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Posted by leph555 on Apr-20-2010 15:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Chimney
I seriously doubt there will be a new iphone this year.


wut?

Apple would be making the biggest mistake if they don't release an updated version of the iPhone this year. The new android phones absolutely kick the iphone's ass in terms of features and specs.

And Steve Jobs himself said that this years iphone upgrade is going to be top notch


Posted by leph555 on Apr-20-2010 15:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Moongoose
You may laugh but im not wrong.


I was laughing at the fact that it gets you so frustrated lol


Posted by Chimney on Apr-20-2010 15:50:

quote:
Originally posted by leph555
wut?

Apple would be making the biggest mistake if they don't release an updated version of the iPhone this year. The new android phones absolutely kick the iphone's ass in terms of features and specs.

And Steve Jobs himself said that this years iphone upgrade is going to be top notch



Hope so.I want a bigger screen tho


Posted by gehzumteufel on Apr-20-2010 16:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Chimney
I seriously doubt there will be a new iphone this year.

You're an idiot for this. The damn near finished (quite possibly the launch version, or something VERY close to it) prototype was posted in this thread. That phone is WAY too far along in the engineering, design, and test phases to not be real. Ribbon cables are branded Apple. That shit doesn't happen till you are at a point that you need to do that. Which basically means the product is mostly done. Just small changes here and there as necessary through testing.

quote:
Originally posted by Moongoose
But if im one of the people that uses c/p the promise that it might come around some time in the future really means nothing to me, theres no escaping the fact that when i buy the new device, i will be severely limited in how i can use it, which will in essence stop me from buying it.

And i would have to disagree about the lack of true multitasking. For some apps its essential that they be allowed to run uninterrupted in the background. Push notifications are ok for IM clients, twitter and stuff like that, but for stuff like 3rd party audio/video players and satnav for example running in the background is essential. Now a developer that wants its app to run in the background can appeal to MS for access to relevant APIs but MS has stated that they will be extra stingy with giving those out. And if you're a developer of some piece of software that competes with MS own default software...just imagine how happy they will be to help you compete with them.

As far as metro goes... browse around a bit on engadget, there were links on there to a hacked devkit that let you play with the UI enough to get a good feel about it. I didn't like it the first time i laid my eyes on the pics, as the first thing i noticed were massive amounts of wasted space on the screen, and after trying it out i can say for myself that its nowhere near as nice to use as the default android UI or HTC sense UI. I wont compare it to the iphone UI as i never found it that all that appealing.

And i do agree with you partially about how apps are coded...but only partially. Certain guidelines for more cohesion would indeed be good, but they have taken it too far with the requirement that every single app that you want released for the platform needs to be approved and distributed via the marketplace. I didnt like it when apple did it with iTunes, i like it even less now.

That, coupled with other steps back (the person who decided hat there will no file system access in WP7 needs to be shot, drowned, quartered, hanged and burned alive for his crime) really makes the new platform fall short of what a smartphone should be. The way forward should be more and better not less and worse but with a fancier UI.

I said I am not a fan of the direction they have taken. I am done with WinMo in 2-3 months. Moving on to getting an Android phone. I don't like that native code and filesystem access is forbidden. It is just ridiculous. So I am over it. No need to complain when there are options.


Posted by bas on Apr-20-2010 16:25:

tee hee

http://gizmodo.com/5520071/htc-droi...kyline=true&s=i

Only problem is that it's Verizon only. I love my G1, but I'm kinda bummed T-Mobile isn't getting any of this 2nd gen HTC love


Posted by gehzumteufel on Apr-20-2010 16:28:

quote:
Originally posted by bas
tee hee

http://gizmodo.com/5520071/htc-droi...kyline=true&s=i

Only problem is that it's Verizon only. I love my G1, but I'm kinda bummed T-Mobile isn't getting any of this 2nd gen HTC love

Don't be so quick.

http://www.tmonews.com/2010/04/t-mo...htc-incredible/


Posted by bas on Apr-20-2010 16:29:

quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
Don't be so quick.

http://www.tmonews.com/2010/04/t-mo...htc-incredible/

LOL hooray! At this point I'm just envious of all the 2nd gen processor speeds and internal storage. They really didn't try anything adventurous with the G1 save for the OS


Posted by Chimney on Apr-20-2010 16:40:

quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
You're an idiot for this.



Keep being sure on your cause Crusader. Till Steve J. doesn't say it with his own words it isn't official,so shut the fuck up with your super theories. You're just some jack on a music forum that doesn't know more than anyone else.


Posted by gehzumteufel on Apr-20-2010 17:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Chimney
Keep being sure on your cause Crusader. Till Steve J. doesn't say it with his own words it isn't official,so shut the fuck up with your super theories. You're just some jack on a music forum that doesn't know more than anyone else.

You want me to list all the other things that were leaked that companies wouldn't confirm but were spot on?

Nexus One
G1
iPhone
iPhone 3G
iPhone 3GS
iPad
HTC Incredible
HTC EVO
HTC Rhodium
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The list goes on for fucking ever. You get it? Now fuck off.

quote:
Originally posted by bas
LOL hooray! At this point I'm just envious of all the 2nd gen processor speeds and internal storage. They really didn't try anything adventurous with the G1 save for the OS

And 8gb of internal storage. The ROM capacity is a bit on the skinny side.


edit//Chimney: If you really think it wasn't, why the FUCK would the company do two things. Wipe the device (the device has no OS on it. The OS was intentionally wiped by Apple. It is in RECOVERY mode. AKA only the bootloader is left. And why would they go through the trouble of making a case that looks exactly like the other iPhones but with slight changes to accomodate the new changes? Here is a picture of it.


Posted by Chimney on Apr-20-2010 17:49:

Fuck. I hope you're wrong. If this is really the new iPhone, I'm dissapoint!


Posted by leph555 on Apr-20-2010 17:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Chimney
If this is really the new iPhone, I'm dissapoint!


why?


Posted by Chimney on Apr-20-2010 17:58:

quote:
Originally posted by leph555
why?


Because it could have looked like this:


Posted by leph555 on Apr-20-2010 18:11:

that home button would have been pressed accidentally every time you held the device in landscape. Also the battery would not be able to fit in such a thin body (looks thinner than the HD2) and have enough juice to power the large screen.

but if you still need the large screen get the hd2


Posted by gehzumteufel on Apr-20-2010 18:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Chimney
Fuck. I hope you're wrong. If this is really the new iPhone, I'm dissapoint!

Now you're coming around. I may be some dumb bloke on the internet, but I follow this stuff constantly. If it was a rumour I would state that. This instance there are WAY too many things that show it to be real.


Posted by Chimney on Apr-21-2010 06:30:

quote:
Originally posted by leph555
that home button would have been pressed accidentally every time you held the device in landscape. Also the battery would not be able to fit in such a thin body (looks thinner than the HD2) and have enough juice to power the large screen.

but if you still need the large screen get the hd2



Don't like it. A friend of mine has it, the OS and apps are whack. The screen and design on the other hand are nicer.

gehzumteufel - I'm still in denial.


Posted by Moongoose on Apr-21-2010 07:20:

quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
I said I am not a fan of the direction they have taken. I am done with WinMo in 2-3 months. Moving on to getting an Android phone. I don't like that native code and filesystem access is forbidden. It is just ridiculous. So I am over it. No need to complain when there are options.


Were not the only ones that are disappointed in the new direction. The company i sometimes freelance for that does business software development for our local market has already announced to the clients that at this time they (we) dont intend to support WP7. Support for the old WM6.x still continues though, as well for the symbian (nokia E series is big here), BB and android (though that one really needs a good slide out qwertz device to become competitive). Iphone was never supported since its market share in the business segment was zero.


Also i was thinking of swithing from my E71 to the HD2 in the next few months, ust because i find the fact that it can run a PSX emulator at full speed really appealing. But lately ive been texting so much that ive started wearing out the keys on my nokia and i dont know how that would work if i had to type on a virtual keyboard. When i was barely texting that wasnt a problem but now...it could pose a problem.


Posted by Fledz on Apr-21-2010 07:22:

Currently, Android and iPhone seem to be leading the pack and with good reason. I like both and would like both. I have neither. Fail


Posted by gehzumteufel on Apr-21-2010 15:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Moongoose
Were not the only ones that are disappointed in the new direction. The company i sometimes freelance for that does business software development for our local market has already announced to the clients that at this time they (we) dont intend to support WP7. Support for the old WM6.x still continues though, as well for the symbian (nokia E series is big here), BB and android (though that one really needs a good slide out qwertz device to become competitive). Iphone was never supported since its market share in the business segment was zero.


Also i was thinking of swithing from my E71 to the HD2 in the next few months, ust because i find the fact that it can run a PSX emulator at full speed really appealing. But lately ive been texting so much that ive started wearing out the keys on my nokia and i dont know how that would work if i had to type on a virtual keyboard. When i was barely texting that wasnt a problem but now...it could pose a problem.

The new virtual keyboards that they use are quite good, but from experience I can tell you it isn't the same as a hardware keyboard. I have thought about waiting till the business version of the Nexus One comes out, but I am sick of waiting. I am really done with WinMo.

Fledz: heh I don't like the iPhone for many reasons, but yeah, same. I haven't either. Soon though. Soon.


Posted by leph555 on Apr-22-2010 00:59:

Anyone seen the newly leaked Dell Android phones? They look fucking awesome


Posted by Fledz on Apr-22-2010 03:37:

Post pics and links!


Posted by bas on Apr-22-2010 03:45:

quote:
Originally posted by leph555
Anyone seen the newly leaked Dell Android phones? They look fucking awesome

I have. They're pretty badass.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/dell-mini-5-we-have-it/


Posted by MGT on Apr-22-2010 03:52:


http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2010/04/dell-thunder.html






http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/04/21/devices.labeled.lightning.thunder.smoke/


Posted by TazZ-erT on Apr-22-2010 04:13:

quote:
Originally posted by bas
I have. They're pretty badass.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/...i-5-we-have-it/

That is just wayyy too big to be a mobile phone... A phone has to fit nice in your pocket and be nice to hold and that thing looks huge!

I currently have a white 32gb 3Gs and will be upgrading to the newer one in the summer

Romoured to be the iPhone HD?


Posted by bas on Apr-22-2010 04:45:

quote:
Originally posted by TazZ-erT
That is just wayyy too big to be a mobile phone... A phone has to fit nice in your pocket and be nice to hold and that thing looks huge!

Yeah I agree. At least it's really thin! Can't really argue with a screen that size, that would be pretty sweet


Posted by TazZ-erT on Apr-22-2010 04:51:

Yeah but... You would need pretty big pockets to carry that thing around?

It would be enough to put me off anyway!


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