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my favorite projects:

delta 9 (terror master!)
dj nosferatu aka endorphin
somatic responses (of course!)
industrial terror squad
da predator
zenith
zekt
choose
machines
dj producer
hellfish
manu le malin
koenig cylinders
liza n liaz (too bad she died )
disciples of annihilation
disintegrator
endymion
buzz fuzz
marshall masters

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Originally posted by USSR Junkie my favorite projects: delta 9 (terror master!) dj nosferatu aka endorphin somatic responses (of course!) industrial terror squad da predator zenith zekt choose machines dj producer hellfish manu le malin koenig cylinders liza n liaz (too bad she died ) disciples of annihilation disintegrator endymion buzz fuzz marshall masters

your are much more into the frenchcore ..?!?!?

i have a couple of cd on that style of music but honestly i dont like it much....

Nosferatu .......but his now making very shitty music .....

WTF?? what do u mean by frenchcore? the origin is not an issue here, it's style that counts. most of the projects above are terrorcore, acidcore, artcore, and noise (hardcore idm). and most of them are not french.

nosferatu - the netherlands
liza n eliaz - belgium, not france
disintegrator - the usa (NY)
koenig cylinders - the usa
machines - the usa
zekt - denmark
choose - denmark
delta 9 - the usa (chicago)
manu le malin - france
marshal masters = marc acardipane - i don't think he's french, he's from frankfurt, germany!
industrial terror squad - germany (rombold brothers)
dj producer - the usa (?)
dj buzz fuzz - holland!
endymion = 3 producers that live in the netherlands!


as for nosferatu, he has some true masterpieces such as the 3 worlds, artcore dna, experiments of human nature, the essence, karma, shadowchild, share your pain, and others... he used to make REALLY good stuff.

USSRCORE !!

he knows his music....thats why i always ask him or Verm on the hard stuff...they KNOW their shit..and are passing the knowledge to ME

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Originally posted by USSR Junkie WTF?? what do u mean by frenchcore? the origin is not an issue here, it's style that counts. most of the projects above are terrorcore, acidcore, artcore, and noise (hardcore idm). and most of them are not french. nosferatu - the netherlands liza n eliaz - belgium, not france disintegrator - the usa (NY) koenig cylinders - the usa machines - the usa zekt - denmark choose - denmark delta 9 - the usa (chicago) manu le malin - france marshal masters = marc acardipane - i don't think he's french, he's from frankfurt, germany! industrial terror squad - germany (rombold brothers) dj producer - the usa (?) dj buzz fuzz - holland! endymion = 3 producers that live in the netherlands! as for nosferatu, he has some true masterpieces such as the 3 worlds, artcore dna, experiments of human nature, the essence, karma, shadowchild, share your pain, and others... he used to make REALLY good stuff.

i know where all of those producer came from!!!

and for french core i mean the hardcore that came from France

you cited helfish .....manu le malin...their both france as i remember ....dj producer shuold be france too ..and alos ...micropoint (micropoint for sure ) .......i used to call these kind of musick france core for these reason i call it france core ...
It's gothic..it's noise core (maybe these is the better to said ) or what da hell is ....i don't know because honestly i dont like it !


for nosferatu\endorphin\myztic\d'sporhphin(with d'spyre ) and all his alias ......yes he have mad some masterpiece ...the great strife it's one of my favuorite track .....with the future and artcore dna ......but now under Enzyme records he his making very commercial shitty music !ANd honestly i still didn't found a track that i like that is made under enzyme records ....



That's all


See ya

liza n liaz died!!?? o damn.. yeah.. she looked pretty old..

r.i.p then...

grtz,

DJ Mantis

ps. when did she die?

yes, the grandma of terror has passed away in early 2001. it was a huge loss for the scene as she was the oldest hardcore producer ever!

Hellfish rocks!!!!!Check out "Bring On The Hurricane Pain",wicked!!I love the hiphop influences that Hellfish has in his way of making those rocking hardcore/techno hybrids of his.I'd like to hear what terror sounds like,tho.300 fucking BPM....sick!Got any Delta 9 tracks to recommend,USSR Junkie?

Although gabber and the sort is not really my thing(I guess that it is an acquired taste),I did read an interesting article on Marc Acardipane and doomcore in a magazine once,here are some facts about him:

-He's from Frankfurt,Germany where his own label PCP(sic)is based.He is considered to be one of the founders of the Doomcore-sound along with producers Miro and Don Demon.

-He has about 20 aliases.Among the most famous ones are Pilldriver,Marshall Masters,Mescalinum United,Ace the Space,Rave Creator and The Mover(did you get those,GrimReaper?).

-He got so popular that he once played at a belgian party with various underground artists like The Vengaboys. He also got a no.3 placement in the charts with Marshall Masters - Don't Touch That Stereo.

-He was quite a hip producer once,making records for at that time legendary techno label R&S,and Aphex Twin remixed "We Have Arrived" by Mescalinum United.(does anyone have this?)

Some inof on doomcore:

The genre doomcore got its name because of the apocalyptic themes contained in the tracks.Examples: the tracks within the genre had titles like Reign - The Zombie Leader Is Approachin',Arrivers - Dark Invader and so on.It was all about the "time after",about a dark and sinister future of mankind.This is what Oliver Chesler aka The Horrorist(a significant figure in the doomcore scene) had to say about the rather pitch black view of the future the doomcore sound has:

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I just can't imagine that this whole mankind-drama is going to have a happy ending.Darkness isn't something mystical or enigmatic,it is a part of life for everyone.

Marc Acardipane offers an even better description on the doomcore sound:

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Imagine,you were looking at earth after a global nuclear disaster,and you really enjoy the things you see.That's the way it feels listening to Doomcore.

Quite evil,no?

No offense,but I was just wondering:when you're at a gabber/doomcore etc.-event,how do you act?I mean,it's not like you can dance to something that's pounding @ 170-300 BPM.Hell,you can't even jump up and down to something as fast as that!So,what do you do?Twitch at every kickdrum or something?

i still listen to hardcore sometimes.. but not to new hardcore. i love the "classics".

my fav hardcore artist are g-town madness, neophyte, rtc... fav hardcore dj is buzz fuzz, his set at thunderomde 1996 is awesome! (especially his first mix... french connection - french connection mixed with stunned guys - beats time)

and as USSR Junkie said.. marc acardipane (marshall masters, pcp, inferno bros., ace the space, nasty django, atmos-fear, pilldriver, masters of rave, rave creator, and probalby tons of other names:P id-crisis?) is from frankfurt, germany. (if im right he moved to hamburg at the end of the 90's, but i could be wrong)

hmmm reading a bit back tells me Sand Leaper posted somewhat the same as i did heh...

my delta 9 recommendation is "welcome to hell"

hehe

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Originally posted by John and as USSR Junkie said.. marc acardipane (marshall masters, pcp, inferno bros., ace the space, nasty django, atmos-fear, pilldriver, masters of rave, rave creator, and probalby tons of other names:P id-crisis?) is from frankfurt, germany.

i posted the following in another thread but am posting it again 'caz it is where it should've been posted

most of Marc's aliases:

Inferno Bros. (w/ Slam Burt)
Stereo Murder
Dogge Team
Leathernecks (w/ Lenny Dee)
Friends of Alex
Frank D.
Mescalinum United
Nasty Django
T-Bone Castro
The Mover
FBI
PCP
Trip Commando (formerly w/ Ramin, now alone)
Ace the Space (occasionally w/ Slam Burt)
M.F.P.A. (w/ Slam Burt)
White Breaks
Turbulence (w/ Roy Batty)
Program 1
Smash (w/ Roy Batty & Fast H)
6-Pack (w/ J.Robinson & Slam Burt)
Rave Creator
Cypher
Marschall Masters
Freez-E-Style (w/ Slam Burt)
Masters of Rave
Korrekt M.F.'s
Shakira (w/ Syrius 23)
Chucky Chunk
KO
Two Tonys (w/ Slam Burt)
The Great Bellinis
A Lighter Shade
Delirium Posse (w/ many others)
8 A.M.
Killerloops (w/ Ongaku)
Pilldriver
Tilt!

id-crisis? hmmm, it's more likely an id-cataclysm... duh!

yeah acardipane rules !!!!!

and his live act rules too .....
there where many of his alias in his ufficial site ....but i'm sorry but i can't remember the name of it

a good trck that remeber me a little bit trance is
tanochinjaii - fallen angel.....realy weird track but need to have a listen !


his friend miro it's also a great producer ...try :
miro - purple moon ......great track!!!!

Haha nice to see people who know of PCP!
Miro, Leviathan, Reign, Lancinhouse, Mescalinum United, 6-Pack, Dano, Inferno bros., Opposing Forces, Ace The Space, French Connection, Placid K, Nasty Django, Nosferatu, Atmos-fear, Pilldriver, you name it.....
I have all of the forementioned artists on vinyl and i still spin them now and then!
But i have just 1 question does anybody have some live sets of PCP or even better this french guy called Laurent Ho??!
Seen him once, like 7 years ago, @ a Digital Overdose party and he blew me away!!
Guess not, but if you do please pm me, i really want some shit by this guy! I have only some tracks on vinyl and remixes by him.
He plays like very industrial hardcore mixed with techno, sort of like Manu Le Malin.

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper Got any Delta 9 tracks to recommend,USSR Junkie?

I forgot about delta 9 recommendations:

Welcome to hell (his most famous)
Die Hard
Atomizer
Headstrong (Full On Remix)
Mortified
Speaker Worship
Watch yer back
War
Gemini
This is a test

+ these tracks by other artists to get a general idea of what doomcore and its evil twin brother, terrorcore (or speedcore as its called in North America), really are:

Bloody Fist - Cock Sucker
THC - Strange Days
Nordcore GMBH - Freddy's Strafe
Sub-Urbane - Pauley
D.O.A. - Ya Mutha
Industrial Terror Squad - We will never forget
DJ Freak - I Will Fight
Bakalla - True Force
Desintegrated - Ain't no Hardcore, Brother
Manu le Malin & DJ Producer - Enemy
UK Skullfuck - Arse of the Tiger
Senical - Crap Factory
Speedhaste - Jumping to the beat
S.W.A.T. - Tank Force

+ basically anything on these labels - Dark Park, Bloody Fist, Industrial Strength, EarAche, and Epiteth Records

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Originally posted by PCP2017 Haha nice to see people who know of PCP! Miro, Leviathan, Reign, Lancinhouse, Mescalinum United, 6-Pack, Dano, Inferno bros., Opposing Forces, Ace The Space, French Connection, Placid K, Nasty Django, Nosferatu, Atmos-fear, Pilldriver, you name it..... I have all of the forementioned artists on vinyl and i still spin them now and then! But i have just 1 question does anybody have some live sets of PCP or even better this french guy called Laurent Ho??! Seen him once, like 7 years ago, @ a Digital Overdose party and he blew me away!! Guess not, but if you do please pm me, i really want some shit by this guy! I have only some tracks on vinyl and remixes by him. He plays like very industrial hardcore mixed with techno, sort of like Manu Le Malin.

Ummm i shuold have two short live of marc acardipane....

when at GBHN(global hardcore nation ) where i have the piece where he spin inferno rothers - slaves to the rave ----something for your mind ---and at thefinish i like it loud ---it's like 7 -8 minute long ..then i have another one which is only a track ...today ,tommorow forever ..these one also in live ....


Laurent ho .....heheh ....another crazy french producer ....but no sorry i don't have much of him


Cheers,Marco

Gabber started out in Rotterdam, Holland.

First they played it in the soccer-stadion's. DJ Paul Elstak and DJ Rob, Maurice Steenbergen, DJ Gizmo... this are the mens of the first hour. Rotterdam Termination Source... Poing! was the first song that switched my taste into techno...

I hate the word GABBER. There are so much sections in Hardcore... Holland Hardcore I would define for Thunderdome, DJ Promo and The Ruffneck ARTCORE. Terror is like Nordcore GmbH, DOA and Delta9, Nasenbluten etc.... Old School is like DJ Rob etc.. Happy Hardcore is like DJ Waxweazle, Weirdo etc, Breakbeat like DJ Brisk, DJ Ham etc...

That was my music of the 90's... so much nice parties. I remember Thunderdome 1996 in Antwerp... awesome.

To trance I listen since 1994 (Jens Malstedt - Loops & Tings RMX or Cosmic Baby - Loops of Infinity and of course the old Hardhouse-Vinyls like Cybordelics and Frankfurt Beat... *sigh*).

Funny thing: we went to a hardcore-party in Groningen (Bladerunner, October 1996), Holland and we asked for the "Gabber-Party"... the policemen showed us the way to the HOUSEPARTY (!!!)

I really like the old hardcore... but I hate those slow and boring newstyle. They destroyed everything!!!

BTW:

Check my mix, please!! It's worth downloading it!!

Style: Artcore/Hardcore (Holland Style)

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get it here

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Originally posted by NIGHTERROR Ummm i shuold have two short live of marc acardipane.... when at GBHN(global hardcore nation ) where i have the piece where he spin inferno rothers - slaves to the rave ----something for your mind ---and at thefinish i like it loud ---it's like 7 -8 minute Cheers,Marco

a frien of mine has the GBHN cd, with the live sets. really a great cd. Especially that intro of the russian dj: boris valeo. he started with the old USSR national anthem, really cool

yeah, I own this CD, too! I just have to listen to it right now...

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Originally posted by TranceRulez BTW: Check my mix, please!! It's worth downloading it!! Style: Artcore/Hardcore (Holland Style) 4 Users max, 10 kb upload. 1 logins per IP. get it here

I will realy like to download it but i can't because i' on a 56 k and i cant stay much on internet anymore ....

Btw there shuold be a live set hardcore also on a site of me and a friend www.x-soundz.com soon there will b e my hardcore track on it and now there shuold be a dj set of our friend the rave gladiators

it's good to see that these thread it's having a lot of viewer

Cheers , Marco

And the shadowlands terrorists?????????
Break it down
hardcore it's our life & our style
dropping bombs
impossible too lose .....

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Originally posted by NIGHTERROR And the shadowlands terrorists????????? Break it down hardcore it's our life & our style dropping bombs impossible too lose .....

Wow jeah, thats old too. Shadowlands was an organisation just like ID&T..they started with organising parties & stuff.. Some of them quite big (30.000 in an ice stadium). Shadowlands originated from a record shop somewhere in the province of Brabant, Holland.

Greetz,
SnuggLe

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