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Posted by Sushipunk on Jan-08-2010 05:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
You aren't old-school if you play the D&D with the A in it, what the fuck isn't wrong with you?


That had better not be some subversive technique to badmouth AD+D. Because if it is, I'm going to stab you in the eyes with an eleven


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jan-08-2010 06:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
You aren't old-school if you play the D&D with the A in it, what the fuck isn't wrong with you?


i played D&D too, and found it wanting. i dont need some hippy barely out of their teens telling me what oldschool is


Posted by djnitride on Jan-08-2010 06:32:

Lol, its not racist if its true.

But seriously, stereotypes are already beaten to death in practice, this commercial target the stereotype that black people like fried chicken, but I see something more.

Its showing how fried chicken brings people together, black and white. The white guy is eating it too!

And the commercial would have worked the other way around, black guy with a bunch of white people doing typical white stuff....


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jan-08-2010 06:36:

i know youre prob an alt trolling, but ill take the bait.

quote:
Originally posted by djnitride
this commercial target the stereotype that black people like fried chicken,


no it doesn't, you stupid fucking prick.


Posted by Trance Nutter on Jan-08-2010 12:20:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
no it doesn't, you stupid fucking prick.



exactly. This ad has been on here since November (when the Windies were touring Australia) and not once watching it did I (or anyone i know) think 'hehe, black people eating chicken'.

Its a guy stuck in a group of opposition supporters going mental. How can he make them be quiet? Give them some delectable foodstuffs so they are eating rather than cheering. The exact same ad would have worked had it been South African, English, Indian, Pakistani (who are touring at the moment) or Kiwi supporters around him. Why were they West Indians? Cos their team was touring, and their supporters are konwn for their raucous supporting style.

The 'black people and fried chicken' stereotype does not exist here, so had it been aimed at that stereotype Australians simply wouldn't have got it.


And why would it be aimed at the "African-American's eat fried chicken", when the people he gives it to are from the West Indies, not America?


Posted by Spam on Jan-08-2010 12:45:

Not KFC,

Buuut...


Posted by bananas on Jan-08-2010 13:46:


Posted by bananas on Jan-08-2010 13:50:

but ffs, she can't feed her children cause a fast food restaurant ran out of chicken.
cook smth bitch, stop poisoning your kids


Posted by Sandsider on Jan-08-2010 14:31:

quote:
Originally posted by bananas



Some clever-ass niggas right there . " They gon be some motha-fuckin homicides tonight !" Great find.


Posted by Schadenfreude on Jan-08-2010 16:28:

man, i don't even have to try anymore

lol @ the banana bender that thinks i am from germany.


Posted by jonSun on Jan-09-2010 15:44:

welp it seems the aussies aren't too fond of indians.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8449731.stm


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jan-09-2010 15:51:

dont get me started. anytime any darkie gets the nasty the relative darkies always assume its about race.

india is in an uproar because several of their darkie brothers have met the sword in the last couple of weeks, and though nobody has been able to present any evidence regarding the attacks, the cartoonists in darkie central are depicting the police as the KKK because they haven't admitted any of the attacks are about race, nor apprehended the offenders.

if those stupid cvnts made better taxi drivers maybe we wouldnt all hate them.


Posted by Lira on Jan-09-2010 15:57:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
dont get me started. anytime any darkie gets the nasty the relative darkies always assume its about race.

india is in an uproar because several of their darkie brothers have met the sword in the last couple of weeks, and though nobody has been able to present any evidence regarding the attacks, the cartoonists in darkie central are depicting the police as the KKK because they haven't admitted any of the attacks are about race, nor apprehended the offenders.

if those stupid cvnts made better taxi drivers maybe we wouldnt all hate them.

It's inevitable. We had the very same problem here in Brazil last year.

The apartment of a bunch of African students was set ablaze during the middle of the night where I study, and everyone was quick to say it was a racist attack. As it turns out, it was another group of African students that started the fire because of a local feud


Posted by jonSun on Jan-09-2010 16:02:

When I was in Melbourne i had to sit in the back of the bus because i was black.


Posted by Ted Promo on Jan-09-2010 16:04:

Yeah, aborigines eat fried komodo dragons you soft cocks.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jan-09-2010 16:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
It's inevitable. We had the very same problem here in Brazil last year.

The apartment of a bunch of African students was set ablaze during the middle of the night where I study, and everyone was quick to say it was a racist attack. As it turns out, it was another group of African students that started the fire because of a local feud


lol. im the first to admit that austalia has racist elements. but id be surprised if it was any worse than any comparable nation. we have HUGE minority groups that have prospered and made their home here, there are bound to be ignorant and/or angry whities taking offence.

yet we were one of the first nations to introduce anti discrimination laws in an effort to combat all kinds of prejudice. its unfortunate that crime occurs but in cities of 3-4 million its really kinda inevitable.

and again, learn about the city youre driving a fucking cab in ffs. i want to kill you when you jew me, let alone when you jew the nasty people.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jan-09-2010 16:19:

quote:
Originally posted by jonSun
When I was in Melbourne i had to sit in the back of the bus because i was black.


that's bullshit. you had to sit at the back of the bus because only the back seat could fit your huge black ass.


Posted by Lira on Jan-09-2010 16:50:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
lol. im the first to admit that austalia has racist elements. but id be surprised if it was any worse than any comparable nation. we have HUGE minority groups that have prospered and made their home here, there are bound to be ignorant and/or angry whities taking offence.

yet we were one of the first nations to introduce anti discrimination laws in an effort to combat all kinds of prejudice. its unfortunate that crime occurs but in cities of 3-4 million its really kinda inevitable.

But, doesn't that happen everywhere? Ignorance knows no boundaries, that's why I was protecting the Americans a few posts back. Having these discussions, however, is extremely beneficial the way I see it - when you stir people up you're bound to see what they're really like. Here's a Chinese example:
quote:
TV talent show exposes China's race issue

Shanghai, China (CNN) -- It all started with the lure of the glitz, the glamour and the dream of being China's next pop star. But, as with many reality shows, Lou Jing's instant fame came with unanticipated consequences.

Lou Jing was born 20 years ago in Shanghai to a Chinese mother and an African-American father. According to her mother, who asked not to be identified in this report, she met Lou's father while she was still in college. He left China before their daughter was born.

Growing up with a single mom in central Shanghai, Lou Jing said she had good friends and lived a normal life. "When I was young, I didn't feel any different," she said.

But as soon as she stepped into the national spotlight on a Chinese reality television show called "Go! Oriental Angel," Lou Jing became a national sensation -- not necessarily because of her talent, but how she looked.

"After the contest started, I often got more attention than the other girls. It made me feel strange," Lou said.
The reality show hosts fondly called her "chocolate girl" and "black pearl." The Chinese media fixated on her skin color. Netizens flooded Web sites with comments saying she "never should have been born" and telling her to "get out of China."

Lou Jing's background became fodder for national gossip, sparking a vitriolic debate about race across a country that, in many respects, can be quite homogenous. There are 56 different recognized ethnic groups in China, but more than 90 percent of the population is Han Chinese. So people who look different stand out.

"We lived in a small circle before," said her mother. "But after Lou was seen nationwide, some Chinese people couldn't accept her."
It has been a shocking ordeal for someone who says she always considered herself just like every other Chinese girl.

"Sometimes people on the street would ask me, 'Why do you speak Chinese so well?' I'd just say, 'Because I'm Chinese!'" Lou said.
But, as any curious child would, Lou Jing certainly thought about why she looked different. In a clip reel aired on the show, her classmates say they tried to protect her from feeling out of place.

"She used to wonder why she had black skin," said one classmate. "We thought about this question together and decided to tell her it's because she likes dark chocolate. So her skin turned darker gradually."

Another classmate weighed in, "We said it's because she used to drink too much soy sauce."

Even Lou Jing's maternal grandmother admitted in a taped interview, "I told Lou Jing she was black because her mom was not very well and had to take Chinese medicine."

But such explanations were not enough for a voracious Chinese public. Show producers convinced Lou Jing's mom to appear on-air and asked her to address the many unanswered questions.

"Lou Jing did not ask about her father until she was sixteen years old," her mother told the audience. "She said, 'Where is my dad?' I didn't answer, I just cried and Lou Jing never asked me this question again."

On stage this time, it was Lou Jing who wept as she held an arm tightly around her mother, gripping the microphone in the other. The camera zoomed in on audience members tearing up as well.

"Lou Jing would cook dinner for me before I got home," her mother said. "I was quite sad then. In other families a girl her age would have a mom and a dad who loved her."

Although her father has been absent, Lou seemed to be curious about learning more. On the reality show, the host inquired, "Lou Jing, have you ever thought about going to find your dad, to get to know him?"
Lou Jing pauses for a moment and softly responds, "Yes, I have thought about that before."

In this way, the most private aspects of Lou Jing's otherwise quiet life became painfully public. But as the show went on, so did Lou Jing. She stuck with her daily routine, listening to Beyonce, her favorite artist, hanging out with her friends and continuing to go to school.

"I was so angry," said her drama teacher, Tao Yandong, of the Shanghai Drama Academy's School for the Television Arts. "My student had been insulted by others so of course I felt bad, too. But she told me she was fine and wasn't letting these things hurt her heart."

Watching Lou Jing laugh and gossip with her Chinese classmates today, this appears to be true. Back in her modest two-bedroom apartment, it is hard to imagine that Lou Jing and her mother are subjects of national scrutiny.

Instead, they are focused on her future. Her career goals are many, spanning from hosting a television show to becoming a diplomat "to bring people together," she said.

As a college junior, Lou Jing is thinking about graduate school applications, hoping to pursue a master's degree in foreign policy in New York City after she graduates from college.

When asked what she will do without her mother, Lou excitedly said, "My mom is going to come with me!"

Her mom shakes her head and smiles. If anything, their enduring bond as mother and daughter only seems to have gotten stronger. After all, for all their critics, there were just as many supporters.

Until the end of her run on "Go! Oriental Angel," fans continued to vote for Lou Jing show after show. The judges praised her confidence. Lou Jing was eventually eliminated before the finale, but not without a powerful parting message.

"I think I'm the same as all the girls here, except for my skin color. We share the same stage and the same dream. I've tried my best, so no matter what happens, I'll hold onto my dream."

[tl;dr version from CNN, commented version by the NYT]

As you can see, a girl born and raised in China by a Chinese mother had to deal with the ignorance of quite a few people on-line simply because of her skin colour. Would you say the West "taught them" that? I don't think so.


Posted by EricB. on Jan-09-2010 16:59:

so stupid i dont think its racist at all. Honestly sorry or bringing my heritage in this for an example but if it was a bunch of italians instead at a soccer game and the guy pulled out a bowl of pasta, would anyone have had made a fuckin noise about it????

probably not. I think the black race is very over sensitive. There are races out there that have gone through far worse. Not only that noone alive today even remembers the days of slavery, grow the fuck up. Suck it up. Stop thinking the world is out to get you, You have people in high places nowadays, enjoy it.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jan-09-2010 17:00:

SE asian nations are amongst the most racist on earth. it wasn't an accident the japs were so brutal in WW2.


Posted by Lira on Jan-09-2010 17:11:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
SE asian nations are amongst the most racist on earth. it wasn't an accident the japs were so brutal in WW2.

I think that's simply because we know them better. If we dig around Sub-Saharan Africa, I reckon we're bound to find some similar examples there as well. As for Japan, WWII was also their religious meltdown: we had some skirmishes here in Brazil among the settlers because of their theocratic nationalism at the time. Unfortunately, that's what is likely to happen when you're confident enough that something supreme is on your side and your power rules unchecked.


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