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Originally posted by Scottaculous i see you left out meth and heroine.

yeah ive tried meth a couple of times in Miami....just a few bumps at parties; and in the pothead alliance i talked about my love/hate/rehab with heroin

To the OP: a lack of self control.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J To the OP: a lack of self control.

while that may be true in some cases, it depends on what you're taking.

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Originally posted by ModernNosferatu and what's the root of the tree that cures Heroin addiction in like a week? Well, I have not done that one either, to lazy to goggle for it but saw a Documentary on Heroin addiction and remember it was a crazy drug that cures the dope sickness fast.

Iboga

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Originally posted by Lomeli Salvia is whack. Have fun.

I just hate the taste of it so bad. I smoked salvia once when I was shitfaced, pretty messed up. Had an outer body experience, I was a living thinking tooth in a mouth, and everyone else in the room was a tooth as well.. felt like I just found out I was in the matrix.

Gravity also shifted on me, left-right was up-down. Pretty fucked. I won't do it again.. it was interesting, but not really fun.

I believe in a long, prolonged derangement of the senses to attain the unknown. Our pale reasoning hides the infinite from us...

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J To the OP: a lack of self control.

Agreed... it's because they are weak-willed or weak-minded. I would imagine a bit of both.

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Originally posted by ModernNosferatu Acid is way more intense than shrooms atleast from my experiences. I once stepped on a plant and it broke the root and limbs and I heard the plant cry and my foot was snapping it's limbs

see i've heard this and i've heard the complete opposite too. i think it's just a matter of a lot of different factors coming together. one of my friends loves to shroom can't stand acid. another friend claims to be much more in control with acid and shrooming doesn't do it for him.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J To the OP: a lack of self control.

Perhaps a moment of weakness is what causes people to try one of the lifestyle drugs at first, but to reduce subsequent addiction to the same thing is grossly disingenuous - it's like saying people with diseases or illness just lack self-control because they cannot keep their bodies clean.

I cannot personally speak on any of the hard drugs myself, but have seen too many people near and far to me succumb to them. Everybody is weak in the face of the drug - nobody is strong, and getting over them is all too often a matter of luck and yes, sometimes determination. It is not a black and white thing in the least, despite what D.A.R.E. advocates would love for you to believe in lieu of budgets.

//I want to be clear though - I am not necessarily arguing with you at all. Addicts do lack self control, but what they need is support, empathy, candor - not condemnation, though I am not accusing you of such.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Addicts do lack self control, but what they need is support, empathy, candor - not condemnation, though I am not accusing you of such.

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*smiles vacantly*

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*starts sobbing before falling backwards and passing out on the sidewalk*

*tazes your carcass in a moment of right-wing fear*

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Perhaps a moment of weakness is what causes people to try one of the lifestyle drugs at first...

Exactly. From then on, it's an irrelevant distinction. Almost all self-destructive behaviour is due to a lack of self control. As far as I'm concerned, fuck enlightenment: utter self-control is the highest state of being.

*a primal whelp along with enuresis issue, along with a strong, sickly sweet stench of bowl wreaking of digested Coca-Cola, Peanut M&M's, and a combination of Ben & Jerry's ice-creams which allows the trained paramedic to rule out heroin withdrawal*

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Originally posted by bas

For some strange reason this really made me smile. New avatar me thinks.

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Originally posted by spanglo Agreed... it's because they are weak-willed or weak-minded. I would imagine a bit of both.

you sound weak-minded actually.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J As far as I'm concerned, fuck enlightenment: utter self-control is the highest state of being.

Especially to the point of repression!

*pop!*

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Originally posted by PivotTechno Especially to the point of repression! *pop!*

This guy had to repress a lot of things:

"We are all wired into a survival trip now. No more of the speed that fueled the 60's. That was the fatal flaw in Tim Leary's trip. He crashed around America selling "consciousness expansion" without ever giving a thought to the grim meat-hook realities that were lying in wait for all the people who took him seriously... All those pathetically eager acid freaks who thought they could buy Peace and Understanding for three bucks a hit. But their loss and failure is ours too. What Leary took down with him was the central illusion of a whole life-style that he helped create... a generation of permanent cripples, failed seekers, who never understood the essential old-mystic fallacy of the Acid Culture: the desperate assumption that somebody... or at least some force - is tending the light at the end of the tunnel. -Hunter S. Thompson Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On *tazes your carcass in a moment of right-wing fear*

Good! Good! Strike him down with all your hate...

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Originally posted by Lilith Good! Good! Strike him down with all your hate...

shit, even lilith is better at it than stu.

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Originally posted by Danny Ocean you sound weak-minded actually.

Really? People that I know with drug problems have little will power to speak of, and seemed to lack the ability to fully understand the consequences of their decisions - at least initially. You of all people should know this to be true.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN shit, even lilith is better at it than stu.

I mean she was closer, but it's so easy I don't really understand how anyone could get it wrong.

Pretty sure we're the only ones that have any idea what you're talking about

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