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Originally posted by ******** I didn't design a farturatur.. it is shit not farts. You'd have to wear a but plug for a farturator or just have environmental seals on structure ventalation systems and use scrubers like the ISS.

OMG! That seriously had me cracking up. I envisioned him getting rather defensive and saying this... especially farturator, seriously. Then I busted up laughing.

1. You couldn't do this because (and physicists please correct me/fix for accuracy) accelerating to the speed of light would cause the mirror's mass to become infinite. Thus there would not be enough energy in the universe to make it move at such speed.

2. Every single form of energy at some point turns into heat. So suppose you had this experiment set up somehow, the light energy would cause heating of the system in some way and thus would dissipate over time.

just because heat is being released doesn't necessarily mean that the heat would build indefinitely.

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Originally posted by gmilf just because heat is being released doesn't necessarily mean that the heat would build indefinitely.

The light would cause heat no matter what. Light converts to heat, the heat dissipates and the energy in the system fades.

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Originally posted by gmilf moving anything faster than the speed of light is impossible. But, removing that issue I am sadly not entirely sure. Wouldn't the photon's cancel each other out? I keep thinking about the slot experiment which demonstrates wave interference as major argument against this working, but thankfully the kid was only a second grader and I just had to pat him on the head and move on to the kid jamming things up his nose.

I might be easier to imagine two absolute reflective mirrors, one 'light minute' apart, that are perfectly parallel (and about to be opposite) to each other. If you fire a photon perpendicular to one mirror and then move the other mirror into place within one minute (as seen in the lol diagram), then providing there is no disturbance between the two reflective surfaces, you'll have 'endless reflecting light'.

But this of course, has absolutely no use at all (as far as I can tell).

If you add more photons, then you may get interference, yes, they may possibly appear as standing waves, but the waves themselves will still be propagating.

Kudos on remembering Youngs Two SLIT experiment, but that demonstrates properties of light that have no significant consequence on the theoretical situation we're discussing.

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Originally posted by Acton I might be easier to imagine two absolute reflective mirrors, one 'light minute' apart, that are perfectly parallel (and about to be opposite) to each other. If you fire a photon perpendicular to one mirror and then move the other mirror into place within one minute (as seen in the lol diagram), then providing there is no disturbance between the two reflective surfaces, you'll have 'endless reflecting light'. But this of course, has absolutely no use at all (as far as I can tell). If you add more photons, then you may get interference, yes, they may possibly appear as standing waves, but the waves themselves will still be propagating. Kudos on remembering Youngs Two SlIT experiment, but that demonstrates properties of light that have no consequence on the theoretical situation we're discussing.

Light won't last forever though as it will be converted to heat.

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Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7 Light won't last forever though as it will be converted to heat.

In the situation described, we are talking about two perfectly reflective surfaces, with no disturbances between them. This obviously isn't practically applicable, but if it was, then how would the light quanta transfer it's energy into heat?

if two mirrors resonate the light absolutely perfectly for long enough wouldn't most particles eventually interfere with one another? And, nobody is entirely sure if a photon will travel indefinitely even without gravitational interference.

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Originally posted by gmilf if two mirrors resonate the light absolutely perfectly for long enough wouldn't most particles eventually interfere with one another? And, nobody is entirely sure if a photon will travel indefinitely even without gravitational interference.

The two 'mirrors' wouldn't 'resonate' the waves of light, but if there were many light quanta being reflected, then yes, they probably would interfere, in which case I refer you to my previous post.

As for gravitational interference, it's already been proven that space-time curvature effects the trajectory of light waves. But by bringing this up, you're destroying one of the initial boundary conditions I set up, i.e. no disturbances between reflections. Anyway, we're sure light will travel the same speed in all frames of reference, irrespective of gravitational conditions.

I like you're thinking, though.

I just looked up what I was talking about, and I have been basing my argument that "tired light" is a valid argument. Which, even if it is it does not apply to this scenario without any forms of resistance.

agh, I was too slow at catching my own mistake

God would stop it.

Isn't the whole double mirror thing reliant on light which travels in one direction, such as from a laser? Ergo, it would be impossible to perceive the light, bouncing back and forth between two mirrors because 1) its path would be blocked by any apparatus which could see it, thus negating the effect and 2) because light, unless focused by a laser, travels in more than one direction and would quickly dissipate.













Unless the mirrors were of an infinite size, in which case the light would expand, indefinitely!!!

*Dun Dun DUUUNNNNN!!!!*

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Originally posted by gmilf God would stop it.

I love how every Physics discussion eventually turns to religion

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Originally posted by EddieZilker Isn't the whole double mirror thing reliant on light which travels in one direction, such as from a laser?

We're referring to light travelling perfectly perpendicular to the two 'mirrors' yes, If undisturbed, light travels in a single direction. Think about what light is, it's not one continuous form of energy, light is quantised and comes in 'packets'.

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Originally posted by EddieZilker Ergo, it would be impossible to perceive the light, bouncing back and forth between two mirrors because 1) its path would be blocked by any apparatus which could see it, thus negating the effect

Hence why previously I said this would 'have absolutely no use at all', as any measurement would simply destroy it.

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Originally posted by EddieZilker 2) because light, unless focused by a laser, travels in more than one direction and would quickly dissipate.

Again, light is quantised and unless 'disturbed' by something, will travel in a single direction. We're also discussing under the assumption that the light is travelling perfectly perpendicular to the mirrors. No need for any LASERs of any sort.

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Originally posted by Acton We're referring to light travelling perfectly perpendicular to the two 'mirrors' yes, If undisturbed, light travels in a single direction. Think about what light is, it's not one continuous form of energy, light is quantised and comes in 'packets'. Hence why previously I said this would 'have absolutely no use at all', as any measurement would simply destroy it. Again, light is quantised and unless 'disturbed' by something, will travel in a single direction. We're also discussing under the assumption that the light is travelling perfectly perpendicular to the mirrors. No need for any LASERs of any sort.

Quantum...quantum what?

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Originally posted by Acton We're referring to light travelling perfectly perpendicular to the two 'mirrors' yes, If undisturbed, light travels in a single direction. Think about what light is, it's not one continuous form of energy, light is quantised and comes in 'packets'. Hence why previously I said this would 'have absolutely no use at all', as any measurement would simply destroy it. Again, light is quantised and unless 'disturbed' by something, will travel in a single direction. We're also discussing under the assumption that the light is travelling perfectly perpendicular to the mirrors. No need for any LASERs of any sort.

Thanks! You've negated my infinite mirror premise and thus completely killed the music cue.






Keep your photons to yourself!

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Originally posted by Chimney Quantum...quantum what?

........

Why are quantum physicists so poor at sex?

Because when they find the position, they can't find the momentum, and when they have the momentum, they can't find the position.

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Originally posted by gmilf Because when they find the position, they can't find the momentum, and when they have the momentum, they can't find the position.

But that's only significant when you're talking about things on a small scale

When I talk about sex it's always on a small... scale

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Originally posted by Acton ........

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...12&pagenumber=2

Perfect lyrics for a perfect time.

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Originally posted by Acton The two 'mirrors' wouldn't 'resonate' the waves of light, but if there were many light quanta being reflected, then yes, they probably would interfere, in which case I refer you to my previous post. As for gravitational interference, it's already been proven that space-time curvature effects the trajectory of light waves. But by bringing this up, you're destroying one of the initial boundary conditions I set up, i.e. no disturbances between reflections. Anyway, we're sure light will travel the same speed in all frames of reference, irrespective of gravitational conditions. I like you're thinking, though.

I like how you're all Captain Sciencebrain until the last sentence when you botch up "your" and "you're". Nice one.

When light hits objects its energy is transferred to the electrons of the atoms it comes into contact with, which then produce the reflection. Surely something is lost here due to entropy, so the reflections would gradually become less and less energetic. Eventually all the energy would be absorbed by the reflectors.

This wouldn't work but would be kinda cool if it did: if you got a hollow sphere with mirrored walls, injected laser light into it, and then sealed it. Just walking around with a ball of trapped light muahahaha.

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