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Originally posted by Arbiter You know, the thing about grand evil schemes that's hard to appreciate sometimes is how much waiting is involved. It's not all creeping around in the dark dressed up like a ninja.

hmmm, that's a good point. just remember though, if the scheme comes to fruition after 5pm i'll probably be laughing my arse off and stuffing my face with cheerios.

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Originally posted by Arbiter I've matured a little bit. Now, instead of relying on brinksmanship and intimidation to overcome the will of my adversaries, I rely on inveiglement and manipulation to ensure that they do my bidding while believing they are doing their own.

You're a delinquent law graduate who worked for a secret government department, fought in martial arts competitions and somehow ended up on a trance forum, all of which you frequently 'let slip'.

You really should change your username to 'showbag'.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN hmmm, that's a good point. just remember though, if the scheme comes to fruition after 5pm i'll probably be laughing my arse off and stuffing my face with cheerios.

You know the difference between you and BTG?

He watches hockey instead of playing computer games. Otherwise, you're essentially the same.

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Originally posted by Slylee well i'm disturbed that we can't all just agree that this lawsuit is just plain fucking retarded and HORRIBLE parenting on behalf of the parents of these 15/16 year old girls pretending to be strippers outside of school.

Yeh basically, no one actually knows for certain how much of a slut these girls are though. Maybe they are just somewhat sexually active and find it highly amusing to put pictures of them sucking phallus shaped lollipops on their myspace? I mean there's a difference between occasionally has a boyfriend and occasionally gets drunk and fucks at parties and someone who's fucked the entire football team.

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Originally posted by Slylee there's a code of conduct and they violated it and that's what they get for being stupid little girls. but nooo....they are going to be rewarded instead and the school officials will be made fools of and have to suffer a consequence. the very same people whose lives are dedicated to giving your future children a goddamn fucking free education.

Since when do school code of conduct's have anything to do with what you put on your myspace.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN i dont think schools should have any right to punish students for their activities outside of school. so yeah, were this my daughter i would support the lawsuit.

I agree with basically everything pkc has said.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN perhaps, but im not all that well-versed on the statutes of what constitutes child porn, given that licking a lollipop, however suggestively, doesn't quality as far as i am aware. i'll rephrase them; they have the right to express their sexuality as much as anyone as long as it is within the bounds of the law.

Definitely. If the school want to be dicks and tell the parents then they sure can, but they have no right to dictate how appropriate someone's myspace is.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN yeah, but is your judgement full of morality-led hypocritical bollocks? are you about to attack these children for doing something relatively harmless and stupid, because it goes against your own "strict" moral code, and then ask members of TA to send you photos of their cock?

Damn right, damn feminists.

They are allowed to be as slutty as they want, so long as it isn't causing harm to anyone. Perhaps the education system should attempt to help better them by promoting sex education so they don't get pregnant, and the parents should do a better job but it isn't as such morally or intellectually objectable like ania makes it out to be.

Just because a girl is a slut doesn't mean she's doing woman kind a disgrace and setting them back (like maybe a polygamist might be).

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN i dont concern myself with judging others over such meaningless issues. and i certainly don't empathise with somebody over their slutty daughter. im a guy ffs, slutty daughters are awesome. my sister was photographed in ralph magazine kissing another chick and all i said was more power to her. for somebody that supposedly studied feminism you're an incredible bigot.

I would do the same thing.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN honestly, im much more concerned by teachers that troll social networking sites looking for their students.

Trawl?

but yeh, absolutely. School shouldn't be looking at their myspaces.

p.s. I love ta

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN you forget i have a job, shit-for-brains.

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Originally posted by Domesticated You're a delinquent law graduate who worked for a secret government department, fought in martial arts competitions and somehow ended up on a trance forum, all of which you frequently 'let slip'. You really should change your username to 'showbag'.

*minion to the rescue!*

Lol, if he�s so �showbag� you would�ve gotten more of that information correct

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Originally posted by Domesticated You know the difference between you and BTG? He watches hockey instead of playing computer games. Otherwise, you're essentially the same.

you forget i have a job, shit-for-brains.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN *minion to the rescue!* Lol, if he�s so �showbag� you would�ve gotten more of that information correct

Enlighten me.

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Originally posted by Domesticated Enlighten me.

he's not a law graduate. he'd be lucky to be halfway thru law school.

he never said he worked for a "secret government department". he said that he did work for the government he's not allowed to talk about. off the top of my head i could name 3 australian agencies that could be described that way, none of which are secret.

so ner

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Originally posted by Domesticated You're a delinquent law graduate who worked for a secret government department, fought in martial arts competitions and somehow ended up on a trance forum, all of which you frequently 'let slip'. You really should change your username to 'showbag'.

Everything you say is true. Especially the mistakes and the lies. You forgot to mention that I have a grand evil scheme, however. Together we hide the truth in plain sight, and we hide it well.

I don't think I'll be changing my username--I have had it for over seven years while 'letting slip' very little about myself here--but 'showbag' might make an appropriate custom status. But because it's a choice of such enormous import, I'll have to give the matter further consideration. If you have strong views on the matter, feel free to provide supporting information that might be helpful.

In any event, thank you for your feedback. It's very useful. If things continue to go so well, perhaps in the future I'll find it appropriate 'let slip' even more.

I thought Trancer-X was just paranoid but maybe pkc really is a TA stalker...

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN he never said he worked for a "secret government department". he said that he did work for the government he's not allowed to talk about. off the top of my head i could name 3 australian agencies that could be described that way, none of which are secret.

Non-disclosure agreements are funny things, too. Do they have those in Australia?

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Originally posted by Arbiter I thought Trancer-X was just paranoid but maybe pkc really is a TA stalker...

well, if you're really that slow to have not picked up on this before then perhaps you should go warn renegade, moral & occrider. perhaps they're a little slow too.

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Originally posted by Arbiter I don't think I'll be changing my username--I have had it for over seven years while 'letting slip' very little about myself here

My point precisely; that you're overtly conscious of disclosing anything about yourself. Someone who had reason to remain as such would not parade it.

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Originally posted by Domesticated My point precisely; that you're overtly conscious of disclosing anything about yourself. Someone who had reason to remain as such would not parade it.

but i would put you in the same category as arbiter in regards to disclosure, but i still know you're going on holiday overseas soon, have red hair and enjoy sexually assaulting family members. its not like any of us would have anything to talk about without some kind disclosure.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN but i would put you in the same category as arbiter in regards to disclosure, but i still know you're going on holiday overseas soon, have red hair and enjoy sexually assaulting family members. its not like any of us would have anything to talk about without some kind disclosure.

I'm not denying that we all have something to disclose. However, those who truly want to be secretive about themselves don't go around telling everyone.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN its not like any of us would have anything to talk about without some kind disclosure.

Even so, I think Domesticated makes a fair point. Superficially, it seems unlikely that someone who genuinely wanted to preserve their privacy would so willingly draw to attention his or her own secretiveness.

And there is certainly some truth to an inference that one might draw: that I do not have as great an interest in my own privacy as I profess. But Domesticated is only looking at single variable in a more complex equation: if it were merely a question whether or not I wanted to conceal a particular piece of information about myself, my conduct here might be quite different.

It now occurs to me that if I'm going to be acknowledging my grand evil scheme, I should probably change my signature.

I can't understand how the school has any right to punish these girls for something they did outside of school, and posted on a site entirely unrelated to the school?

If the school wanted to contact their parents and make them aware of it, fine. But to punish them? Sorry, but as much as parents seem to be dropping the ball on the whole parenting thing, that doesn't give anyone else the right to pick that ball up.

I can imagine the school was in a tough situation - they are 'supposed' to show their students a good example; what is and isn't acceptable. If they didn't act against these girls in some way, it could have been perceived as the school accepting it. At the same time, it is taking it a little too far to be punishing these girls for something they did on their own time.

As for whether it was 'right' or 'wrong'... I couldn't really give a shit about what women want to do RE: their sexuality. They want to sexualize themselves and try and get attention that way, power to them.

My issue lies in the age of these girls and the fact that they likely don't understand the potential consequences of their actions. Yes, they have the right to be sexual, but are they old enough, or wise enough to realize that not everyone approves of this? That future employers may discover this and not hire them as a result? That their photos can easily become public and they could gain a lot of unwanted attention? Etc.etc.

I don't think most foolish 15/16 year old kids understand the possible outcomes of a lot of their dumbass choices. Putting yourself out there for the entire world to possibly see, and in an image that is not necessarily flattering and potentially damaging to both your character and safety, is a risk that should only be made by someone that understands these possibilities.

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Originally posted by Arbiter Even so, I think Domesticated makes a fair point. Superficially, it seems unlikely that someone who genuinely wanted to preserve their privacy would so willingly draw to attention his or her own secretiveness. And there is certainly some truth to an inference that one might draw: that I do not have as great an interest in my own privacy as I profess. But Domesticated is only looking at single variable in a more complex equation: if it were merely a question whether or not I wanted to conceal a particular piece of information about myself, my conduct here might be quite different.

i dunno man. admitting "im a secretive person" after 7 years of making that fact fairly fucking obvious by not talking about yourself, and then answering a few questions that may or may not relate to said secretiveness, doesn't even make it onto my arbiter fanclub blog.

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Originally posted by Domesticated I'm not denying that we all have something to disclose. However, those who truly want to be secretive about themselves don't go around telling everyone.

lol yeah, i get what you were saying. i guess im not sure the odd statement of information that arbiter bleeds from a stone really counts as "going around telling everyone", the public nature of forums aside.

i wouldnt mind knowing more about you too to be honest, and if you tell me you're "secretive" i promise i won't take it as an indication that you're not really

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol yeah, i get what you were saying. i guess im not sure the odd statement of information that arbiter bleeds from a stone really counts as "going around telling everyone", the public nature of forums aside. i wouldnt mind knowing more about you too to be honest, and if you tell me you're "secretive" i promise i won't take it as an indication that you're not really

I'm wearing a pink polo shirt but the collar is not popped. What else would you like to know?

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Originally posted by Domesticated I'm wearing a pink polo shirt but the collar is not popped. What else would you like to know?

damn, i was totally gonna ask you what you were wearing. score!

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Originally posted by Domesticated I'm wearing a pink polo shirt but the collar is not popped. What else would you like to know?

Is that all you are wearing?

i just don't see what the problem is about a school wanting students who play on sports teams and REPRESENT said school (outside of school mind you, when they go on away game trips) to abide by a code of conduct whether they are in school or out of school. most extra cirricular activities at schools have A LOT of activiites outside of the school and school hours.

to me, it's no different than girl scouts or something like that. if you want to be a part of it and be chosen to represent that group/school/company, act like a mature respectable teenager. if you don't, you're off the team. this shit happens all the time. guys getting kicked off the football team because they were caught drinking at parties or even got in trouble w/ the law outside of school. the school has a right to pick who gets to represent them and who doesn't. sucking dick shaped lollipops with dollar bills hanging out of your underwear on myspace is more like representing the local strip club. they didn't kick the girls out of school for good, they just can't play sports and had to publicly apologize to their coaches for letting them down (which is exactly what they did).

what's so hard to understand about that? lol

I just found it hilarious that the complaint actually lists COUNSELLING SESSIONS as a criterium for lessening the girls' punishment! Boy, I can just picture how those sessions would go down:

"Sucking on lollipops like that is wrong, mmkay? This is not a part of a healthy, wholesome sexual relationship between two married people. Now watch this video."

*cue PSA-video with tv movie-music and voiceovers about the "dangers" of pre-marital sex*

^

Yeah, something along those lines.

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Originally posted by Demoted You're asking how do girls have time to take stupid compromising pictures of themselves when you somehow find time to phonesex internet plebs. You see now?

Not really.
Sometimes when two people are dating and they are not together physically, they talk on the phone to feel closer to eachother. Then sometimes they get horny. It's not quite the sexual crisis situation you imagine.

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