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Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on May-26-2010 22:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Kismet7
kinda how bigger boobs gets teh job done. 'chic' becomes a broader necessisty through media propaganda, as the thing to do with oneself.

not sure if you've heard of Aaron Russo, but he says the future goal of the powers that be is a chip installed in everyone's hand. interview is on youtube. who told him this? A Rockefeller. You're gonna love technology much more someday.


Aaron russo died a scared little boy, just like you will.


Posted by Lira on May-26-2010 22:58:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
Aaron russo died a scared little boy, just like you will.

Everyone knows the chips will makes us immortal

(and Aaron Russo isn't dead, he's just hiding from the government! I saw it on Youtubue �)


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on May-26-2010 22:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Kismet7
"teh conspiracy theories" that i've apparently mentioned in this thread. Like the Womens Liberation movement being orchestrated.

And why are you being selective in what you reply to, getting boring. Just go look into what i've already mentioned, like the Aaron Russo (filmmaker) 1 hour 35 min interview.


Kismet, never met a conspiracy theory he didn�t like.

You know nothing about feminism.


Posted by nefardec on May-27-2010 01:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue
it was meant to be a joke, dude. i knew i was going to get a response like that. next time i'll add a "lol" at the end



yes, that tends to help.. it really did not come off as a joke.


Posted by Kismet7 on May-27-2010 02:53:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
Aaron russo died a scared little boy, just like you will.


Russo died of cancer after a 6 year battle...perhaps a labratory developed form. one of the world's leading vacinnes developers of this century admitted to finding cancer/AIDS viruses within vacinnes. i'm guessing they gave Cancer to Russo because he did'nt comply with joining the 'war on terror' gang, and he knew the truth straight from the horses mouth about 9/11 and the whole 'war on terror' bullshit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvsXrVkjyz4

there you go pointless monkey. straight the mouth of the world's most important and decorated vaccine developer of this century, Dr. Maurice Hillerman offers you a middle finger.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on May-27-2010 03:03:

You�re right, who needs a medical journal & peer review when we have youtube! Thanks kismet, once again you�ve saved us from the bogeyman.


Posted by idoru on May-27-2010 03:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Kismet7
HEY GUYS, IF IT'S ON THE INTERNET, THEN IT'S TOTALLY TRUE!!


Posted by Lews on May-27-2010 03:08:

I like how if it comes from the government or from a peer reviewed journal it's clearly a lie, but if it comes in a video on youtube it's the absolute truth and only an idiot wouldn't believe it.


Posted by Kismet7 on May-27-2010 03:41:

weak + poor attempt and discrediting credibility. Are you guys grounded at all?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Hilleman


quote:

Maurice Ralph Hilleman (August 30, 1919 � April 11, 2005) was an American microbiologist who specialized in vaccinology and developed over three dozen vaccines, more than any other scientist. Of the fourteen vaccines routinely recommended in current vaccine schedules, he developed eight: those for measles, mumps, hepatitis A, hepatitis B, chickenpox, meningitis, pneumonia and Haemophilus influenzae bacteria.


Hilleman was an elected member of the US National Academy of Science, the Institute of Medicine, the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, and the American Philosophical Society. In 1988 President Ronald Reagan presented him with the National Medal of Science, the nation's highest scientific honor. He received the Prince Mahidol Award from the King of Thailand for the advancement of public health, as well as a special lifetime achievement award from the World Health Organization, the Albert Lasker Award for Clinical Medical Research and the Sabin Gold Medal and Lifetime Achievement Awards.

In March 2005 the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine's Department of Pediatrics and The Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, in collaboration with The Merck Company Foundation, announced the creation of The Maurice R. Hilleman Chair in Vaccinology.

Robert Gallo, co-discoverer of the virus that causes AIDS, once said "If I had to name a person who has done more for the benefit of human health, with less recognition than anyone else, it would be Maurice Hilleman. Maurice should be recognized as the most successful vaccinologist in history."[5]

After Hilleman's death Ralph Nader wrote, "Yet almost no one knew about him, saw him on television, or read about him in newspapers or magazines. His anonymity, in comparison with Madonna, Michael Jackson, Jose Canseco, or an assortment of grade B actors, tells something about our society's and media's concepts of celebrity; much less of the heroic."[9]

In 2007, Paul Offit published a biography of Hilleman, entitled Vaccinated: One Man's Quest to Defeat the World's Deadliest Diseases.[1]

On October 15, 2008, Merck named its Durham, North Carolina vaccine manufacturing facility in memory of Hilleman.[10]



TA's deceitful and truth distorting shill community fails yet again.


Posted by Lira on May-27-2010 03:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Kismet7
TA's deceitful and truth distorting shill community fails yet again.

All right, I'll stop the jokes and ask you something very seriously: how much education do you have? Did you go to any institution of higher education?


Posted by Lews on May-27-2010 03:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Kismet7
weak + poor attempt and discrediting credibility. Are you guys grounded at all?


How are they weak and poor attempts? The fact that you have no legitimate sources makes our arguments bad?


Posted by idoru on May-27-2010 03:51:

I still fail to see how anybody can cite footage from twenty years ago, which is completely unrelated to the subject at hand, as evidence for the poisoning of somebody in the last six years.

While we're at it, we might as well use a video of Lee Harvey Oswald hunting with his dad at the age of twelve as evidence that he fucking shot JFK.


Posted by Kismet7 on May-27-2010 03:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
All right, I'll stop the jokes and ask you something very seriously: how much education do you have? Did you go to any institution of higher education?


i'll stop you there and ask you did you actually learn anything meaningful towards this discussion in any part of life? what does institutional education have to do with the knowledge + info i'm sharing through research? you seem denser than any rock out there.
And why would anything i'm sharing here be taught in the highest of institutions anyways?


Posted by Kismet7 on May-27-2010 03:59:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
I still fail to see how anybody can cite footage from twenty years ago, which is completely unrelated to the subject at hand, as evidence for the poisoning of somebody in the last six years.

While we're at it, we might as well use a video of Lee Harvey Oswald hunting with his dad at the age of twelve as evidence that he fucking shot JFK.




you fail to see because you fail to see in general. which is problem you might want to sort out.


Posted by idoru on May-27-2010 04:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Kismet7


you fail to see because you fail to see. which is problem you might want to sort out.


Tell me how footage that is clearly from the eighties is hard evidence that somebody was poisoned in 2001. In addition, what other proof or evidence do you have to back up your claims other than that video?


Posted by Kismet7 on May-27-2010 04:07:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
Tell me how footage that is clearly from the eighties is hard evidence that somebody was poisoned in 2001.


what does the time difference have to do with the facts within. facts based on a talented microbiologists objective findings, one who has created more vaccines than anyone this century. lets ignore his findings and go with TA soulless shill think tank logics instead.


Posted by idoru on May-27-2010 04:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Kismet7
what does the time difference have to do with the facts within. facts based on a talented microbiologists objective findings, one who has created more vaccines than anyone this century. lets ignore his findings and go with TA shill think tank logic instead.


You genuinely believe that because that happened twenty years ago that it's empirical proof that Aaron Russo was poisoned in 2001? Jesus fucking Christ, that's just beyond the realm of idiocy. Fuck me running.

Edit: Lets top it off, here. If you have somebody that knows something "from the horses mouth" regarding some big conspiracy and you don't want them to spill the beans, are you going to slowly kill them with cancer or are you going to want them dead ASAP? Think about it for a second...


Posted by Lira on May-27-2010 04:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Kismet7
what does institutional education have to do with the knowledge + info i'm sharing through research?

Well, what do institutions of higher education do if not research? Whether or not it's research on the topic you're talking about, if you've been to a higher education institution you should be familiar with what exactly a research is about, and how it's done.

So far, you've shown us nothing of that, and this is why I'm asking. If you're really saying it all out of ignorance because you think you're going through some sort of careful reasoning/research and you've never been exposed to any sort of methodology, I'll stop mocking you right away. At first I thought you were misguided, but I'm afraid you're no laughing matter.


Posted by Kismet7 on May-27-2010 04:19:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
You genuinely believe that because that happened twenty years ago that it's empirical proof that Aaron Russo was poisoned in 2001? Jesus fucking Christ, that's just beyond the realm of idiocy. Fuck me running.


Given the circumstances, interests, nature of events, all things involved with what Russo knew, it is very reasonable for me to believe the convencience of him getting cancer or being killed in general.

You have to understand (mission impossible for you?), besides the Russo issue, Cancer as a disease is a business. Cancer...is...a...business. And if you are a healthcare providor, vaccine developer, medicine developer, highly paid scientist, the incentives are high and lucrative for Cancer to be a business. When it comes to business, especially multi billion dollar businesses, morality and ethics is set aside for the dollar. Where there is money to be made, money will be made. What do you guys pay attention to besides some of the often poor humor here?


Posted by idoru on May-27-2010 04:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Kismet7
What do you guys pay attention to besides some of the often poor humor here?


Common sense, logic, reasoning, etc. such as...

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
Edit: Lets top it off, here. If you have somebody that knows something "from the horses mouth" regarding some big conspiracy and you don't want them to spill the beans, are you going to slowly kill them with cancer or are you going to want them dead ASAP? Think about it for a second...


Posted by Kismet7 on May-27-2010 04:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Well, what do institutions of higher education do if not research? Whether or not it's research on the topic you're talking about, if you've been to a higher education institution you should be familiar with what exactly a research is about, and how it's done.

So far, you've shown us nothing of that, and this is why I'm asking. If you're really saying it all out of ignorance because you think you're going through some sort of careful reasoning/research and you've never been exposed to any sort of methodology, I'll stop mocking you right away. At first I thought you were misguided, but I'm afraid you're no laughing matter.


thanks for proving your degree is worthless in the discussion here. because obviously you've limited yourself to what you've been taught. I can imagine an 8th grader that thinks outside of the box could out research you and learn more meaningful things than you. Congrats on your institutional education.


Posted by idoru on May-27-2010 04:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Kismet7
thanks for proving your degree is worthless.


This comment alone makes me willing to bet that, at best, you went to community college. However, I'd feel most confident if I said that you had no formal education past high school. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong...


Posted by Lews on May-27-2010 04:23:

What's sad is that you don't even realize how deluded you are.


Posted by Lira on May-27-2010 04:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Kismet7
thanks for proving your degree is worthless in the discussion here. because obviously you've limited yourself to what you've been taught. I can imagine an 8th grader that thinks outside of the box could out research you and learn more meaningful things than you. Congrats on your institutional education.

Yeah, yeah, I limit myself to what I'm told and I'm a sheep who doesn't know when to say no

Well, I think this settles it. If you want to do something for the world, please try to learn something about research methodology and read more. Really, you've got no idea of how clueless you are right now.


Posted by idoru on May-27-2010 04:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Yeah, yeah, I limit myself to what I'm told and I'm a sheep who doesn't know when to say no

Well, I think this settles it. If you want to do something for the world, please try to learn something about research methodology and read more. Really, you've got no idea of how clueless you are right now.


No Lira, YOU don't have any idea of how clueless you are right now. Don't you see that higher education is just a way of dumbing down the masses into being willing to take the government's mind-control-laced vaccines!?


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