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Originally posted by yankeeBaby My point is, I used to be able to listen to a set or come to a club and hear sets that were good to amazing the entire way through.

When did you start clubbing again?

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Originally posted by yankeeBaby remember this? This was deffo from my old Guvy days...around the 3 min mark, the buildup just DROPS and the whole club would just BLOW THE F*CK UP....

Of COURSE I remember this. I have it on Vinyl.

Remember this:

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Originally posted by DigiNut When did you start clubbing again?

lol is that a sarcastic or non-sarcastic question?


Chris: I will check out the vid when im home

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Originally posted by Endlesswave Remember this:

pvd remix ftw.

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Originally posted by smuncky pvd remix ftw.

Damned right. Heard it live 2x. Once when he played it then again when Marco V was here a few years ago. Woooooooooo.
I liked the vid for the original though so it's why I put that.

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Originally posted by yankeeBaby lol is that a sarcastic or non-sarcastic question?

It was a question. I don't think questions can be sarcastic. It was not a rhetorical question, if that's what you mean, it was a standard type of question wherewith I intended to follow up based on the specific answer.

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Originally posted by DigiNut It was a question. I don't think questions can be sarcastic. It was not a rhetorical question, if that's what you mean, it was a standard type of question wherewith I intended to follow up based on the specific answer.

wtf

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Originally posted by love_child wtf

+1 LOL!!!



I was asking, digi, because when you said "when did I", it makes the assumption that you thought I had *stopped* clubbing, which is not really the case? slowed down due to career and age? yes. stopped? not even close

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Originally posted by yankeeBaby +1 LOL!!! I was asking, digi, because when you said "when did I", it makes the assumption that you thought I had *stopped* clubbing, which is not really the case? slowed down due to career and age? yes. stopped? not even close

I don't think he's making that assumption necessarily. I think he just wants to know b/c it has an affect on how you feel now trance music wise.

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Originally posted by Endlesswave I don't think he's making that assumption necessarily. I think he just wants to know b/c it has an affect on how you feel now trance music wise.

its no big deal I guess I just read it that way



well digi, there is your answer:
lotso clubbing in Toronto years (2000-2003), (every weekend)

lotso clubbing in NYC 2004, (every weekend)

and slowly decreasing a little tiny bit over time (until this year where I am entirely sick of the music and have decresed parties, except for techno and super-excitable trance events: (2005-2007: once a month) 2008-2009: only for really good parties

drugs

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Originally posted by Spin Laden drugs

what about them?

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Originally posted by Endlesswave Remember this:

Fuckin eh classic...PvD remix ftw, i agree.
Ahhhh if this sound was still around....

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew I think it's all about being selective and going out there and downloading sets from Dj's you never listened to before or someone you never heard of and discovering amazing tracks like that for me - Schulz is getting better and better month after month with his shows, his sets are exactly what I love about trance these days I'm also excited to be checking out more house dj's and actually going out and hearing them as well!

I agree with the first part. Markus used to be really good at having prog and trance meet, very dreamy and well versed. Now he is not even trance anymore, he is pure prog.

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Originally posted by pete242 I agree with the first part. Markus used to be really good at having prog and trance meet, very dreamy and well versed. Now he is not even trance anymore, he is pure prog.

prog trance is good

I still believe Shaya is at fault for the state of trance...him and his gabber

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Originally posted by ***** endless: are you saying that you hate djs making half assed attempts & butchering stuff or ou hate them using elements from other genres period

The half assed attempts and butchering stuff. A lot of the time it's when they combine elements of other genres but isn't limited to this, there are shitty attempts with music from single genres all the time...

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Originally posted by Endlesswave The half assed attempts and butchering stuff.

So basically you like the stuff that sounds good to you. is that fair to say?

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Originally posted by Endlesswave A lot of the time it's when they combine elements of other genres but isn't limited to this, there are shitty attempts with music from single genres all the time...

I dont understand what you mean by this sorry

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Originally posted by ***** So basically you like the stuff that sounds good to you. is that fair to say? I dont understand what you mean by this sorry

Sure what sounds good to me sounds good to me but like all art there is SOME objectivity yes? There are standards somewhat.


As for what I was trying to say w the second statement, my feeling is that it's all about 2 things, production value + dj capabiltity in terms of creating FLOW in a set.

What irks me about production value with trance in the past few years is that it's become so cookie cutter a monkey on a midi keyboard and some synths can create better BS. The recent big name djs (shall remain nameless) have become slack and give NO effort to produce quality like they have in the past in the same quantity that they have previously. They create generic crap that is just so bad...they use melodies that don't have the same meaning to me as they have had in the past, they're not catchy at all, I don't get the same feeling as I had previously.

What's even worse is when the use elements in other genres in the worst way...using those same cookie cutter non emotional elements (Taking parts of a song that have elements of another genre and combine with trance for example and expect it to be amazing...it DOESN'T work like that...)


As for set flow, dj capability etc, if there is good production and a dj knows how to combine this in what they are doing, it makes me love the music. Danny Howells comes to mind first...there are melodies in his sets...the set also flows amazing from start to finish. As for trance djs, there USED to be that kind of flow and production value combined in the sets/nights out but have since been lost in favour of the cookie cutter BS I mentioned earier...


If I'm somehow unclear let me know...it's 4:30am and I'm half passed out/have a few beers in me...

^^^actually, thats the best thing written in this whole thread and I agree with you completely!!






Here is something positive: ROXY NYC might be re-opening!!!


http://gawker.com/5337004/clubland-is-out-of-ideas


I know a lot of Torontonians loved the ROXY as a venue, and so do ALL of the NY'ers that I know of!! It might not change "trance" but it has a possibility of bringing back some sort of vibe to the NYC scene, that has been terribly lacking since the closing of Twilo/Arc/Crobar/ROXY.

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Originally posted by Endlesswave

You made it much clearer now.

I do agree that djs think that they can just mix different genres of music & something amazing will happen but they lack the knowledge of 1 or all the genres they try to use. You cant just take a trance song & put it in a different format & expect it to be good (it happens sometimes but not always) like you said there needs to be some feeling emotion to it.

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Originally posted by yankeeBaby I was asking, digi, because when you said "when did I", it makes the assumption that you thought I had *stopped* clubbing, which is not really the case? slowed down due to career and age? yes. stopped? not even close

I didn't realize that the question "when did you start" implies that one has stopped.

Anyway, all arguments about quality aside (and there are many of them), I think this is more about you than the music. Everybody sets the bar low in the beginning because they don't know what to expect. Back then we didn't know Paul Oakenfold from Paul van Dyk. As you attend more parties, the bar gets raised higher, and things that would have been exciting or at least interesting back then don't mean much anymore.

You should be happy that you clocked in 5 years of frequent partying without getting tired. Most people I know (including me) slowed down after 2 or 3 years (none of us have "stopped"). Quality or not, people change, they grow up and take off the rose-tinted glasses.

I am just curious, when you (people) talk about trance and the sound of trance being the same and boring; who exactly are you listening to? i mean the Djs and producers. Whom are you listening to and what exactly are you considering trance now a days ?

As far as i am concerned, Trance is sounding better than ever.

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Originally posted by TranceGrooves I am just curious, when you (people) talk about trance and the sound of trance being the same and boring; who exactly are you listening to? i mean the Djs and producers. Whom are you listening to and what exactly are you considering trance now a days ? As far as i am concerned, Trance is sounding better than ever.

Well partly for me that's my fault b/c I haven't made efforts to get into where there is GOOD trance. Should go more underground for variety in the music itself.

I think the state of trance is improving with tracks like this:

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