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Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Sep-18-2009 05:03:

quote:
Originally posted by meriter
Also there's nothing like the interface of a hardware synthesizer.

Indeed, I should know since I own a Moog LOL.


Posted by wrzonance on Sep-18-2009 05:04:

I've already given up.

Join the club.

/me goes and takes his happy pills...


Posted by Joss Weatherby on Sep-18-2009 05:07:

Not really cause I honestly do not spend enough time doing it.

I am going to sound cocky here, and I don't care, but when I release a song I sit down, barf it out, and don't give a fuck half the time about 90% of the stuff in it. Its ambient, so it kinda can work that way, but oh well. So no, I spend way more time doing way way way more unproductive things, like watching porn and playing video games or taking naps.

So all I am going to say is JBJ, do whatever, its cool, you know, do what you feel like. You were fucking good though. My only advice is do not care as much.

People like the guy above me, who I have known for years in real life, try too hard, its not that it is a bad thing, but its that they try so hard that it just frustrates them and makes them angry.

Apathy is fucking sweet.


Posted by wrzonance on Sep-18-2009 05:08:

Oh fuck you Clifford.

But you're right. As usual. Sort of.

But still... fuck you.


Posted by Joss Weatherby on Sep-18-2009 05:10:

quote:
Originally posted by wrzonance
Oh fuck you Clifford.

But you're right. As usual. Sort of.

But still... fuck you.


Dude, seriously, I know its your nature but man you just give a fuck too much sometimes. You are fucking good at what you do naturally, the fact that you obsess over it just leads you to get all dysfunctional. I am not saying that you should fucking slack off like I do, you cant, wife, kid, etc. But ffs you are 23 and going way too fast. You are going to have a fucking heart attack at 30 the rate you are going man.

Just sayin I'm saying. Nah mean.


Posted by DJ Robby Rox on Sep-18-2009 05:11:

quote:
Originally posted by EgosXII
you are constantly posting threads sayig you're thinking of quitting and how annoying you find it because you can never make good songs...


Quote **ONE** thread where I said I was "thinking of quitting".


Theres a HUGE DIFFERENCE between not being able to install FL and quitting.

At one point I recall contemplating the idea of switching to Live, but at no point did I ever entertain the idea of quitting. I DO get mad with the quality of my music a lot, but I also believe that discontent serves a larger purpose, which is to evolve through the ropes quicker then the avg person.

I'm not trying to start shit theres just a big difference is what I'm saying.


Posted by Stylz on Sep-18-2009 05:13:

Take a bunch of E, go to a rave/EDM club. Feel refreshed. Rinse and repeat. Or just remember why you fell in love with the music.


Posted by Joss Weatherby on Sep-18-2009 05:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Stylz
Take a bunch of E, go to a rave/EDM club. Feel refreshed. Rinse and repeat. Or just remember why you fell in love with the music.


Lame. If you want him to get inspired to keep making any form of electronic music, the last thing you want to tell him to do is go listen to anything new.


Posted by Stylz on Sep-18-2009 05:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Lame. If you want him to get inspired to keep making any form of electronic music, the last thing you want to tell him to do is go listen to anything new.
LOL. OK.


Posted by mfitterer1 on Sep-18-2009 05:17:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Success for me is making tunes that I think can stand alongside my personal favorites, regardless of whether anyone wants to sign them or whatever. The source of my despair is still being nowhere near that, at least in my own mind.



The challenge of meeting that level of production doesn't keep you fresh and inspired on the daily?


Posted by mfitterer1 on Sep-18-2009 05:18:

quote:
Originally posted by meriter
your personal favorites aren't made with Live 8 man


LOLOLOL ignorance. What are they made on bro? Humor me LOL!


Posted by mfitterer1 on Sep-18-2009 05:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Kismet7
Give me raw examples of "arrogance", or dig yourself back into your hole, because everything i've read from you could be wrapped in toilet paper, and you sound a bit disgruntled i've achieved something perhaps out of your reach?

And you have a rather ignorant outlook about success, I cant help you there.


I don't really care what you think and lol at achieved something out of my reach

I just think you talking about success like you're been producing and releasing tracks for years comes off as twatish. That's all.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Sep-18-2009 05:20:

quote:
Originally posted by mfitterer1
The challenge of meeting that level of production doesn't keep you fresh and inspired on the daily?

I enjoy trying to meet the challenge right up until the moment I do a close comparison between my own finished tunes and my favorite tunes. Then it seems kinda pointless because I think I will never reach that level.


Posted by mfitterer1 on Sep-18-2009 05:20:

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
I couldn't possibly. It's in my blood.. it's a large part of how I define myself. If I'm not working on music, learning, having fun, I'm not living. It's as simple as that.


This. For me; it's my true love, however corny it sounds ha. It's one of the reasons I hit brick walls in relationships, i'm very up front with the fact that nothing & no one will ever replace music as the number 1.


Posted by mfitterer1 on Sep-18-2009 05:22:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
I enjoy trying to meet the challenge right up until the moment I do a close comparison between my own finished tunes and my favorite tunes. Then it seems kinda pointless because I think I will never reach that level.


That's the best part imo; seeing where they stack up and then tweaking what doesn't meet expectation!


Posted by meriter on Sep-18-2009 05:23:

quote:
Originally posted by mfitterer1
LOLOLOL ignorance. What are they made on bro? Humor me LOL!


I'm just saying I'm pretty sure Sasha didn't throw together Airdrawdagger with Ableton.


Posted by Kismet7 on Sep-18-2009 05:24:

quote:
Originally posted by meriter
You don't need a bunch of expensive equipment to "make good music" but if you want your shit to sound like Deadmau8 or whatever you're going to need more than a pirated copy of Reason. Right tools for the right job. No one ever said making music was easy and it's certainly not cheap. If you drop $200 on a drum kit guess what it's going to sound like a $200 drum kit no matter how well you play it, and that's going to kill your inspiration. Ask guitar players if they like playing shitty guitars. Try being a DJ and spinning your awesome set on Gemini belt-driven XL100's. Not saying you should drop a ton of money on equipment but if you want a professional sound a good place to start is with professional tools. In the mean time all you can do is make the best of what you have and work around that. Sampling is a good way to get quality source sounds if your software/hardware isn't cutting it. By the way not all hardware is fundamentally better obviously. You get what you pay for. I've got a yamaha synth that was about $700 in 2000 and it more or less sounds like ass except for a few patches and things which is basically all I use it for at this point.

Also there's nothing like the interface of a hardware synthesizer. I probably don't give FL, Live, Reason ect enough credit and that's obviously personal bias. I could never work with that shit. I need knobs and buttons and LCD menus but that's just what I was raised on.


+1 well said.

i'd add that its good to start off on shit equipment, build your craft a bit, try to get that C level equipment sounding as good as possible, and then only better things will come out of you when you get some proper equipment. Having great equipment from the start is a really nice shortcut though, but you gotta extra hard to build your craft.


Posted by Kismet7 on Sep-18-2009 05:28:

quote:
Originally posted by mfitterer1
I don't really care what you think and lol at achieved something out of my reach

I just think you talking about success like you're been producing and releasing tracks for years comes off as twatish. That's all.


Ok, yah I'd figured you'd take the little kid route.
And why would'nt I share my success with a forum i've been a part of? I should have waited till you magically found my music on your own? Especially after folks asking me "I wanna hear your music", well now you can, so i'm sharing my story.

And where is your evidence to support your claims? I mean if it was worth pointing, there must be a ton of it.


Posted by orTof�nChiLd on Sep-18-2009 05:38:

I'll never throw in the towel. One thing i'd like to add is that i never feel like quiting until today. The more sounds I have in a project the more i want trash it and give it up and start new. Basically the more I have the more frustration I get.


Posted by wrzonance on Sep-18-2009 05:40:

I fucking hate Rihanna


Posted by Nightshift on Sep-18-2009 05:44:

quote:
Originally posted by meriter
Who the hell is BT?


LOLWUT? I'm sorry but I have just seemed to lose all seriousness in your posts.


Posted by Nightshift on Sep-18-2009 05:48:

quote:
Originally posted by meriter
your personal favorites aren't made with Live 8 man


LOL more fail!


Posted by meriter on Sep-18-2009 05:50:

dude relax


Posted by mfitterer1 on Sep-18-2009 07:19:

quote:
Originally posted by meriter
I'm just saying I'm pretty sure Sasha didn't throw together Airdrawdagger with Ableton.


Wtf does that have to do with the price of rice in china? There are many amazing; even legendary productions that have been made on ableton et all and likewise for trakcs made with vsts.

It's not the means that accomplish the product lololol

Pull your head out...


Posted by mfitterer1 on Sep-18-2009 07:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Kismet7
Ok, yah I'd figured you'd take the little kid route.
And why would'nt I share my success with a forum i've been a part of? I should have waited till you magically found my music on your own? Especially after folks asking me "I wanna hear your music", well now you can, so i'm sharing my story.

And where is your evidence to support your claims? I mean if it was worth pointing, there must be a ton of it.


I didn't say there was anything wrong with sharing your success. I even said I was going to give you a congrats; a first release is a big accomplishment especially after you said you've been at it for years.

What I did say is that you have no right to make a comment like you did to MJBJ CLAIMING success off of one release. It was like you were using that release as validation for your point; which we all know is mute because a lot of shit gets released (not saying your productions were/are shit)

Evidence to support what claims in particular?


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