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Originally posted by Lira I wouldn't be surprised if the first "alien" ever found turned out to be bacteria.

I thought they had already found bacteria in Mars?

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH No it wouldn't. I agree that there probably is life out there right now but are they advanced as us, or more? Very small chance of that. It's hard to come by conditions that are ripe for life like on Earth. Then there's the chances that they developed at the same time as us and are equally intelligent as us.

Very small ? i wouldn't say that. Life on earth is pretty young compared to the age of the universe. With such a large number of stars and solar systems there are bound to be planets able to support life in many of them. Hell, even our solar system had 2 planets able to support it (Mars being the second one).
Chances are there are less intelligent and more intelligent life forms out there.

Isn't the sun and the solar systems the product of a previous star's supernova or such? So we're not even first generation

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Originally posted by Sunsnail Isn't the sun and the solar systems the product of a previous star's supernova or such? So we're not even first generation

Kind of, yeah.

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Originally posted by Acton Kind of, yeah.

neat

i wonder if other life forms listen to trance

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Originally posted by jupiterone i wonder if other life forms listen to trance

not if they are more intelligent then us

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Originally posted by stren not if they are more intelligent then us

What about the Prawns? They must love trance.

Flower of Life

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Originally posted by Sunsnail Isn't the sun and the solar systems the product of a previous star's supernova or such? So we're not even first generation

Essentially yes, a supernova shock wave pushed enough nebulous material together to form our solar system.

I would love to observe myself in the realm of the sub-atomic.

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Originally posted by iTranscendence a supernova shock wave pushed enough nebulous material together to form our solar system.

No.

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Originally posted by Acton No.

Pudding.

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Originally posted by Acton No.

Yes, it was on NGC not even a week ago, kthnx.

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Originally posted by iTranscendence Yes, it was on NGC not even a week ago, kthnx.

Well what you said is wrong.

Supernova explosions would scatter material away from where it was formed, and then GRAVITY would pull the material together, not a "supernova shock wave".

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Originally posted by Acton Well what you said is wrong. Supernova explosions would scatter material away from where it was formed, and then GRAVITY would pull the material together, not a "supernova shock wave".

May be you are misunderstanding what I said. There was already nebulous material at a great distance from the supernova and the blast wave pushed the material close enough together to jump start our sun. Please don't argue semantics with me, if you don't believe me I don't really give a shit.

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Originally posted by iTranscendence May be you are misunderstanding what I said. There was already nebulous material at a great distance from the supernova and the blast wave pushed the material close enough together to jump start our sun. Please don't argue semantics with me, if you don't believe me I don't really give a shit.

all this sounds fascinating.. I always wanted to know how do they actually figure out how wide and far away planets or stars are with just a telescope?
wouldnt you lose depth perception when your looking at something so far away. what is the frame of reference?

Im not very knowledged in this subject so maybe someone could explain it in basic terms.

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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit all this sounds fascinating.. I always wanted to know how do they actually figure out how wide and far away planets or stars are with just a telescope? wouldnt you lose depth perception when your looking at something so far away. what is the frame of reference? Im not very knowledged in this subject so maybe someone could explain it in basic terms.

Red shift and quasars.

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Originally posted by Domesticated What, so you can play Playstation, drink beer and watch hockey on a spaceship as it hurtles towards some distant planet? I can just see it now; your girlfriend at the window and you saying "I'll come and look later..." Also, I think this short story is highly relevant to this thread, and everyone should read it. It just proves why Isaac Asimov is one of the greatest science-fiction writers ever. http://www.multivax.com/last_question.html

cool read. any more suggestions?

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Originally posted by iTranscendence May be you are misunderstanding what I said. There was already nebulous material at a great distance from the supernova and the blast wave pushed the material close enough together to jump start our sun. Please don't argue semantics with me, if you don't believe me I don't really give a shit.

Oh but I will argue the semantics with you.

Now you have put it like that, yeah supernova blasts could push material closer together. But still, gravity is responsible for the creation of the sun and solar system. If anything, the blast would have only helped initial conditions.

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Originally posted by Acton Oh but I will argue the semantics with you. Now you have put it like that, yeah supernova blasts could push material closer together. But still, gravity is responsible for the creation of the sun and solar system. If anything, the blast would have only helped initial conditions.

That's exactly what I meant I just didn't elaborate on it. I figure e=mc� doesn't really need explaning, but thank you for clarifying it for anyone who just tuned in from american idol.

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Originally posted by noikeee I thought they had already found bacteria in Mars?

Negative.

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Originally posted by Fledz Negative.

Yes, actually, they have.

It's just a world-government conspiracy covering it all up, mostly due to pressure from the Vatican.

You're so naive.

Well I am a 16 year old ginger from NZ.

amazing - thanks for that.

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