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following my post, the only reason why nirvana is considered the one "who started the craze" is because of kurt cobain's dramatic behavior on stage as well as personal issues he would share with the world. on top of that, he married another crazy one, courtney love.

ps: i don't wanna start another pointless discussion with u and ur buddies so please be aware that this only and only my opinion.

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Originally posted by DJ_Lord following my post, the only reason why nirvana is considered the one "who started the craze" is because of kurt cobain's dramatic behavior on stage as well as personal issues he would share with the world. on top of that, he married another crazy one, courtney love. ps: i don't wanna start another pointless discussion with u and ur buddies so please be aware that this only and only my opinion.

once again "the only reaso...blah blah blah" may be right but at the end of the day your responses are just making my argument stronger. We are not arguing the "why", but the "what" aka facts.

this is like arguing with slylee lol. Reason is more than a production tool.

use it.

if you didn't want to be pointless you would not hit reply.

ps headshot boom.

i just proposed facts and my reasoning.

you were only capable of replying to my last line?...i'm disappointed.

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Originally posted by jupiterone they remind me of freshman year highschool listening to homegrown, finch, taking back sunday and glassjaw. no hate just didn't think it'd be brought up

Haha...true. Finch were awesome back then

TBS is actually here later this month...wish they still played like "Tell All Your Friends."

Have you heard recent (post 2005) Brand New? They've totally changed their style...

if you see jordan was a good song! and something corporate.

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Originally posted by DJ_Lord i just proposed facts and my reasoning. you were only capable of replying to my last line?...i'm disappointed.

Tut tut tut... you're going about this all wrong. What you should have done was point out the hypocrisy of him bashing Kings Of Leon for being successful on a ripped-off sound and yet praising Nirvana for taking The Pixies' sound and going huge with it.

Fuckin' amateurs in here.

ahhh i might have praised nirvana (not sure do not feel like re reading all of this thread), but the major statement that i made is that they were the flagship band of grunge.

i am not using wiki as an argument here, but just because i am lazy.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grunge_music


nirvana mentioned first even if "ten" mentionned 2 words later

i saw eddie vedder unplugged by himself this year. (no band, back up, or anything). we left after the 3rd song.

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Originally posted by lenazi proof that i will go see anything. my gf just texted me saying that we have to go to tiesto october 2nd because there is a guest chef cooking at the venue that night.

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Originally posted by lenazi ahhh i might have praised nirvana (not sure do not feel like re reading all of this thread), but the major statement that i made is that they were the flagship band of grunge.

Not Nirvana specifically but Dave Grohl, and the reason you're arguing is because you're trying to say Grohl is different to Kings Of Leon because he pioneered something instead of copying it.

When really, Grohl was merely the second drummer in a band who took an existing sound and sold a lot of records, thus making it more popular than it had been previously. The difference between Nirvana and Kings Of Leon is not so much that Nirvana were more original, but that more people thought Nirvana were original.

A pretty shitty justification if you ask me.

maybe my arguing is not up to snuff, but grohl does posses "bowiesque" qualities, from going to second drummer, to front man, to producer, to successful a&r.

not many have that drive and ability to reach success while not being a 1 dimensional or "one trick pony" artist if you will.

you can shoot down my flaws in arguing as i am not a lawyer by any means, but i know the man has done more in music than many "bigger" than him.

not more than bowie though

what happened to the bass player from nirvana? i think he served me coffee at starbucks this morning.

There's a difference between being talented and being original. The problem with the Kings Of Leon is not that they're less original than the Foo Fighters or whoever else they sound like. The problem is they write crappier songs.

if you check their album they did not write all of it. sure it is normal in this day and age, but the kings of leon success is as manufactured as the backstreet boys.

they just happened to do a few good indie songs before some record executive decided to give them an extra push.

and by extra push i hope you know i mean $$$.

payola.

same goes for nirvana though

People put way too much emphasis, especially on TA, on shit having to sound original. If it sounds original but it's a load of gash, what's the point? Something can sound just like other records, but if it's made for the right reasons in the right way it can still be a great song.

As The KLF put it:

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So why don�t all songs sound the same? Why are some artists great, write dozens of classics that move you to tears, say it like it�s never been said before, make you laugh, dance, blow your mind, fall in love, take to the streets and riot? Well, it�s because although the chords, notes, harmonies, beats and words have all been used before their own soul shines through; their personality demands attention. This doesn�t just come via the great vocalist or virtuoso instrumentalist. The Techno sound of Detroit, the most totally linear programmed music ever, lacking any human musicianship in its execution reeks of sweat, sex and desire. The creators of that music just press a few buttons and out comes - a million years of pain and lust.

the point of the thread was not exactly that they had to sound different, but that they were among the worst shows that i have ever seen.

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Originally posted by lenazi the point of the thread was not exactly that they had to sound different, but that they were among the worst shows that i have ever seen.

I haven't seen them live, but I wouldn't really disagree: I think they make some of the most soulless, anonymous, wallpaper rock around, to the extent I find it difficult to muster up any hatred for such a dull band.

My point is you're inviting a messy argument by attacking them for being generic. They're a fucking stadium rock band, you may as well attack techno for being too repetitive.

techno is not repetive because i have a flanger in atomix dj.

the hatred was wasting 3 hours of my life and making a drunk thread.

the ******s voice makes me wanna kill a puppy


no, seriously I haven't heard a voice that ear grating in a while.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Is it sad that I have no idea who this band is and as far as I know have never heard any songs by them?

So, what else is new?

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Originally posted by DJ_Lord and foo fighters is pretty much like stone temple pilots... please dude. give me a break. welcome to globalized marketing. uniqueness and originality is very subjective these days. btw, stone temple pilots is pretty much like pearl jam and pearl jam is pretty much like temple of the dog, etc.

You, sir, are an idiot.

Anybody remember the movie "singles" how cool was that soudntrack??? many different amazing bands that are probably unknown to the world . All coming out from that great scene.

Also

Soundgarden Fan here , the other day I gave SUPERUNKNOWn a go and got hooked on it for about 2 weeks. Those guys where fucking great .

and that album is timeless

I don't know, Nazi Boy...I haven't seen them live so can't comment on that, but I listen to "Use Somebody" and hear the opposite of uninspired music

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Originally posted by woscar's alt So, what else is new? You, sir, are an idiot.

why do u and other people on this board feel that by insulting people you will get your point across? your insecurity level is way too high man, get laid or something or did ur dad beat u up when he came home drunk every night? it's ok man, spit it out...we're all here for u, do u want a hug? yes? don't worry, it;s gonna be ok.

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Originally posted by DJ_Lord your insecurity level is way too high man,

Irony.

Honestly dude, so some guy on the internet called you an idiot. Big deal. No need to come back slingin 10x more insults.

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