't dance. If the DJ changes things up and you like it, show him/her you appreciate it by dancing. A lot of people just dancing to mediocre music because they think they have to just leads to a mediocre experience for everyone. So like I said, if I'm not on the floor losing my shit, I am probably away from the loud noise, talking with friends and/or watching people awkwardly cluster on the floor or watching some manipulative douchebag work a slut, or I'll just leave and do something else. The other thing to consider is at some especially 'sceney' parties, most people are there just to hang out with acquaintances and mutually support each other's insecurities. (the insecurities that cause people to become sceney in the first place) I can't stand that shit. also, i can't stand the concept of 'the show' in dance music. it doesn't belong there. once i had to deejay such a 'show' for like 700 people, where i was on a stage, and i just felt like a huge doofus. That's what I can't stand about DJs at music festivals, eg DEMF. I'll be happy to see a live show on a stage, but I don't want to see a guy playing records, wtf. Also it's just harder to connect as a DJ in such environments if you're not superfamous or playing for a 'best hits' crowd like tiesto at UMF or something. /negativity

ugh, ok?

You misunderstood me I guess (or I suppose I didn't make how I viewed the subject clear, wasn't expecting to have a novel written about my post), I agree with everything you said. I did not mean people HAVE to dance, you put everything far more succinctly than I ever could.

I think you also are assuming certain things about how I view the "nightclub product". Did I make it seem like I was some cunty idiot just lolling about to everything being played at a party? :P

I guess I should think a little more before I post.

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Originally posted by nefardec That said, if I'm NOT feeling it, I don't dance. First reason is I don't feel you should give the DJ the wrong impression if you think the music sucks. If you think the music sucks, don't dance. If the DJ changes things up and you like it, show him/her you appreciate it by dancing. A lot of people just dancing to mediocre music because they think they have to just leads to a mediocre experience for everyone.

so true.

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Originally posted by enydo ugh, ok? You misunderstood me I guess (or I suppose I didn't make how I viewed the subject clear, wasn't expecting to have a novel written about my post), I agree with everything you said. I did not mean people HAVE to dance, you put everything far more succinctly than I ever could. I think you also are assuming certain things about how I view the "nightclub product". Did I make it seem like I was some cunty idiot just lolling about to everything being played at a party? :P

no, you just said you didn't understand why people might not dance, so I gave some possible reasons coming from my own experience.

Nefardec, you make me feel like a retard.

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Originally posted by nefardec also, that was hardly a novel

... yeah I know. Chalk it up to failed attempt at humor.

I'm sure I don't look good at all, but if it's good and I'm feeling it, I'll dance my ass off. Fuck it, I don't care.

Also, nefardec is completely on point.

Blegh, I feel like an ass for some reason.

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Originally posted by nefardec no, you just said you didn't understand why people might not dance, so I gave some possible reasons coming from my own experience.

rock on

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Originally posted by Ania_xox the only song to have ever made me feel this "interconnected" feeling with strangers at a club http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3MD...feature=related In Germany about 2 years ago at a club in Manheim called Halle 02 Local dj was spinning a really dark set... about 3 hours into it he dropped this bomb I swear it was like the sun dawning in the Lion King I've never felt a gayer connection with music and everyone surrounding me in my life was quite amazing actually

That track is so phat

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Originally posted by nefardec when the music is really good and people are all letting go and feeling it, social interaction is everywhere, it's not just with your group of friends - it's a feeling of mutually shared experience, interconnectedness. you can smile at a stranger and have that stranger smile back because you really understand what they are feeling, etc. bring... down... the walls

Oh and THIS. This is my favorite thing about going out, by far.

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Originally posted by nefardec wtf?? are these guys scarfy? get a clue man.

No idea what you're trying to say, maybe you misunderstood my post...

yes

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Originally posted by nefardec When the music is really good and people are all letting go and feeling it, social interaction is everywhere, it's not just with your group of friends - it's a feeling of mutually shared experience, interconnectedness. you can smile at a stranger and have that stranger smile back because you really understand what they are feeling, etc. bring... down... the walls

+1
The smile and nod!
I love that kinda thing, makes you appreciate being human

i dance like this

^^
lol
I actually went to a hardcore/gabber/whatever party once. Some friends invited me and I believe they had no clue what kind of music awaited us. Most people were stoned as hell and indeed danced like that. I was weird yet strangely intriguing. I even got so drunk that I indeed went to dance for about 15 mins.

Of course, if I go out clubbing then it's usually because there's a DJ playing I want to see, or it's a night for a genre I enjoy, the whole point of going is so I can dance to the music I love being blasted over a massive system. No point in rocking up and just watching the DJ play with the decks.

If it's just a more generic 'hey lets go out tonight' then maybe, depending on whether I'm into the music being played. Commercial dance and most house music doesn't really do it for me, so if that's being played I'll probably stick to drinking/socializing, but if something a bit more to my taste comes on then yeah I'll get into it.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles A "gayer" connection? What does that even mean?

cock in ass... duh!

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Originally posted by WittyHandle Way to cheapen what the real experience can be all about. That's the same thing as calling equal treatment "political correctness".

Ever hear of a thing called a "joke?"

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Originally posted by Ania_xox the only song to have ever made me feel this "interconnected" feeling with strangers at a club http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3MD...feature=related In Germany about 2 years ago at a club in Manheim called Halle 02 Local dj was spinning a really dark set... about 3 hours into it he dropped this bomb I swear it was like the sun dawning in the Lion King I've never felt a gayer connection with music and everyone surrounding me in my life was quite amazing actually

haha Lola's Theme is a great track for sure.

I go out to have fun. If I'm in the mood to dance, I'll dance. If I'm really liking the music, I'll put more effort into my dancing. If I'm bored / tired / don't like the music, I won't dance.

If I'm not dancing, it's not always a reflection on the dj / club / anything specific. Maybe I'm just there for a few drinks and don't really feel like rockin' out. I've been to a lot of really good nights with really good music where I would just stand by the bar, beer in hand, and just kind of bop to the music while I talked to people. Still had a good time, but I jsut wasn't dancing.

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Originally posted by chach cock in ass... duh!

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Originally posted by Ania_xox (_(_) []----

if my cock looked like that...i'd go to a doctor

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