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Posted by Hypersky on Nov-10-2009 15:36:

Don't they teach this in Disc Jockey 101 ?


Posted by Randy S on Nov-10-2009 17:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Minaya
Exactly.

On a side note Randy I look forward to opening for you and Infected Mushroom on the 25th. I've got your Porterhouse mix on rotation and can tell it's going to be a good night.


Looking forward to it as well Mr. Minaya.


Posted by bscarbro on Nov-10-2009 17:59:

quote:
Originally posted by omega1n
I think Dada Life did a horrible job opening for Tiesto last night. Way too hard of electro house.


Dada Life shouldn't be opening for anyone. Period! His whole style is way to intense for an opener.


Posted by djjoshuaallen on Nov-10-2009 18:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Victor Dinaire
lol he was one of a kind


this is true. and yes he is still alive. Ive had dinner with him recently. He is trying to stay out of the party scene for various reasons, but is actually looking to do a party for the big israeli holiday in february I think


Posted by djjoshuaallen on Nov-10-2009 18:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Opening is more fun than playing peak time imo, and almost always much more difficult.


This is so true. Especially in trance clubs, its pretty easy to drop the huge trance tracks one right after another peak time. Opening proper is much more difficult. And when ur done u get to party!


Posted by Nerologic on Nov-10-2009 18:58:

quote:
Originally posted by omega1n
I think Dada Life did a horrible job opening for Tiesto last night. Way too hard of electro house.


Who cares, they were opening for Tiesto LOL

They prolly did it on purpose


Posted by mar46017 on Nov-11-2009 07:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Nerologic
Who cares, they were opening for Tiesto LOL

They prolly did it on purpose


The opener for Tiesto in TJ wasn't that good either. Serge Devant usually does a good job opening and/or closing for Tiesto.


Posted by Nerologic on Nov-11-2009 08:01:

quote:
Originally posted by mar46017
The opener for Tiesto in TJ wasn't that good either. Serge Devant usually does a good job opening and/or closing for Tiesto.


I heard that show was pretty good, was it?

I was going to go, but i was too busy at the street races running my CRX for cash lol

Ahh the good ol days...


Posted by gerard6975 on Nov-12-2009 00:04:

here's Thee-O's opening set for Robbie Rivera

Thee-O - Live at Giant (11/07/09) by Thee-O


Posted by woscar on Nov-12-2009 00:39:

One of the best opening sets I've ever heard

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=529172


Posted by gerard6975 on Nov-12-2009 01:00:

quote:
Originally posted by woscar
One of the best opening sets I've ever heard

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=529172


woscar aka clovis?

LOL


Posted by Clovis on Nov-12-2009 01:39:

thanks oscar


Posted by DjWoody on Nov-12-2009 01:53:

Now my turn. Opening DJ's should do their homework and research the DJ they're opening for and at least listen to some of their current sets to get a feel for him/her.

However, I also believe that if the headliner DJ can't keep up with the opening DJ, than he shouldn't be headlining. They should be prepared for anything and everything.

If the opening DJ begins to bang it out, than their last tracks should be something similar to the opening tracks on the sets they researched.

There are times when headliner DJ's decide to all of the sudden change direction and start with something completely unexpected. That's ok too. And there are times when headliners have intros that aid them on the transition.

A big no no is to play any tracks made by the artist you're opening for. I saw that a lot in Miami this year.


Posted by DjWoody on Nov-12-2009 01:56:

BTW, when I opened at Avalon a few years back, I think I banged it out a bit too hard. I got both good and bad compliments from people I never met. I got 2 that said I was good but I banged it out too hard, and I got a shit load that said I was awesome. And they all came from people I never met.

To me, getting compliments from people I never met or never heard of me is the maximum reward because they aren't bias at all.


Posted by Thee-O on Nov-12-2009 02:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Cool1g
what's funny in context of that article coming out is Theo banged it out pretty hard at Giant on Sat opening for Robbie Rivera (granted he played until 1 so i guess that's late enough to turn it up at some point...)


Funny thing is that I played for almost 4 hours. I don't pre program my sets. For the most part I played some deeper stuff. I played a few bangers in there but no electro or full on vocal stuff. I brought it back down actually about 30 min before he was going to go on, because I know you got to let the headliner do his thing. However I was very conscious of what was going to happen after my set. I recorded my entire set and will upload it right now so you can be the judge.


Posted by Thee-O on Nov-12-2009 02:56:

quote:
Originally posted by gerard6975
i totally agree that thee-o wasn't banging it out. i think he did it perfectly with a good progression throughout the night. if a headliner gets on at 1am, the opener should be warming up til midnight and get the night grooving til the opener passes it on. this is the only way to get the crowd hooked and not get them bored.

i'm sure he recorded his set and listen to it. then we can all make our opinions.


yeah what he said!! and thanks for posting up the mix


Posted by darin epsilon on Nov-12-2009 03:25:

quote:
Originally posted by DjWoody
A big no no is to play any tracks made by the artist you're opening for. I saw that a lot in Miami this year.


Why is that frowned upon? I played Sudha feat. Zoe Johnston - Leche (Way Out West Remix) right before Jody Wisternoff got on and he was extremely happy. I think playing a track by the headliner is a huge compliment. Maybe you mean it's a bad idea except when you play the old stuff?


Posted by Clovis on Nov-12-2009 03:31:

I think playing a much older track by the headliner that fits well can be really cool, but it all depends on the situation and mood.


Posted by gerard6975 on Nov-12-2009 04:37:

like if you play Adagio For Strings or Traffic when opening for tiesto.


Posted by DjWoody on Nov-12-2009 05:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
I think playing a much older track by the headliner that fits well can be really cool, but it all depends on the situation and mood.



You're dead on.

What I saw in Miami was the opening DJ's for Laidback Luke playing a lot of his tracks. When Luke came on, he played them again.


Posted by Nerologic on Nov-12-2009 07:26:

quote:
Originally posted by DjWoody
What I saw in Miami was the opening DJ's for Laidback Luke playing a lot of his tracks. When Luke came on, he played them again.


Thing is about Luke...

The opener will just "play" his tracks.

Luke will fucking DROP his tracks, with effects, edits, loops etc. So in reality it doesn't it even sound the same.

He didn't really have an opener for Nocturnal, so not much there. His opener for Vegas played some of his tracks prior to his set, a select few older/newer tracks and just a ton of big room tracks. When Luke came on he played the 1 or 2 of the same tracks but he fucking DESTROYED them the way Luke does best.

But then again, there aren't many people like Luke though lol


Posted by R!CH on Nov-12-2009 07:35:

quote:
Originally posted by DjWoody
What I saw in Miami was the opening DJ's for Laidback Luke playing a lot of his tracks. When Luke came on, he played them again.


that sounds really lame on both their parts. lame on the opener for playing what luke apparently wanted to play and super lame on luke for not being able to adjust and deliver something fresh to the crowd. maybe luke showed up at the very end and didn't know that happened so i'll reserve judgment there, but still a pretty wack situation.

playing ONE track from the headliner's distant past is not the same as playing a bunch of them when you're opening for him. an opener like that is an insult to his local scene.

the opener's role is simple--as stated--to set up the party properly for a smooth transition into the headliner's arrival. beyond that you are completely free to express yourself through your track selection. a good dj will try to challenge the crowd and set himself apart with new and compelling sounds that appeal to that particular scene. a lame dj will go for the low hanging fruit, the easy and familiar crowdpleasers, the epitome of which is playing all the headliner's music. if you get a chance to open for a big dj, it's your opportunity to prove to a crowd that you have something to add. why not aim to stun and impress? my goal would be to play tracks the headliner hasn't heard and wants.


Posted by Hypersky on Nov-12-2009 16:54:

Using Woody's suggestion, if you really want to fuck with the headliner, you could download a recent set of his and proceed to play the same tracks in the same order as your warm up set.


Posted by Randy S on Nov-12-2009 18:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Victor Dinaire
lol he was one of a kind


Wow...weird! Facebook recommended that I suggest friends for Miki Swiss just now... Look out in your box lol!!


Posted by Lomeli on Nov-12-2009 18:37:

"Know your place."


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