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-- 2010.03.26-2010.03.27 [WMC] Ultra Music Festival 2010
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Originally posted by DPetey81 They will eventually have single day tickets available for purchase. I will most likely be selling mine closer to the date, but I'm waiting to officially sort out my schedule.

You should come day 2!

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Originally posted by snatonsb You should come day 2!

It's tempting, especially the Cox tent, again.
I actually do like Ultra, just because it's a different vibe than anywhere else during the week. I am a big fan of having a varied experience down there, trying to do different types of parties, different venues, and different artists. And there's just something about tens of thousands of people coming together and enjoying the music.
The problem for me is that I can never devote a full day to Ultra, so it becomes less worth it for me. Hell, two years ago I spent a total of 5 hours there over the span of two days, all in the tent. It comes down to a financial decision, as it's not worth it to me for a few hours, even though I like it and there's plenty of artists I'd like to catch. If I were rich, no big deal. Or, if I would rest up and spend a full day there, it would be better, but Friday is Sander Yacht->PVD->SpaceTerrace until at least 10am, if not longer. I went straight to Ultra last year after leaving the terrace at noon. I had a good time, but I was pretty exhausted and I'm pretty sure I knocked a few years off my life, haha. So, this year gonna switch it up a little, and skip Ultra.... I'll hit it up again next year. I already got my open bar pass for the Discoteca yacht, so I'll need my energy to double fist some beverages.

I do expect a full review from you that night at Ferry.

thank god I brought my tickets for both days...

I skip Ultra last year !
It was different vibe stay @ sobe most of the week !!
I went from Nikki beach,shelbourne ,set,cameo,bed to the Armani store where Cosmic Gate & Andy Duguid play a set !!
I dint miss Ultra at all !!
besides the line up last year wasent as Impress as 2 yrs ago where UNDERWORLD and PVD play Live along with Justice .Tiesto and Morillo !! INSANE !!

This yr Im looking fwrd to c Faithless as I never see them live !
and Erik prytz !!
I will be spending most of the day @ the Ibiza tent and I will close on main stage with Armin van B. and Deadmau5 ...and run to SOBE for Shine

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Originally posted by Seppuku Orbital might have sold day 2 for me.

same. I can't believe it... both the fact that Orbital are coming and that I will be returning to Ultra.

ORbital, Pioneers of Electronic music @ Ultra? sounds yum.

UMF Brazil stage what's with that name?

Because there is a UMF in Brazil.

Legible Phase 2 Flier

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Originally posted by swerve311 Legible Phase 2 Flier http://www.ultramusicfestival.com/i...hase2lineup.jpg

wow all those exclusive tags are so gay.

LOL @damian marley and nas

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Originally posted by PatMcGroin wow all those exclusive tags are so gay.

yea thats what i said regarding above and beyond not being at their label event unless they can go around it by being oceanlab or doing a live set. Same for others. AM Only cant get artists now and other events as well. Pretty weak on Ultras part.

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Originally posted by element-y yea thats what i said regarding above and beyond not being at their label event unless they can go around it by being oceanlab or doing a live set. Same for others. AM Only cant get artists now and other events as well. Pretty weak on Ultras part.

like i said a few days ago... i really feel like ultra is actually ruining wmc a bit.

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Originally posted by PatMcGroin like i said a few days ago... i really feel like ultra is actually ruining wmc a bit.

its really only because they charge so much.. if it had less artist and charged only $50 for the whole weekend it would be worth it..

but I guess im spoiled by demf...

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Originally posted by echoform its really only because they charge so much.. if it had less artist and charged only $50 for the whole weekend it would be worth it.. but I guess im spoiled by demf...

i dont quite agree. some european festivals are just as expensive and its not an issue. but then again those festivals really bring in a shitload better artists and have an amazing production quality. comparing those to ultra really isnt even fair. the price mainly has to do with miami. because regular club nights here are more expensive than many many other cities.

my point is that because ultra has become such a focal point of wmc, they have a large influence and actually determine which artists come or dont come to miami. and by paying certain artists more for that exclusive tag, lets use armin as an example, they limit other artists that actually make the trip. one could argue that because armin isnt throwing his own party, whatever artists he would of brought with him (maybe w&w or someone like that) are now not coming. and that goes for many others as well. i mean its okay i guess that ulsra has a few exclusives like orbital, because where else would they really play anyway, but to completely monopolize artists the way they are is why i say ultra is ruining wmc.

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Originally posted by PatMcGroin i dont quite agree. some european festivals are just as expensive and its not an issue. but then again those festivals really bring in a shitload better artists and have an amazing production quality. comparing those to ultra really isnt even fair. the price mainly has to do with miami. because regular club nights here are more expensive than many many other cities. my point is that because ultra has become such a focal point of wmc, they have a large influence and actually determine which artists come or dont come to miami. and by paying certain artists more for that exclusive tag, lets use armin as an example, they limit other artists that actually make the trip. one could argue that because armin isnt throwing his own party, whatever artists he would of brought with him (maybe w&w or someone like that) are now not coming. and that goes for many others as well. i mean its okay i guess that ulsra has a few exclusives like orbital, because where else would they really play anyway, but to completely monopolize artists the way they are is why i say ultra is ruining wmc.

I agree. Look I love festivals because they are so different from clubs. Take Mysteryland or Dance Valley - both amazing festivals. Full production everywhere - from stage design, to sound, decor, lighting, etc.

Ultra on the other hand invests nothing into it really so by it taking exclusivity on artists, its almost like it admits to its poor production and tries to go after both the people wanting to attend a festival and those who want to see certain artists.

If Ultra didnt pay extra for them, im sure we would have seen more artists that arent as big in the states make it into a label party or what not. So Ultra in a way both brings people to Miami for WMC and limits events going on during WMC as well.

Here's a high quality post of Phase 2 from the Ultra website. Some additions, but doesn't look like they finalized the image as many icons on there arent listed on any stage (posted several examples on the WMC General discussion post).

I don't get how the production is poor though? The Carl Cox tent is so massive with it's huge sound system and lights + lasers from the videos I saw.

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Originally posted by snatonsb I don't get how the production is poor though? The Carl Cox tent is so massive with it's huge sound system and lights + lasers from the videos I saw.

its cuz you've never been to a real festival. once you go to one you'll understand what we mean.

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Originally posted by PatMcGroin its cuz you've never been to a real festival. once you go to one you'll understand what we mean.

Regardless this line up is more than enough to sell for the masses. I wouldn't be surprised if it takes record again this year for amount of people attending.

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Originally posted by snatonsb Regardless this line up is more than enough to sell for the masses. I wouldn't be surprised if it takes record again this year for amount of people attending.

i dunno about records, but yea you're right, the majority of people are cumming in their pants with this lineup.

EDC actually beat Ultra last year. And I am glad. Hope it pushes Ultra to invest more in design, decor, production, stage look, lighting, and sound.

CHeck out dancevalley or mysteryland videos and you will see what we mean by real festivals. And not talking about lineup. Sure stick to what you have if it works in the states, but step it up overall. Dont give me just a stage with heads and strobes and a crap laser and call it production haha.

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Originally posted by element-y Dont give me just a stage with heads and strobes and a crap laser and call it production haha.

ive think been to parties in basements or garages that have had more production than ultra.

and yea the cox tent has the most out of anything at ultra, but even that isnt all that much when you think about it.

first off, how hard is it to give the stage look something BIG? I mean give it a design. Last year was the first time they tried it - was pretty weak. The did it the year before that as well but that was total crap. Shape the stage, give it a look. COver the trusses and form a concept. Check out dancevalley again for ideas. I dont want to see the trusses. This isnt a rock show.

If you are going to do lasers, is it so hard to get a better one haha? The green laser is very weak - and if the city is capping it cause of the apartments, go with full color - they can be weaker than green lasers and still look bad ass. Also reflecting the lasers would add to the effect rather than just shooting it straight out. Look at Trans Siberian Orchestra videos for examples.

Add more to the lighting rig - simply having as many strobes and rotating heads as possible doesnt make it top notch production haha. It worked at Bayfront cause the stage was small and curved, but with bicentennial, you need to step it up.

Sound could use better calibration. Adjust the highs and the lows a lot better. Or be safe and keep with mid. Some have insane treble and some have insane bass.

With tents, add more to the stage production as well rather than hanging stuff from the tent ceilings. Also, more kryo would add a lot. And perhaps having additional lighting rig in the back to add to the effect.

Seems like a rant but its just pointers they could consider to enhance the show. They make top money so it wouldn't hurt to try and improve the show instead of just keeping it as is every year.

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Originally posted by PatMcGroin its cuz you've never been to a real festival. once you go to one you'll understand what we mean.

Yeah, compared to Global Gathering or Dance Valley, Ultra is gash really. And the line-up is always a mess. I mean, Timbaland followed The Prodigy last year. Awful.

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Originally posted by stepotts I mean, Timbaland followed The Prodigy last year. Awful.

Yeah... what the fuck was he even doing there? It was funny to watch the people walk away in huge masses when he took the stage.

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