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Posted by LKD on Nov-23-2009 13:56:

went to Joe a couple times...was crap crap crap


Posted by DJOS2 on Nov-23-2009 15:22:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL

Playdium - failed
Lucid - failed
CiRCA - failed

i think that building is cursed



Playdium failed because of location. Kids don't live in the club district or anywhere close to it. Whoever thought this would work was smoking crack (or what parents think their kids would be doing if they took the bus to the big smoke). These type of venues work in the burbs where your minivan driving mom can drop you off and pick you up...

Lucid failed because after going public, the founder stole all the money that was raised in the offering and left the country. The club was forced to survive with no capital backing so any bad weeks were like small knife wounds and they eventually bled out due to a poorly negociated rent agreement that was unworkable

CiRCA hasn't completely failed (yet) but was always behind the 8-ball due to a long legal delay before opening, high rent, poor management and other things. If someone would just run the place right instead of like a retard convention, the place really has potential.

OS


Posted by DJOS2 on Nov-23-2009 15:24:

quote:
Originally posted by VDub
Yes yes the Whiskey...

I'm pretty sure it was my first club district experience...

Spent many a Friday there....


Before that it was Go-Go... spent many a night in the "White Room" before heading off to 23 Hop!

OS


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Nov-23-2009 15:34:

quote:
Originally posted by DJOS2
CiRCA hasn't completely failed (yet) but was always behind the 8-ball due to a long legal delay before opening, high rent, poor management and other things. If someone would just run the place right instead of like a retard convention, the place really has potential.

OS


What is the right formula for that location.....they've tried appealing to the Trance/House people and that didn't work....now they are trying to appeal to the top 40 crowd and that doesn't seem to work.

There just isn't enough party people in the entertainment district for the number of clubs there are.


Posted by VDub on Nov-23-2009 16:48:

There isn't a right formula for that space as a club...

Charles would've never given it up if there was...


Posted by deephousekid on Nov-23-2009 17:46:

get some big names, these people need to some good music research find dj's who are hot in different places... even look underground..you never know im really not trying to listen to same boring mash dj's


Posted by DJOS2 on Nov-23-2009 17:50:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
What is the right formula for that location.....they've tried appealing to the Trance/House people and that didn't work....now they are trying to appeal to the top 40 crowd and that doesn't seem to work.

There just isn't enough party people in the entertainment district for the number of clubs there are.


With a place that size there has to be a lot going on. They need to develop a concert business through relationships with the big players and labels, they need to promote various events on the same night with different entrances, they need to work on special events and meetings, the movie and television biz and many more. The place is very unique but simply relying on a bar crowd to make it work is not an option. There has to be multiple sources of income or its destined to fail.

Its not what style of music, its the fact that any style should just be one of many income streams.

OS


Posted by Ferg on Nov-23-2009 17:54:

Circa is crap. My main issue is that the main dance floor is way to small. I feel everytime I went there I spent my time walking around or pushed around by bouncers on some sort of power trip. Place just has a bad vibe with me.


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Nov-23-2009 17:58:

quote:
Originally posted by DJOS2
With a place that size there has to be a lot going on. They need to develop a concert business through relationships with the big players and labels, they need to promote various events on the same night with different entrances, they need to work on special events and meetings, the movie and television biz and many more. The place is very unique but simply relying on a bar crowd to make it work is not an option. There has to be multiple sources of income or its destined to fail.

Its not what style of music, its the fact that any style should just be one of many income streams.

OS


Circa has tried all the above and still failed.


Posted by kotsy on Nov-23-2009 20:32:

quote:
Originally posted by VDub
Yes yes the Whiskey...

I'm pretty sure it was my first club district experience...

Spent many a Friday there....


The first time I went to Whiskey Saigon was on a sunday and the very last night it was open. The following week they started major renovations which eventually reopened as Joe. I'll always have the memory of that one night I got to party at WS.


Posted by Abercrombie on Nov-23-2009 21:28:

Whiskey a Go-Go is still open


Posted by VDub on Nov-23-2009 21:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Abercrombie
Whiskey a Go-Go is still open


Yes but I've heard it's not even close to like it was 10 years ago...

I used to go every Thursday night to get passes for Guv from Roy....


Posted by DJOS2 on Nov-23-2009 22:04:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
Circa has tried all the above and still failed.


I agree they failed but they failed because they could not develop any of them into a reliable source of income - not because they were successful and it still didn't add up. It came down to not having the right people and the right relationships in place.

OS


Posted by Skipper on Nov-23-2009 22:05:

I only went once or twice, and quite honestly, I never really understood it. I don't really know how else to describe it, but it just seemed like I never knew who the place was trying to appeal to.

I wish boa had had a liquor license. I think it would have done quite well.


Posted by Jay Leno on Nov-23-2009 22:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
I wish boa had had a liquor license. I think it would have done quite well.


+1


Posted by Endlesswave on Nov-23-2009 22:45:

quote:
Originally posted by kotsy
wft

I miss whiskey


So do I. Went there many a time in my university days. Aww.


Posted by VDub on Nov-23-2009 23:32:

quote:
Originally posted by kotsy
The first time I went to Whiskey Saigon was on a sunday and the very last night it was open. The following week they started major renovations which eventually reopened as Joe. I'll always have the memory of that one night I got to party at WS.



Did you know it had a cryo system similar to my nitrogen???

It was the first time I'd experienced it or even heard of it...

They were the first in the city...


Posted by Jayx1 on Nov-24-2009 00:18:

quote:
Originally posted by VDub
Did you know it had a cryo system similar to my nitrogen???

It was the first time I'd experienced it or even heard of it...

They were the first in the city...


i think joker was the first..


came out of fixed pipes along each side of the floor... so cool


Posted by kotsy on Nov-24-2009 01:14:

quote:
Originally posted by VDub
Did you know it had a cryo system similar to my nitrogen???

It was the first time I'd experienced it or even heard of it...

They were the first in the city...


no I didn't but it was the first laser show I saw at a club that impressed me


Posted by Miss. S on Nov-24-2009 02:21:

Thumbs up

quote:
Originally posted by PivotTechno
You can't put a pseudo-avant garde club in the middle of a sea of mediocrity (read: the entertainment district) and expect it to succeed. When you boil it right down, the majority of people who go out these days don't care about out-there decor and freaky mascots running around (well, maybe for the first five minutes), they just want to be where everyone else is.

Successful super-clubs like Guv aside, I'd love to see someone step up and open up a place like Industry again, but that's more wishful thinking than anything else. Combination of just the right capacity, simple yet highly functional layout, absolutely killer soundsystem and bookings that for the better part emphasised the most skilled and forward thinking aspects of the dance music community. Most clubs these days (hell, on most days) are too caught up with flying in the flavour of the moment and hoping each night somehow sticks, rather than building loyalty based on long-term vision. Fuck marketing - whether 50 capacity or 5,000, the best clubs don't follow trends, they create them.


yep.


Posted by VDub on Nov-24-2009 03:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
i think joker was the first..


came out of fixed pipes along each side of the floor... so cool


No buddy...

It was def in Whiskey...

6 jets coming out of the ceiling top floor...

I never saw it at Joker...


Posted by VDub on Nov-24-2009 03:06:

quote:
Originally posted by kotsy
no I didn't but it was the first laser show I saw at a club that impressed me


THAT would be FX/World in Mississauga for me...

God that place was huge...


Posted by dEsidEL on Nov-24-2009 03:30:

quote:
Originally posted by DJOS2



Bring back the Nokia Renaissance party at RTH!!


Posted by Mr. Destiny on Nov-24-2009 04:23:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL

Bring back the Nokia Renaissance party at RTH!!


No way - lost our shirts on that one!

OS


Posted by Mach X on Nov-24-2009 04:25:

I had a great time the both times I went there...

First time was the best when the Ballroom was bumping, saw Jesse Rose and Bang Gang DJs in there... amazing vibe!

Other time was for Carl Cox, maybe it was the company, or the atmosphere, but that was a wicked time as well.

I never had the chance to hit it up on a regular club night tho...


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